My Favorite Potions and Ingredients for my Templar Tank + DPS

ElderSmitter

Hi, everyone. Just wanted to share my Potions and a few tips i use the most for Tanking and DPS.

I am a Stamina Based Tank which I Love with a Decent Magicka Recovery Return.

Now the MOST IMPORTANT think about my Build and something Many Tanks Should Try for Excessive Resource Restore is at Least using 1 Piece of Jewelry with a Harmony trait. The Free Tri Stat resources you get back are enormous. The more Harmony the More Resources just by using someone's synergy. I use 1 Harmony as it is plenty for my build. My #1 potion is Essence of Health It gives you Health + Stamina + Lingering Health restoring 1096 per second for 16 Seconds. I also use Alchemical Acceleration Enchantment reducing Cooldown by 8 seconds. My main healing ability is Restoring Focus Gaining 4k+++ Health (before it Crits) per second for 20 Seconds Plus 242 Stamina back per second plus 10% Damage Mitigation Plus Minor Mending (8% Healing taken boost) and Major Resolve all for the whopping cost of 564 stamina to use. It is by Far one of my Favorite Abilities in the game for Templar Tank not even close.

To make my Potion Essence of Health i use Tears + Dragon Blood, Butterfly Wing and Mountain Flower. So, it is Expensive because of Dragon Blood vs Columbine Tri Stat Potions, but you can Load up each year on Cheap Dragon Blood during the Elsweyr Event.

When everything is going the Health Return on your Tank while in your Restoring Focus can be 8k+ Per Second and easily 10k+ Per Second while hitting synergies and Activating Living Dark. So if you're a Templar Tank looking for ways to Better Sustain, I hope this helps as I can clear all content this way. Also, the Benefit of a Stamina Tank just a few Heavy Attacks your also restoring tons of Stamina.

As for my DPS quite Simple. Tri Stat Potions. ZOS gives us Free ones each Month and there are many ways to accumulate columbine. Hit Dirks Supply Chest Everday for Free Columbine, Dragon Blood and Dragon Rheum to start. Alchemy Surveys obviously and also Using Telvar which we also get free from ZOS for Buying Satchels plus you can now buy Satchels in EA as well. I really have not had to buy Columbine for a while and Dragon Blood 4-1 to Dragon Rheum so when you get it from the Supply Chest sell the rheum for Dragon Blood if you choose to do so.

Now when I am Running some really High Trial Content i do run Essense of Magicka on my DPS which is very expensive but does give you Stamina, Magicka and Minor Heroism. To make these Potions you use Tears with Dragon Blood, Dragon Rheum and Columbine, so if your Loaded with Gold they are lots of Fun if your Strapped for Gold you can use a cheaper version if you are Stamina Based buy going with Dragon Bile (Very Cheap) Mountain Flower or Blessed Thistle (Also Cheap) with Dragon Blood. It will give you Minor Heroism and Stamina

Lastly for EXTREME Health Situations where Resources are not an issue, and you just want as Much health as possible coming in. You can make a Super Major Vitality Potion for Your Tank or DPS depending on what you're doing.

Use Tears with Butterfly Wing - Powdered Mother of Pearl and Mountain Flower.

You will get Restore Health of almost 10k health immediately. Plus 1096 Health Per Second for 16.7 Seconds. Plus MAJOR Vitality returning an additional 16% Health. Now do not forget while you're using Restoring Focus you are also getting an Additional 8% Healing Taken from Major Mending. So, you are Boosting any Heal coming in by 24% Before any other Buffs you have for Increase Health by CP or Healing Taken Armor Lines etc etc. On Top of using Alchemical Acceleration to reduce your Cool Down by 8 seconds! When your Heals coming in Crit they go even higher.

So, If you're a Templar looking for ways to Survive in Harder Content while allowing your Healers to Focus solely on the DPS I hope this helps! Try them all out. I carry them all and use them all in different situations. Just slot them on your wheel so you can quickly switch for any situation.

Cheers!

TheDarkRuler

Finally another Harmony enjoyer
I feel that this trait is severely underrated.

Tyrant_Tim

Glad you’re enjoying Templar, and tank specifically, but what I didn’t see once within the thread was recognition that Sun Shield, an almost useless ability you’re pigeonholed into has completely lost it’s animation as of Update 40.

Being a Templar tank is already a ride against the current as it is hands down the least supportive class you can tank on, coming from someone that started and mastered the class/role combination early on.

Every other class for tanking has its niche, Dragonknight, Necromancer, and Arcanist absolute kill it in trials, Sorcerer and Nightblade are phenomenal for speed running dungeons, and Warden is the best arena pick.

Templar tanks heal? I can’t recall a time where low spell damage off-heals were necessary, or an improvement over anything else.

