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Grand Master Attunable Stations - Feedback

Batgirl32
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I just tried out these new stations - they are awesome. As the owner of the Guild House I was able to recover over 300 furnishing spots!

One suggestion - I saw that the player will need to know what zone the set is from in order to craft, which most of us do not know off the top of our heads. I would suggest an option that allows players to search the complete list alphabetically. Guild houses set up their tables in alphabetical order making it easier and more efficient for players to complete master writs. A similar layout for the sets list in the Grand Master Attunables would make these perfect.
  • lillybit
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    I know several guild house owners that aren't going to be using them for this reason - for bulk crafting master writs it'll be easier just carrying on with existing layouts. For consoles without add-ons at least.

    It would be nice to think they'll eventually add this but we're still waiting for the option to list styles alphabetically so I'm not going to hold my breath!
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  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    Wasn’t it searchable? (Can’t check presently.)
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    Wasn’t it searchable? (Can’t check presently.)

    Yes there is a search function in the base interface.
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  • BetweenMidgets
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    If LazyWrit can't just go to the single crafting station and perform them all, then many guilds won't be utilizing the GrandMaster Crafting Station.

    Half baked.
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  • code65536
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    If LazyWrit can't just go to the single crafting station and perform them all, then many guilds won't be utilizing the GrandMaster Crafting Station.

    Half baked.

    There's no technical reason why it can't do exactly that. Whether or not the addon gets updated in a timely manner to properly support the stations is another question, but that ball is not in ZOS's court.
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  • Veesk
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    ***Updating because the addons now work!
    Edited by Veesk on November 2, 2023 3:49AM
  • Sordidfairytale
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    Veesk wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    If LazyWrit can't just go to the single crafting station and perform them all, then many guilds won't be utilizing the GrandMaster Crafting Station.

    Half baked.

    There's no technical reason why it can't do exactly that. Whether or not the addon gets updated in a timely manner to properly support the stations is another question, but that ball is not in ZOS's court.

    It doesn't look possible currently for the mod author of writworthy.

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    https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1605-WritWorthy.html#comments

    I dunno, if Code says there isn't a technical reason, I tend to believe that there isn't a technical reason. Sharlikran is not the original author, they are simply maintaining Writworthy since Ziggr no longer plays. It could be they need some insight or a different perspective.
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    Veesk wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    If LazyWrit can't just go to the single crafting station and perform them all, then many guilds won't be utilizing the GrandMaster Crafting Station.

    Half baked.

    There's no technical reason why it can't do exactly that. Whether or not the addon gets updated in a timely manner to properly support the stations is another question, but that ball is not in ZOS's court.

    It doesn't look possible currently for the mod author of writworthy.

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    https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1605-WritWorthy.html#comments

    I see no reason why it can't be done. The API exists and is fairly straightforward to use. The maintainer was reacting to a user comment and hadn't looked at the API changelog at that point.

    In any case, support for GMCS in WritWorthy will require an update to Dolgubon's LibLazyCrafting, and he's said that he probably won't do that until after U40 goes live, so people will likely have to wait a bit, but there's no reason to fear that it won't happen.
    Edited by code65536 on September 21, 2023 5:26PM
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  • BergisMacBride
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    code65536 wrote: »

    I see no reason why it can't be done. The API exists and is fairly straightforward to use. The maintainer was reacting to a user comment and hadn't looked at the API changelog at that point.

    In any case, support for GMCS in WritWorthy will require an update to Dolgubon's LibLazyCrafting, and he's said that he probably won't do that until after U40 goes live, so people will likely have to wait a bit, but there's no reason to fear that it won't happen.

    I hope you’re right, cause as much as I’d love to get the new stations, I’m not going near them until they’re confirmed to work with Writ Worthy. I get around a dozen Master Writs each day and do them maybe once/week. It’s by far (95% or more) my most common use of the attunable sets. As long as the current addons continue to work with individual attunable stations, I’ll just stick with them until a confirmed working fix is made for the GM stations.
  • Four_Fingers
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    Can only the owner of the GM station feed it new sets or can anyone so guild members could contribute?
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    Can only the owner of the GM station feed it new sets or can anyone so guild members could contribute?

