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Infinite Archive sets en merchant week of 19 december

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Sets from Cycle Bosses:
- Stormhaven
- The Deadlands

Filer Ool:
- Antiquity Leads:
- Lead: Asp-Leather Strap (for the Lefthander's Aegis Belt mythic in High Isle)
- Lead: Tattered Tapestry Scrap (for the Blackwood Tapestry in Blackwood)
- Collectibles
- Outfit Style Page: Lady Thorn Shoulder
- Containers:
- Archival Essay: Craglorn Treasure Map
- Companion Equipment (paars): Light Armor
- Furnishings:
- Funboar the Resurrected
- Tidefall Cantos I
- Trophies:
- Ceporah's Insight Clue (ToT card upgrade)
- Coral Haj Mota Decoy
- Maligraphic Ichor
  • msetten
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    Weren't the Deadlands sets already dropping a few weeks ago?
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    Lead: Asp-Leather Strap (for the Lefthander's Aegis Belt mythic in High Isle)
    - Lead: Tattered Tapestry Scrap (for the Blackwood Tapestry in Blackwood) High Isle)


    Asp-Leather Strap can be found by killing Lesser Sea Adders along the coast of Summerset

    Lefthander's Aegis Belt.
    (1 item) Roll Dodge no longer evades attack and instead grants a damage shield that absorbs up to 20990 damage over 1 second. This damage shield is unaffected by Battle Spirit.
    https://eso-hub.com/en/sets/lefthanders-aegis-belt


    Tattered Tapestry Scrap can be found on the ground in a static location. "East of the Leyawiin city, over the bridge and then to the right side, next to a skeleton and a backpack."

    Blackwood Tapestry is a collectible furnishing. This means you can put up 1 at each of your homes once you have all the fragments, similar to the undaunted busts or plus statuettes. It's a large tapestry of a map of Blackwood.

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    https://eso-hub.com/en/collectibles/blackwood-tapestry

    Edited by spartaxoxo on December 19, 2023 4:36PM
  • EF321
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    msetten wrote: »
    Weren't the Deadlands sets already dropping a few weeks ago?

    Actually, just this last week AND some weeks ago too :)
  • Necrotech_Master
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    only useful thing im gonna get is the monster style page lol

    i may pick up the lefthander lead if i still need codex entries for it, not like i have anything else to spend the archive fortunes on (and my count of those keeps growing, up to almost 320k now)
    plays PC/NA
    handle @Necrotech_Master
    active player since april 2014

    i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (in progress being filled out), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them

    feel free to stop by and use the facilities
  • msetten
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    EF321 wrote: »
    msetten wrote: »
    Weren't the Deadlands sets already dropping a few weeks ago?

    Actually, just this last week AND some weeks ago too :)

    I had hoped it was on a schedule, so that all zones come by over time. But it seems now that the zones are determined at random each week.
  • Number_51
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    EF321 wrote: »
    msetten wrote: »
    Weren't the Deadlands sets already dropping a few weeks ago?

    Actually, just this last week AND some weeks ago too :)

    This. In addition to the recent Deadlands event I have completed all three sets on 7 accounts now.
  • LunaFlora
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    thanksss for the post!

    i'm happy we can finally buy the Funboar the Resurrected book from Destunzo's quests, it's a nice book

    miaow! i'm Luna ( she/her ).

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  • Caligamy_ESO
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    only useful thing im gonna get is the monster style page lol

    i may pick up the lefthander lead if i still need codex entries for it, not like i have anything else to spend the archive fortunes on (and my count of those keeps growing, up to almost 320k now)

    Try the alchemy satchels. They quite frequently drop 5 dragon rheum or columbine at a time, sometimes 10 if you're lucky.
    love is love
  • Araneae6537
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    Thank you for posting this, @msetten !

    I wish we’d start getting more RNG gated leads instead of so many that can be found on the ground (especially since the Blackwood tapestry leads are, thankfully, no longer invisible)!