At the end of the day you can play whatever you want, it is a game after all, but I can’t in good faith recommend to anyone that they should play a Templar tank within the state it currently resides when comparing it to any other options.

ElderSmitter

This was not a thread about anything you have brought up. But i will comment and say your completely wrong and a Templar Tank is one of the best Tanks out there. I have run plenty of videos and can get much more in depth on another thread, but I wanted to share my thread mostly about Potions and what i use on a Templar Tank. I appreciate your opinions but strongly disagree. Most Just do not know how to build around a Templar Tank. Be well. Cheers!

Tyrant_Tim

Maybe I mistook your OP’s goal, but wasn’t it to bring light to specific potions that make a class/role better, a specific class/role that isn’t best at anything tanking related, and is even lacking a proper tank skill line?

Instead of encouraging it’s play, be honest and tell people what it’s really like…

You won’t have an AoE root, you won’t have a unique penetration debuff, you won’t have a reliable burst heal, and you certainly won’t provide any unique buffs to the group outside of Minor Sorcery, a passive that does NOT stack with Minor Brutality which is found on the most commonly played class in the game.

In this game’s PvE, it’s a damage race, and Templar provides nothing unique to that effect.

So props for finding potions that work for you. but I can’t help but feel that if you were playing the class, you would have noticed the Sun Shield problem and I’m not saying that as a form of ridicule, but to further hammer home the point that people play Templar tank right now to roleplay a Paladin, or to be unique… not because it’s more efficient.

Tyrant_Tim

Now; I’ll leave you with this.

If Templars were top tanks or damage dealers, why are they essentially non-existent on the Endless Archive Duos category?

That’s the most recent example I can give, but you can take a look at any other leaderboards except for Asylum and you’ll see Templar has a horrible pick ratio, maybe even there too for your platform, and it’s not because players are missing the secret recipe. There isn’t one.

Certain options are flat out better than others, so if you have an interest of Templar in mind, shed a light on it’s deficiencies and pray that they get addressed, that’s the best thing you can do for your class.

Kite42

I wish a templar skill provided major courage. That's my 'power fantasy' for a paladin like class.

ZOS_Icy

Greetings,

After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic.

Thank you for your understanding.

Billium813

Great to hear you are enjoying Templar Tank! I also love my Templar Tank

ElderSmitter wrote: »

... using 1 Piece of Jewelry with a Harmony trait. The Free Tri Stat resources you get back are enormous. The more Harmony the More Resources just by using someone's synergy. I use 1 Harmony as it is plenty for my build.

Very interesting suggestion to use Harmony! I can definitely see the positives with the myriad synergies out there. I just use Prismatic Recovery atm, but I think I'll go ahead and give Harmony a try (especially now that Chromium Plating is palatable). I think it gets better in more organized groups though. I primarily run PUG groups, so it can be hit/miss if anyone uses any synergies... but the return seems worth a try.

ElderSmitter wrote: »

I am a Stamina Based Tank which I Love with a Decent Magicka Recovery Return ... My #1 potion is Essence of Health It gives you Health + Stamina + Lingering Health restoring 1096 per second for 16 Seconds.

In my experience, I find one of the biggest pain points of Templar is the Magicka sustain, and one of the benefits would be all of the self heals. Interesting that you dropped the Magicka Restore and Major Intellect from your potion for just more Health Recovery. I'm guessing that Harmony is giving you amazing returns then to make up the difference, but I still think Tri-Pots would just be overall better. Cool that you're playing around with it though!

As a stam Tank, I would be interested in seeing your Skill bars. I assume you are running Living Dark, Radiant Ward, and Extended Ritual at least. With Blockade of Frost as well, it costs me ~15k Magicka! If the fight is mobile, or debuff heavy, I have to recast Extended Ritual and Blockade of Frost multiple times before the duration is over. In tough spots, I tend to spam Radiant Ward over and over. It ends up costing a lot and Mag sustain becomes difficult; especially if I accidentally block with staff. Spell Symmetry can help, but it has its downside... I usually rely on Ice Staff HAs. It recently got a shield increase, so it helps if you can time it.

Overall, I really enjoy Templar Tanking. It isn't the 'min/max'-iest Tank class for a variety of reasons, but it can get the job done most of the time and I enjoy the Templar aesthetic.





... also, Are You an AI? or did You feed Your Post through a Translation Program? It Feels Generated, or is it Just Me?

ElderSmitter

Billium813 wrote: »

Great to hear you are enjoying Templar Tank! I also love my Templar Tank

ElderSmitter wrote: »

... using 1 Piece of Jewelry with a Harmony trait. The Free Tri Stat resources you get back are enormous. The more Harmony the More Resources just by using someone's synergy. I use 1 Harmony as it is plenty for my build.