    That's a very good question. When you go into the station, it has an option to add a set but it doesn't need to be in edit mode so it definitely appears as if anyone could do it.

    My first reaction was to say it wouldn't make much difference anyway because attunables aren't bound so it only saves actually travelling somewhere and attuning them, but it might be a way to transfer stations that are already attuned between accounts. At the very least, it would mean GMs wouldn't have to have the latest chapters because someone else can add for them for them.

    I don't normally play on PC, I'm just here for PTS, so I don't know anyone else to test this with. Hope we get an answer soon because that actually raises some interesting possibilities...
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  • code65536
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    Can only the owner of the GM station feed it new sets or can anyone so guild members could contribute?

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  • lillybit
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    code65536 wrote: »
    Can only the owner of the GM station feed it new sets or can anyone so guild members could contribute?

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    Thanks. That's disappointing!
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    Every crafting UI needs to be searchable, ZOS does not seem to agree with the playerbase on this issue in general
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  • Four_Fingers
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    code65536 wrote: »
    Can only the owner of the GM station feed it new sets or can anyone so guild members could contribute?

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    Disappointing, guess there was potential for charging gold for loading sets into the GM station.
    Why we can't have nice things :(
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    bind on pick up is the biggest issue, without gifting this is going to be a problem for most guilds
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    bind on pick up is the biggest issue, without gifting this is going to be a problem for most guilds

    You can still gift the master writs themselves to the guild master to get the tables.

    Jewelry writs, which will at least be reasonably cost effective to do after U40, require no motif knowledge, and limited traits to do, could easily allow any guild to have these on day 1, provided they work together before the update to get those nice pre-U40 jewelry master writs.
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  • Batgirl32
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    Well it is unfortunate to hear that WritWorthy may not integrate with the new attunables. The primary reason guildies (in my case anyways) use the tables is for master writs and WritWorthy is a necessary addon for the amounts of writs being completed.

    A true 'ESO life improvement' would be:
    1- New attunables work with WritWorthy OR
    2- The elements of WritWorthy that make it a required add-on for quality of game life should be integrated into the base game for all players.

    So, until the time comes when either of those two scenarios happen in ESO, then there is no point in getting the new attunable stations for a Guild Hall.
  • BergisMacBride
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    Batgirl32 wrote: »
    Well it is unfortunate to hear that WritWorthy may not integrate with the new attunables. The primary reason guildies (in my case anyways) use the tables is for master writs and WritWorthy is a necessary addon for the amounts of writs being completed.

    A true 'ESO life improvement' would be:
    1- New attunables work with WritWorthy OR
    2- The elements of WritWorthy that make it a required add-on for quality of game life should be integrated into the base game for all players.

    So, until the time comes when either of those two scenarios happen in ESO, then there is no point in getting the new attunable stations for a Guild Hall.

    Agree. Not getting the new stations for myself until a verified workable version of WritWorthy for them is available. Doing master writs easily trumps the furniture space, especially now that they’re only releasing 3 new craftable sets/year instead of 6.
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    Batgirl32 wrote: »
    Well it is unfortunate to hear that WritWorthy may not integrate with the new attunables. The primary reason guildies (in my case anyways) use the tables is for master writs and WritWorthy is a necessary addon for the amounts of writs being completed.

    A true 'ESO life improvement' would be:
    1- New attunables work with WritWorthy OR
    2- The elements of WritWorthy that make it a required add-on for quality of game life should be integrated into the base game for all players.

    So, until the time comes when either of those two scenarios happen in ESO, then there is no point in getting the new attunable stations for a Guild Hall.

    Agree. Not getting the new stations for myself until a verified workable version of WritWorthy for them is available. Doing master writs easily trumps the furniture space, especially now that they’re only releasing 3 new craftable sets/year instead of 6.