    Thank you for posting the lead info, @spartaxoxo !
  • Elvenheart
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    Thank you for this info, @msetten and @spartaxoxo, it really helps! 😊
  • Billium813
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    only useful thing im gonna get is the monster style page lol

    i may pick up the lefthander lead if i still need codex entries for it, not like i have anything else to spend the archive fortunes on (and my count of those keeps growing, up to almost 320k now)

    I'm right there with you. As much as everyone seems to dislike it, I really think several items need to be raised in price. It's really not hard to get Fortunes.
  • Necrotech_Master
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    only useful thing im gonna get is the monster style page lol

    i may pick up the lefthander lead if i still need codex entries for it, not like i have anything else to spend the archive fortunes on (and my count of those keeps growing, up to almost 320k now)

    I'm right there with you. As much as everyone seems to dislike it, I really think several items need to be raised in price. It's really not hard to get Fortunes.

    after taking another look at the merchant, i actually did still need some coral haj mota decoys for that part of the collectible

    and the public dungeon collectibles are also not bound, so can be re-sold after buying them with fortunes (same with treasure maps)

    in the case of the haj mota decoys the avg selling price on PC for those is like 35k and they only cost 4k fortunes, so could be a good fortune->gold conversion
    plays PC/NA
    handle @Necrotech_Master
    active player since april 2014

    i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (in progress being filled out), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them

    feel free to stop by and use the facilities
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    only useful thing im gonna get is the monster style page lol

    i may pick up the lefthander lead if i still need codex entries for it, not like i have anything else to spend the archive fortunes on (and my count of those keeps growing, up to almost 320k now)

    I'm right there with you. As much as everyone seems to dislike it, I really think several items need to be raised in price. It's really not hard to get Fortunes.

    For some, and congratulations. But for myself and I suspect many others who can’t yet get to higher arcs, it takes many hours.
  • LunaFlora
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    only useful thing im gonna get is the monster style page lol

    i may pick up the lefthander lead if i still need codex entries for it, not like i have anything else to spend the archive fortunes on (and my count of those keeps growing, up to almost 320k now)

    I'm right there with you. As much as everyone seems to dislike it, I really think several items need to be raised in price. It's really not hard to get Fortunes.

    the current prices are enough.

    your experience isn't universal.
    not everyone easily gets to arc 7 or whatever multiple times a day or week.

    arc 1 can be easy and gives about 1k fortunes, but that really depends on some bosses.
    grinding arc 1 and maybe also arc 2 for fortunes isn't super fun to do very often.

    people dislike the idea of prices being raised, because it's nonsensical.
    we know some people are super good at surviving the Archive and we know others aren't.
    we know some people have lots of time in the week to grind the Archive and others don't.

    we only get 3 threads, 4 with the upgrade or 5 with the vision.
    we can't take a break and come back to continue later unless the break is only ~15 minutes.
    and some bosses like the marauders, especially Gothmau, and Rakkhat are needlessly hard.

    i can get maybe 20-30k fortunes a week, not every week the same though.
    enough to buy what i want from Ool usually and to slowly get the upgrades, but not enough to somehow believe the prices are too low.
    Edited by LunaFlora on December 20, 2023 4:47PM
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  • Billium813
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    only useful thing im gonna get is the monster style page lol

    i may pick up the lefthander lead if i still need codex entries for it, not like i have anything else to spend the archive fortunes on (and my count of those keeps growing, up to almost 320k now)

    I'm right there with you. As much as everyone seems to dislike it, I really think several items need to be raised in price. It's really not hard to get Fortunes.

    For some, and congratulations. But for myself and I suspect many others who can’t yet get to higher arcs, it takes many hours.

    define "higher arcs". If you can get to Arc 3, which is equivalent to a Base game Vet Dungeon in difficulty and shouldn't take more then 1 hour to complete, then you get 10k Fortunes. I understand everyone has a perspective, but players that think Base game Vet Dungeons are difficult should be considered in the minority.
  • Billium813
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    LunaFlora wrote: »
    Billium813 wrote: »
    only useful thing im gonna get is the monster style page lol

    i may pick up the lefthander lead if i still need codex entries for it, not like i have anything else to spend the archive fortunes on (and my count of those keeps growing, up to almost 320k now)

    I'm right there with you. As much as everyone seems to dislike it, I really think several items need to be raised in price. It's really not hard to get Fortunes.

    the current prices are enough.

    your experience isn't universal.
    not everyone easily gets to arc 7 or whatever multiple times a day or week.

    arc 1 can be easy and gives about 1k fortunes, but that really depends on some bosses.
    grinding arc 1 and maybe also arc 2 for fortunes isn't super fun to do very often.

