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What is holding ESO back from being the GOAT MMO for YOU?

Cooperharley
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DISCLAIMER: ESO is probably my favorite game I've played, truthfully. Definitely my favorite MMO. Is it perfect? Of course not! No game is. What I'm curious about here is what YOU guys believe to be holding ESO back from being the greatest. This is for constructive criticism for ZOS and I personally GREATLY appreciate all the work that they constantly put into the game!

If you think ESO is perfect, you wouldn't change a thing, etc. then this poll is not for you :) Feel free to chime in obviously! Free speech of course, but mainly just curious what the playerbase thinks! Cheers and Happy Saturday!

What is holding ESO back from being the GOAT MMO for YOU? 331 votes

Monetization (crown store, crown crates, etc.) & lack of in-game earnable rewards (all motifs in the crown store, 99% of mounts in the crown store, etc.)
25% 84 votes
Lack of PvP updates/content (no arenas, no innovation, etc.)
24% 82 votes
Bugs and/or performance issues
13% 45 votes
Combat (light attack weaving, feel of combat, etc.)
8% 28 votes
Lack of "difficult" content (subjective obviously)
4% 16 votes
Other (please comment)
22% 76 votes
  • Cooperharley
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    rauyran wrote: »
    I voted "Other" since ESO is currently the greatest MMO available, in my opinion.

    Cheers :)
  • Nebs
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    I love this game, i wouldnt be on the forums if i didnt, but what keeps menfrom recommending it to friends is the monetization and the performance.

    Though, the biggest problem with monetization I have are actually Event Tickets in the crown store and the new bundles with exclusive items that they're now pushing out and not crown store prices or even crown crates. After they started selling tickets in the crown store many events in the game got unmistakably less generous, and since Microsoft bought Zenimax/Bethesda it has only gotten worse. The new bundles that are exclusive to massive crown crate purchases, or most recently the weapon style that comes with an armorer feel grossly monetized that are purposefully design to take advantage of people's fear of missing out and not even necessarily providing a desirable product.

    You know how they could sell new Armorers to players that already owned one? By discounting Armorers to the price of a house guest after "unlocking" the feature of an armorer with the higher cost. That, however, wouldn't be in the spirit of moneymoneymoney.

    But yeah, other than that, Performance. I hate how the server performance is not at all consistent and servers become undeniably overworked during free play periods, undaunted events, and pvp events. You'd think that being bought by one of the biggest server providers in the world would have improved their servers' available resources but instead it's just meant they now have the mastered skimming the line of Barely Functional.

  • KlauthWarthog
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    Bugs and performance issues are the big bad for me.
    Some of combat "quirks" like weaving and weapon swapping are just a big "meh" for me, nothing I particularly love, nothing I particularly hate... until you look at the game funny, and everything related to combat starts falling apart.
  • AzuraFan
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    ESO is the only MMO I play, so I guess it's the best for me. I find the combat (and all associated design, like bosses, skills, etc.) is what makes the game less than great for me.

    A very close second is RNG. This game has miserable RNG, and everything (even content, now, with the Endless Archive) seems to revolve around it. I don't expect super-duper RNG, but out of all the hours I've spent in MMOs, this is the worst for that. So I guess that would tie in to rewards. Bump up the RNG odds a little. Just a little. Not sure why they're so miserable here, and it's not to always to push us towards the crown store. Sometimes you can't buy stuff (like leads and rare fish) that you need.
  • francesinhalover
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    I only play eso so obviously for me it's the best lol

    However all those options are hard to chose because all of them are something that i would like to see fixed in the game (outside of pvp. Separate it from pve.)

    Overland pve could really use a difficulty filter. Even if it is a mythic that should be easy have. That increase all dmg taken by 90% and reduces all dmg done by 90%. The reward could be 150% permanent xp boost when mythic is used that works with all other xp sources.

    Combat for me the problem is the reliance on the same skills over and over, making all classes feel the same. I want new skill lines.
    for me psijic was a complete failure. I wouldn't mind if it got reworked.
    I don't like undaunted skills, all of them require other player synergy's.
    Deadly cloak shouldn't make our character look all white glowy also, i just don't like it.

    There's several bugs with several outfits in the game and costumes. that will probably never be fixed.

    My biggest issue with the crown store is that some things take sooo long to come back :c
    Anequine Oasis Eyes (i really want it. please bring it back T_T) will probably take years to come back.