Very interesting suggestion to use Harmony! I can definitely see the positives with the myriad synergies out there. I just use Prismatic Recovery atm, but I think I'll go ahead and give Harmony a try (especially now that Chromium Plating is palatable). I think it gets better in more organized groups though. I primarily run PUG groups, so it can be hit/miss if anyone uses any synergies... but the return seems worth a try.

ElderSmitter wrote: »

I am a Stamina Based Tank which I Love with a Decent Magicka Recovery Return ... My #1 potion is Essence of Health It gives you Health + Stamina + Lingering Health restoring 1096 per second for 16 Seconds.

In my experience, I find one of the biggest pain points of Templar is the Magicka sustain, and one of the benefits would be all of the self heals. Interesting that you dropped the Magicka Restore and Major Intellect from your potion for just more Health Recovery. I'm guessing that Harmony is giving you amazing returns then to make up the difference, but I still think Tri-Pots would just be overall better. Cool that you're playing around with it though!

As a stam Tank, I would be interested in seeing your Skill bars. I assume you are running Living Dark, Radiant Ward, and Extended Ritual at least. With Blockade of Frost as well, it costs me ~15k Magicka! If the fight is mobile, or debuff heavy, I have to recast Extended Ritual and Blockade of Frost multiple times before the duration is over. In tough spots, I tend to spam Radiant Ward over and over. It ends up costing a lot and Mag sustain becomes difficult; especially if I accidentally block with staff. Spell Symmetry can help, but it has its downside... I usually rely on Ice Staff HAs. It recently got a shield increase, so it helps if you can time it.

Overall, I really enjoy Templar Tanking. It isn't the 'min/max'-iest Tank class for a variety of reasons, but it can get the job done most of the time and I enjoy the Templar aesthetic.





... also, Are You an AI? or did You feed Your Post through a Translation Program? It Feels Generated, or is it Just Me?

AI? lol... No i type everything Live in the US. I upload some of my tanking videos to YT when i get time. I do not run a staff. I have a very Unique Build that i have tinkered with for a long time and absolute love my Stamina Templar Tank. folks whisper me all the time about my build. The other day i ran Vet HM Castle Thorn and one of the DPS after whispered they have never seen such a strong Templar Tank lol. Yes 1 Piece of Harmony does wonders. My Magicka Recovery is around 1200 and rarely an issue at all. I have No Self Heal slotted at all. Do not need a Healer to heal me unless it is a Mechanic. Restoring Focus on my Back Bar gives me 4200-6k+ Healing every second alone and only costs like 550 Stamina to cast. So, no need for a selfheal. If i needed a selfheal i just use one of my damage shields as a instant self Heal. Hope this helps!

edit.. I should also add my Front Bar weapon is Perfected Masters Sword and Shield. So you also get massive healing from it.

SmellyUnlimited

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

Glad you’re enjoying Templar, and tank specifically, but what I didn’t see once within the thread was recognition that Sun Shield, an almost useless ability you’re pigeonholed into has completely lost it’s animation as of Update 40.

Being a Templar tank is already a ride against the current as it is hands down the least supportive class you can tank on, coming from someone that started and mastered the class/role combination early on.

Every other class for tanking has its niche, Dragonknight, Necromancer, and Arcanist absolute kill it in trials, Sorcerer and Nightblade are phenomenal for speed running dungeons, and Warden is the best arena pick.

Templar tanks heal? I can’t recall a time where low spell damage off-heals were necessary, or an improvement over anything else.

At the end of the day you can play whatever you want, it is a game after all, but I can’t in good faith recommend to anyone that they should play a Templar tank within the state it currently resides when comparing it to any other options.

What makes Nightblade tanks phenomenal for speed running dungeons? Are we talking purely Sap Tanking/Soul Tether? I’m not sure what other abilities they have that would lend towards tanking per se. Maybe Refreshing Path? I’m interested to hear how this is viable.

Tyrant_Tim

@SmellyUnlimited, Nightblade tanking anywhere other than dungeons isn’t a great experience, but as someone who has played a tank on every class, here are my observations, and sorry in advance for derailing.

Lotus Fan, an AoE Minor Vulnerability gap closer that makes everything die quicker and pairs great with Turning Tide.

Refreshing Path, an AoE Minor Resource return with Major Expedition to keep your group moving through them quickly.

Mass Hysteria, an AoE Major Cowardice hard CC that works great as a follow up to Lotus Fan to keep troublesome adds down, making sure a group member doesn’t get clapped by 20k+ uppercut queued by a tiny add the millisecond that the enemies are aggroed.

Using those three abilities make cruising veteran dungeons a breeze on Nightblade tank. Now, I wouldn’t recommend bringing it into Arenas or Trials because it lacks a burst heal, and it suffers the same problem that Templar does, with being stationary to survive, although slightly less-so.