    Neither is your experience.

    Grinding Arc 1 is en exercise in monotony and we can agree it isn't fun. But the bosses are not difficult even in the slightest. You're really exaggerating here. Also, to be clear, you get ~2.5k Fortunes (including the daily reward), not 1k Fortunes.
  • Necrotech_Master
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    @Billium813 while i am sitting on excess fortunes, that also does not mean i want cost increaases lol

    i like having the excess in case something i want does come up

    and just because i can make 60k fortunes getting to arc 8, doesnt mean i always have time to do that because thats usually a minimum of a 5 hour run
    plays PC/NA
    handle @Necrotech_Master
    active player since april 2014

    i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (in progress being filled out), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them

    feel free to stop by and use the facilities
  • Billium813
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    I think the big question I have here for players that are claiming to struggle to get Fortunes, are you talking about Solo only runs?

    I really think that solo needs increased Fortune rewards. I suspect many of you that are struggling are talking specifically about solo running, and to that I can kind of see where you're coming from. Solo is harder for sure and the rewards should be upped to compensate.

    But for co-op, its really not hard to get Arc 5+ with a dedicated Tank.
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    I think the big question I have here for players that are claiming to struggle to get Fortunes, are you talking about Solo only runs?

    I really think that solo needs increased Fortune rewards. I suspect many of you that are struggling are talking specifically about solo running, and to that I can kind of see where you're coming from. Solo is harder for sure and the rewards should be upped to compensate.

    But for co-op, its really not hard to get Arc 5+ with a dedicated Tank.

    nope solo and co-op.
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    🌸*throws cherry blossom on you*🌸
    "Eagles advance, traveler! And may the Green watch and keep you."
    🦬🦌🐰
    PlayStation and PC EU.
    LunaLolaBlossom on psn.
    LunaFloraBlossom on pc.
  • LunaFlora
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    LunaFlora wrote: »
    Billium813 wrote: »
    only useful thing im gonna get is the monster style page lol

    i may pick up the lefthander lead if i still need codex entries for it, not like i have anything else to spend the archive fortunes on (and my count of those keeps growing, up to almost 320k now)

    I'm right there with you. As much as everyone seems to dislike it, I really think several items need to be raised in price. It's really not hard to get Fortunes.

    the current prices are enough.

    your experience isn't universal.
    not everyone easily gets to arc 7 or whatever multiple times a day or week.

    arc 1 can be easy and gives about 1k fortunes, but that really depends on some bosses.
    grinding arc 1 and maybe also arc 2 for fortunes isn't super fun to do very often.

    Neither is your experience.

    Grinding Arc 1 is en exercise in monotony and we can agree it isn't fun. But the bosses are not difficult even in the slightest. You're really exaggerating here. Also, to be clear, you get ~2.5k Fortunes (including the daily reward), not 1k Fortunes.

    im not exaggerating.
    220 per boss equals 1100 fortunes. 550 from the daily or 110 if it's a secondary character that'd be 1650/1210.
    if i get an unknown portal and the pilferer that would be 2090. but those aren't guaranteed.

    i can get more if i get the pilferer and portals to the unknown, but 2,5k is not what i get from arc 1 every time.

    and yea i know my experience isn't universal either,
    but it seems to me like you don't know that yours isn't because you believe the prices are too low.
    miaow! i'm Luna ( she/her ).

    🌸*throws cherry blossom on you*🌸
    "Eagles advance, traveler! And may the Green watch and keep you."
    🦬🦌🐰
    PlayStation and PC EU.
    LunaLolaBlossom on psn.
    LunaFloraBlossom on pc.
  • katanagirl1
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    I think the big question I have here for players that are claiming to struggle to get Fortunes, are you talking about Solo only runs?

    I really think that solo needs increased Fortune rewards. I suspect many of you that are struggling are talking specifically about solo running, and to that I can kind of see where you're coming from. Solo is harder for sure and the rewards should be upped to compensate.

    But for co-op, its really not hard to get Arc 5+ with a dedicated Tank.