    I can confirm that method described in addon's comments on ESOUI works with current version:
    Queue all writs as usually
    Walk up to station, type name of one of the sets (or just navigate to it) you have in queue, click on the name, exit and re-enter station. It will craft all items for the set you have in queue
    If you have writs for same set from other crafts, just walk up to different station, it will autocraft with no need to select again.

    Once you are done, select next one and keep repeating these steps until you are done.

    Won't be deal breaker for me, not that bad.

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    I do wish they would add all sets in alphabetical order view, with no categories.
    Edited by EF321 on October 19, 2023 11:07AM
  • Batgirl32
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    I can confirm that method described in addon's comments on ESOUI works with current version:
    Queue all writs as usually
    Walk up to station, type name of one of the sets (or just navigate to it) you have in queue, click on the name, exit and re-enter station. It will craft all items for the set you have in queue
    If you have writs for same set from other crafts, just walk up to different station, it will autocraft with no need to select again.

    Once you are done, select next one and keep repeating these steps until you are done.


    That only works if you are a keyboard player. I am a PC player who uses and Xbox controller. So not user friendly.

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    Also, that isn't very feasible to remember all the names of the sets when you are trying to do hundreds of writs at a time (I wait until double exp events to slam through my writs), plus I help run a guild and we get so many writ donations that literally can do hundreds in a few weeks
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    Batgirl32 wrote: »
    Also, that isn't very feasible to remember all the names of the sets when you are trying to do hundreds of writs at a time (I wait until double exp events to slam through my writs), plus I help run a guild and we get so many writ donations that literally can do hundreds in a few weeks

    See screenshot, you can have WritWorthy on top and type whatever you see that is not done yet. Can also just select normally through menu, I just found typing more convenient for me.

    Little difference from walking to correct station really :)
    Edited by EF321 on October 19, 2023 5:37PM
  • BergisMacBride
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    EF321 wrote: »
    I can confirm that method described in addon's comments on ESOUI works with current version:
    Queue all writs as usually
    Walk up to station, type name of one of the sets (or just navigate to it) you have in queue, click on the name, exit and re-enter station. It will craft all items for the set you have in queue
    If you have writs for same set from other crafts, just walk up to different station, it will autocraft with no need to select again.

    Once you are done, select next one and keep repeating these steps until you are done.

    Yeah I saw that. I'm too spoiled by the current WritWorthy functionality to go through those extra clicks.

    No worries though, I'll just keep doing them the way it is now. I generate anywhere from 1000-2000 writ vouchers\week, so maybe I'll just start work on a second full set of tables to use in the GM stations and place them in another house.
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    They must have built the interface copying the furnishing inventory which is by zone. But that makes sense as the style matches the zone. There's not really a relationship between the zone and sets...i know they're themed in names to reflect the zone, but that's not what matters for sets, it's the effects, and there's not a relationship btween the effect and the zone.

    Just add the search from the traders interface, zos.
  • ThelerisTelvanni
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    I love the grand master crafting stations to be a collectebel to place in every home.
  • EF321
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    @BergisMacBride @Batgirl32
    Lib Lazy Crafting was updated, it now works with WritWorthy full auto :) Walk up to station, crafts everything.

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  • BetweenMidgets
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    EF321 wrote: »
    @BergisMacBride @Batgirl32
    Lib Lazy Crafting was updated, it now works with WritWorthy full auto :) Walk up to station, crafts everything.

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    Great news, legit makes me excited for them. I want to see it for myself before investing, but thank you so much for the update!
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  • BergisMacBride
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    EF321 wrote: »
    @BergisMacBride @Batgirl32
    Lib Lazy Crafting was updated, it now works with WritWorthy full auto :) Walk up to station, crafts everything.

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    Good to hear. I'll probably wait until it's confirmed to work on the live servers before buying and dumping all my sets into them, just to be safe. Since update is delayed I still have tons of daily chores to do when i login, plus make sure all my other addons work. Major patch days are mostly "get everything working correctly" days for me.
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    Just a question, how many set stations currently have to be fed into each new grand station to have all the sets currently?
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