    I am @fluffypallascat pc eu if someone wants to play together
    Shadow strike is the best cp passive ever!
  • TaSheen
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    It IS GOAT for me - best MMO and most fun I've had since Skyrim released.
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  • Tornaad
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    ESO is the Only MMO I have ever seriously played (I played WoW for all of 30 seconds before I got annoyed by its controls and Final Fantasy for about a minute) and it will likely be the only MMO I will ever play.
  • Bobargus
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    If the game had a difficulty slider, that of Skyrim - from novice to legendary, it would have made the game great for everyone. More difficulty options that are not connected to a player's build, gear, and/or status, the better it would be in my opinion.

    This may not be a good example, but think about Ghost Recon Breakpoint. In it, even when players choose to play the game together, the game responds to the players individually instead of as a group (if i remember correctly).

    Assuming that i remember GR:B correctly, If this online game can do this, why shouldn't any other online game such as ESO?

    To sum up: The only thing that is holding ESO back, in my opinion, is the lack of an in-game difficulty slider.

    Let players play however they wish, devs.
    Edited by Bobargus on November 18, 2023 3:12PM
  • Sarannah
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    Two things really:
    1: The dps gap. (Shouldn't exist)
    2: The way dungeons are broken/abuse of other players. (fake roles/speedrunning/etc)
  • Destai
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    Honestly, it is the best MMO for me right now. Maybe in a different time of my life I would say otherwise. Guild Wars may come close, but it’s not on console and not very active.

    But, yeah there are some issues with it. For me the most egregious problem is the reward system. There’s simply too much attractive content tied to the store and in limited time deals. There’s simply too much stuff that costs more than the game itself. Most of it should be in the game itself. And I don’t mean through seals; I don’t think that’s a fair system either.

    If I look through the achievements, there is very little content as a reward. Most of it are titles, dyed, and the occasional costume or skin. There should be houses as achievement rewards every expansion. There should be apex quality rewards tied to achievements and I shouldn’t have to do trifectas to get it.
  • Fenris_Arainai
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    I don't know what is a "Goat MMO". But if you mean what would make me like it more, the answer is simple (and not in the options): more story.

    Instead, this is the year when story got severely cut (no story in Autumn).

    So from my perspective, the game got WORSE this year.
    Glory to you and your Dunmer House!
  • TaSheen
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    I don't know what is a "Goat MMO". But if you mean what would make me like it more, the answer is simple (and not in the options): more story.

    Instead, this is the year when story got severely cut (no story in Autumn).

    So from my perspective, the game got WORSE this year.

    Greatest [Game] Of All Time....
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    But even in books, the heroes make mistakes, and there isn't always a happy ending.

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  • AzuraFan
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    TaSheen wrote: »
    Greatest [Game] Of All Time....

    Egads, I need to clarify my earlier post then. ESO is the best MMO I'm playing (because it's the only one I'm playing). It's not my GOAT and never will be because of the nature of MMOs. I think it could be improved, though, like all games. And it's fun when they get things right.

  • Ulo
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    I'd love expansions of content we already have, add more to preexisting skill lines like expanding the max level beyond 50 or adding active abilities to the DB or TG. Maybe make a specialist horse trainer that can increase some of your mounts stats beyond 60 for an extra cost, Rework alot of those older set bonuses that are just outright worse then the newer ones. Alot less likely to happen but I also love to see a new weapon type like spears. Oh, and for the love of god please, please, please rework the bloody Werewolf.

    tl,dr improve prexisting content.

  • Tandor
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    ESO is pretty much the perfect MMORPG for me, which isn't to say that there aren't aspects that I would change including the shift towards things being account-wide and the trading system being locked behind guild membership.

    However, so far as the poll options are concerned, I don't see an issue with monetisation given that it relates to cosmetic and convenience items which I mostly don't want and anything I do see as worth having is met by my subscription crowns. I don't PvP, and I don't experience any significant bugs or performance issues. I like the combat, and there is plenty of challenging content for me as a solo/cooperative player including base game dungeons and world bosses etc. Other things like the quality and extent of voiceovers together with the housing and crafting systems complement the rest of the game. While I do play other games to keep things fresh ESO has been my main gaming home since launch and it's likely to see me out.
  • Ezhh
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    Bugs (especially ones mentioned during PTS) not getting fixed very quickly.

    Class and set-imbalances. I know arcanist is the new thing, but does it really have to be overtuned to the point that it's the only parse DD most trial groups will accept? This makes the game more and more monotonous. Did most class sets from EA really need to be completely worthless? Why can't completely un-used sets be given a buff so they might not be terrible?

    Monetization. I'd love to do more with housing, but not when new houses cost more than I can buy a new game for.
  • TheImperfect
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    It is GOAT already!
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