    With companion, so it is not solo as far as the game is concerned. I don’t have a friend that can run with me when I plan to do it so that is not possible.

    So increasing solo rewards would not help.
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  • Billium813
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    LunaFlora wrote: »
    Billium813 wrote: »
    LunaFlora wrote: »
    Billium813 wrote: »
    only useful thing im gonna get is the monster style page lol

    i may pick up the lefthander lead if i still need codex entries for it, not like i have anything else to spend the archive fortunes on (and my count of those keeps growing, up to almost 320k now)

    I'm right there with you. As much as everyone seems to dislike it, I really think several items need to be raised in price. It's really not hard to get Fortunes.

    the current prices are enough.

    your experience isn't universal.
    not everyone easily gets to arc 7 or whatever multiple times a day or week.

    arc 1 can be easy and gives about 1k fortunes, but that really depends on some bosses.
    grinding arc 1 and maybe also arc 2 for fortunes isn't super fun to do very often.

    Neither is your experience.

    Grinding Arc 1 is en exercise in monotony and we can agree it isn't fun. But the bosses are not difficult even in the slightest. You're really exaggerating here. Also, to be clear, you get ~2.5k Fortunes (including the daily reward), not 1k Fortunes.

    im not exaggerating.
    220 per boss equals 1100 fortunes. 550 from the daily or 110 if it's a secondary character that'd be 1650/1210.
    if i get an unknown portal and the pilferer that would be 2090. but those aren't guaranteed.

    i can get more if i get the pilferer and portals to the unknown, but 2,5k is not what i get from arc 1 every time.

    and yea i know my experience isn't universal either,
    but it seems to me like you don't know that yours isn't because you believe the prices are too low.

    And you believe the prices are just fine because you claim to struggle to get 20k Fortunes in a week since you can't seem to get to Arc 3 in co-op. A concept I just can't fathom and most certainly can't be the majority. There must be some other issue here and cheapening the price is compensating for something else.

    yes, I understand no one wants to accept that prices should be increased. Even players with 500k Fortunes seem to just be fine with it. They seem to be fine with having 1000 Undaunted Keys and nothing to spend them on too, for some reason. That doesn't mean something doesn't need to be done to balance things out. I mean, they literally sell 5000 gold for 4000 Fortunes. You think these style pages are worth 20k gold (yes, I know these pages are bound)? At least the Golden Vendor charges 100k gold and that's just for sticker book items you still need to transmute.
    Edited by Billium813 on December 20, 2023 6:06PM
  • Billium813
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    I think the big question I have here for players that are claiming to struggle to get Fortunes, are you talking about Solo only runs?

    I really think that solo needs increased Fortune rewards. I suspect many of you that are struggling are talking specifically about solo running, and to that I can kind of see where you're coming from. Solo is harder for sure and the rewards should be upped to compensate.

    But for co-op, its really not hard to get Arc 5+ with a dedicated Tank.

    With companion, so it is not solo as far as the game is concerned. I don’t have a friend that can run with me when I plan to do it so that is not possible.

    So increasing solo rewards would not help.

    Well, that's basically solo imo. Companions are fairly useless with dumb AIs. Granted they help some, but I would be ok with something like:

    solo -> 2x modifier
    co-op -> 1.5x modifier

    ,or even just both 2x modifier. Granted I haven't done much with companions in EA, but how does Isobel fair against a marauder?

    > I don’t have a friend that can run with me

    I'd love to group up with you and take you through some Arcs! Feel free to reach out in game. Otherwise, the new Group Finder tool works really well to get players together for content! I recommend making a listing and getting with another player! Lots of players would just do a daily (Arc 1) so it should be quick.
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    Billium813 wrote: »
    I think the big question I have here for players that are claiming to struggle to get Fortunes, are you talking about Solo only runs?

    I really think that solo needs increased Fortune rewards. I suspect many of you that are struggling are talking specifically about solo running, and to that I can kind of see where you're coming from. Solo is harder for sure and the rewards should be upped to compensate.

    But for co-op, its really not hard to get Arc 5+ with a dedicated Tank.

    With companion, so it is not solo as far as the game is concerned. I don’t have a friend that can run with me when I plan to do it so that is not possible.

    So increasing solo rewards would not help.

    Well, that's basically solo imo. Companions are fairly useless with dumb AIs. Granted they help some, but I would be ok with something like:

    solo -> 2x modifier
    co-op -> 1.5x modifier

    ,or even just both 2x modifier. Granted I haven't done much with companions in EA, but how does Isobel fair against a marauder?

    > I don’t have a friend that can run with me

    I'd love to group up with you and take you through some Arcs! Feel free to reach out in game. Otherwise, the new Group Finder tool works really well to get players together for content! I recommend making a listing and getting with another player! Lots of players would just do a daily (Arc 1) so it should be quick.

    Thanks for the offer, but you are probably on PC and I’m on PS.

    Besides, I want to loot the urns as I go through so I don’t want a speedrun. Also, I do the archive I between other activities so I don’t plan ahead, I prefer to run whenever is good for me and I might even take some breaks.
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    Breton Magsorc PVP
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  • Necrotech_Master
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    LunaFlora wrote: »
    Billium813 wrote: »
    LunaFlora wrote: »
    Billium813 wrote: »
    only useful thing im gonna get is the monster style page lol

    i may pick up the lefthander lead if i still need codex entries for it, not like i have anything else to spend the archive fortunes on (and my count of those keeps growing, up to almost 320k now)

    I'm right there with you. As much as everyone seems to dislike it, I really think several items need to be raised in price. It's really not hard to get Fortunes.

    the current prices are enough.

    your experience isn't universal.
    not everyone easily gets to arc 7 or whatever multiple times a day or week.

    arc 1 can be easy and gives about 1k fortunes, but that really depends on some bosses.
    grinding arc 1 and maybe also arc 2 for fortunes isn't super fun to do very often.

    Neither is your experience.

    Grinding Arc 1 is en exercise in monotony and we can agree it isn't fun. But the bosses are not difficult even in the slightest. You're really exaggerating here. Also, to be clear, you get ~2.5k Fortunes (including the daily reward), not 1k Fortunes.

    im not exaggerating.
    220 per boss equals 1100 fortunes. 550 from the daily or 110 if it's a secondary character that'd be 1650/1210.
    if i get an unknown portal and the pilferer that would be 2090. but those aren't guaranteed.

    i can get more if i get the pilferer and portals to the unknown, but 2,5k is not what i get from arc 1 every time.

    and yea i know my experience isn't universal either,
    but it seems to me like you don't know that yours isn't because you believe the prices are too low.

    And you believe the prices are just fine because you claim to struggle to get 20k Fortunes in a week since you can't seem to get to Arc 3 in co-op. A concept I just can't fathom and most certainly can't be the majority. There must be some other issue here and cheapening the price is compensating for something else.

    yes, I understand no one wants to accept that prices should be increased. Even players with 500k Fortunes seem to just be fine with it. They seem to be fine with having 1000 Undaunted Keys and nothing to spend them on too, for some reason. That doesn't mean something doesn't need to be done to balance things out. I mean, they literally sell 5000 gold for 4000 Fortunes. You think these style pages are worth 20k gold (yes, I know these pages are bound)? At least the Golden Vendor charges 100k gold and that's just for sticker book items you still need to transmute.

    imagine if you will they did increase the prices by even 10x, that would be 150,000 fortunes per style page

    now imagine you have to also get that every week, that would be a minimum of like 2 arc 8 runs + 1 arc 4 run you would have to do every week to be able to afford that style page

    i have no gear or collectibles left to collect, so i do it because i like the content, but as soon as a run becomes a slog (due to bad vision/verse options), or it gets too late then i stop

    there are some weeks i dont earn a lot of currency because i do only a couple arc 4 runs and thats it, other weeks i make 100k currency because i do a couple long runs

    but i dont want to feel obligated to earn 150k per week minimum just to buy style pages im missing

    its the same reason i dont buy the style pages from the undaunted vendor, they are too freaking expensive for the amount of work your putting in, 50 keys is 10 characters doing 5 keys worth of pledges, thats huge, not everyone does that, or can do that (if they do normals its only 3 keys per character, if they skip dlcs, 2 per character)
    plays PC/NA
    handle @Necrotech_Master
    active player since april 2014

    i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (in progress being filled out), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them

    feel free to stop by and use the facilities
  • Billium813
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    LunaFlora wrote: »
    Billium813 wrote: »
    LunaFlora wrote: »
    Billium813 wrote: »
    only useful thing im gonna get is the monster style page lol

    i may pick up the lefthander lead if i still need codex entries for it, not like i have anything else to spend the archive fortunes on (and my count of those keeps growing, up to almost 320k now)

    I'm right there with you. As much as everyone seems to dislike it, I really think several items need to be raised in price. It's really not hard to get Fortunes.

    the current prices are enough.

    your experience isn't universal.
    not everyone easily gets to arc 7 or whatever multiple times a day or week.

    arc 1 can be easy and gives about 1k fortunes, but that really depends on some bosses.
    grinding arc 1 and maybe also arc 2 for fortunes isn't super fun to do very often.

    Neither is your experience.

    Grinding Arc 1 is en exercise in monotony and we can agree it isn't fun. But the bosses are not difficult even in the slightest. You're really exaggerating here. Also, to be clear, you get ~2.5k Fortunes (including the daily reward), not 1k Fortunes.

    im not exaggerating.
    220 per boss equals 1100 fortunes. 550 from the daily or 110 if it's a secondary character that'd be 1650/1210.
    if i get an unknown portal and the pilferer that would be 2090. but those aren't guaranteed.

    i can get more if i get the pilferer and portals to the unknown, but 2,5k is not what i get from arc 1 every time.

    and yea i know my experience isn't universal either,
    but it seems to me like you don't know that yours isn't because you believe the prices are too low.

    (220 x 4) + (440) = 1320. That's 4 Cycles and Tho’ at Replicanum gives double.

    Also, I don't think I've seen any Arc that didn't have 2 Unknown Portals and at least 1 Gw the Pilferer, which give the same as a Cycle boss. Some are easier then others, sure.
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    Billium813 wrote: »
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    only useful thing im gonna get is the monster style page lol

    i may pick up the lefthander lead if i still need codex entries for it, not like i have anything else to spend the archive fortunes on (and my count of those keeps growing, up to almost 320k now)

    I'm right there with you. As much as everyone seems to dislike it, I really think several items need to be raised in price. It's really not hard to get Fortunes.

    For some, and congratulations. But for myself and I suspect many others who can’t yet get to higher arcs, it takes many hours.

    define "higher arcs". If you can get to Arc 3, which is equivalent to a Base game Vet Dungeon in difficulty and shouldn't take more then 1 hour to complete, then you get 10k Fortunes. I understand everyone has a perspective, but players that think Base game Vet Dungeons are difficult should be considered in the minority.

    On what basis should be they be considered the minority? I very much expect that fortune prices are determined by what the majority of players can do. The majority most certainly aren't leaderboaring. We know that because the whole point is to highlight the best of the best. Leaderboarding is arc 4 solo or arc 7 duo on my server on the low end.
    Edited by spartaxoxo on December 20, 2023 6:37PM
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    Hopefully ZOS won’t agree to this increase, it is gatekeeping on a massive scale.

    I don’t want to be forced to do speed runs with another player multiple times per week just to get a few things I want from the vendors.

    I am retired so I do have a lot of time to play, but I run trials, PvP in Cyrodiil, and do crafting on multiple toons, in addition to being limited on how long I can do high APM content. I have to pick and choose each day.
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    LunaFlora wrote: »
    Billium813 wrote: »
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    only useful thing im gonna get is the monster style page lol

    i may pick up the lefthander lead if i still need codex entries for it, not like i have anything else to spend the archive fortunes on (and my count of those keeps growing, up to almost 320k now)

    I'm right there with you. As much as everyone seems to dislike it, I really think several items need to be raised in price. It's really not hard to get Fortunes.

    the current prices are enough.

    your experience isn't universal.
    not everyone easily gets to arc 7 or whatever multiple times a day or week.

    arc 1 can be easy and gives about 1k fortunes, but that really depends on some bosses.
    grinding arc 1 and maybe also arc 2 for fortunes isn't super fun to do very often.

    Neither is your experience.

    Grinding Arc 1 is en exercise in monotony and we can agree it isn't fun. But the bosses are not difficult even in the slightest. You're really exaggerating here. Also, to be clear, you get ~2.5k Fortunes (including the daily reward), not 1k Fortunes.

    im not exaggerating.
    220 per boss equals 1100 fortunes. 550 from the daily or 110 if it's a secondary character that'd be 1650/1210.
    if i get an unknown portal and the pilferer that would be 2090. but those aren't guaranteed.

    i can get more if i get the pilferer and portals to the unknown, but 2,5k is not what i get from arc 1 every time.

    and yea i know my experience isn't universal either,
    but it seems to me like you don't know that yours isn't because you believe the prices are too low.

    And you believe the prices are just fine because you claim to struggle to get 20k Fortunes in a week since you can't seem to get to Arc 3 in co-op. A concept I just can't fathom and most certainly can't be the majority. There must be some other issue here and cheapening the price is compensating for something else.

    yes, I understand no one wants to accept that prices should be increased. Even players with 500k Fortunes seem to just be fine with it. They seem to be fine with having 1000 Undaunted Keys and nothing to spend them on too, for some reason. That doesn't mean something doesn't need to be done to balance things out. I mean, they literally sell 5000 gold for 4000 Fortunes. You think these style pages are worth 20k gold (yes, I know these pages are bound)? At least the Golden Vendor charges 100k gold and that's just for sticker book items you still need to transmute.

    imagine if you will they did increase the prices by even 10x, that would be 150,000 fortunes per style page

    now imagine you have to also get that every week, that would be a minimum of like 2 arc 8 runs + 1 arc 4 run you would have to do every week to be able to afford that style page

    i have no gear or collectibles left to collect, so i do it because i like the content, but as soon as a run becomes a slog (due to bad vision/verse options), or it gets too late then i stop

    there are some weeks i dont earn a lot of currency because i do only a couple arc 4 runs and thats it, other weeks i make 100k currency because i do a couple long runs

    but i dont want to feel obligated to earn 150k per week minimum just to buy style pages im missing

    its the same reason i dont buy the style pages from the undaunted vendor, they are too freaking expensive for the amount of work your putting in, 50 keys is 10 characters doing 5 keys worth of pledges, thats huge, not everyone does that, or can do that (if they do normals its only 3 keys per character, if they skip dlcs, 2 per character)

    perhaps you didnt see my comment in the previous thread: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8010828/#Comment_8010828

    I do agree that 150k is way too much. If you picked 150k from my previous comments, I had thrown that number out before I started really crunching the numbers. I think 50k fortunes is much more reasonable and would match the rate of Undaunted Keys. I think Mask pages should cost more fortunes then Shoulder pages... but that could be open to debate.
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    Billium813 wrote: »
    only useful thing im gonna get is the monster style page lol

    i may pick up the lefthander lead if i still need codex entries for it, not like i have anything else to spend the archive fortunes on (and my count of those keeps growing, up to almost 320k now)

    I'm right there with you. As much as everyone seems to dislike it, I really think several items need to be raised in price. It's really not hard to get Fortunes.

    For some, and congratulations. But for myself and I suspect many others who can’t yet get to higher arcs, it takes many hours.

    define "higher arcs". If you can get to Arc 3, which is equivalent to a Base game Vet Dungeon in difficulty and shouldn't take more then 1 hour to complete, then you get 10k Fortunes. I understand everyone has a perspective, but players that think Base game Vet Dungeons are difficult should be considered in the minority.

    I have yet to get past Tho’at at the end of arc 3 (the sky shard aoe gets me and I’m often down to one thread by the time I get that far even). I can get through the first two arcs in a reasonable time on a higher DPS character, but am very vulnerable to getting overwhelmed by mobs if there are several tough enemies (multiple infusers, get stunned, etc.) I am working on tankier builds but sometimes those take so bloody long just to get through the first arc (I had the longest fight ever against The Sepent the other day, ugh) that I don’t continue. So, yes, I’m not very good, but I’m doing better than when I started and working to improve my builds and strategy.

    Considering all the players who have asked for nerfs to arc 1, which I agree is easy, I would say that I might represent something close to the median player, which would mean that the Archive merchants’ items aren’t underpriced at all.
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