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If you're not a speed racer, this is the worst event ever.

Snowy_Wyndra_Karn
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That's it.
Edited by ZOS_Hadeostry on September 10, 2023 3:38AM
  • svendf
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    It have been like this for some year´s now. Haven´t attent any event for two year´s or so - the dungeon event was the first I skiped, and now dungeons all together.
  • Snowy_Wyndra_Karn
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    svendf wrote: »
    It have been like this for some year´s now. Haven´t attent any event for two year´s or so - the dungeon event was the first I skiped, and now dungeons all together.

    I was going to skip this event. I can solo the base game dungeons - well, most of them. It's enough to get my tickets. I also find it difficult being social.

    But, I felt like being part of a group so tried twice. Both times, tank raced ahead. I tried to keep up but ended up dying to whatever they pulled.

    Back to being a loner again.
  • peacenote
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    I've been enjoying it, but what I've been doing is being a real tank leveling my arcanist. I taunt, I set the pace, other folks follow politely. It's been nice. :)
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  • Snowy_Wyndra_Karn
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    AlterBlika wrote: »
    [snip]

    [snip]

    Just what I expected... thank you.

    [edited for flaming & to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on September 9, 2023 4:36PM
  • Maitsukas
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    As a tank wearing full heavy armor (no speed CP, no speed potions, no RotWH), I wouldn't even bother with the people rushing further in. I'll gladly wait for the re-queue penalty to pass than to get left behind and deal with all of the adds by myself.
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  • Snowy_Wyndra_Karn
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    Maitsukas wrote: »
    As a tank wearing full heavy armor (no speed CP, no speed potions, no RotWH), I wouldn't even bother with the people rushing further in. I'll gladly wait for the re-queue penalty to pass than to get left behind and deal with all of the adds by myself.

    I do the same.

    I've had some great experiences in dungeons. When you get a group who want to work together, it's pretty much one of the best aspects of the game. I guess this event is not for this.
  • ArchMikem
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    AlterBlika wrote: »
    [snip]

    Because it's the decent Human being thing to do.

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on September 9, 2023 4:37PM
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  • Snowy_Wyndra_Karn
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    AlterBlika wrote: »
    [snip]

    Because it's the decent Human being thing to do.

    Thank you <3

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on September 9, 2023 4:37PM
  • Amottica
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    Pre-form a group with like minded players. It works.

  • Snowy_Wyndra_Karn
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    Amottica wrote: »
    Pre-form a group with like minded players. It works.

    Yes, you're right, but... I have no friends in game. I'm not very social and I know it's an MMO. It's just hard for me.
  • Mesite
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    My dungeons have been much like the last event for the low level dungeons that dungeon finder sent us to. We rush through (I follow, like a good lemming) and then when the dungeon is finished a few of us go back and finish off the other bosses.
  • Snowy_Wyndra_Karn
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    Mesite wrote: »
    My dungeons have been much like the last event for the low level dungeons that dungeon finder sent us to. We rush through (I follow, like a good lemming) and then when the dungeon is finished a few of us go back and finish off the other bosses.

    The thing is, I really don't mind racing through - I don't. I just expect someone to maybe say at the beginning, "hey, how about we race through?"

    Maybe I'm the problem.
  • Ingenon
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    delenn35 wrote: »
    Maitsukas wrote: »
    As a tank wearing full heavy armor (no speed CP, no speed potions, no RotWH), I wouldn't even bother with the people rushing further in. I'll gladly wait for the re-queue penalty to pass than to get left behind and deal with all of the adds by myself.

    I do the same.

    I've had some great experiences in dungeons. When you get a group who want to work together, it's pretty much one of the best aspects of the game. I guess this event is not for this.

    When I get a PUG that is failing because of a speed runner, or folks that aren't doing their role, like 2 fake DPS that together are not doing 10k DPS in a DLC dungeon, one of the other team members will point this out and then quit group. Since I am entering queue with a tank (in tank build) or healer (in healer build), my queue times are not long, so I'm OK when this happens. I'm doing a few PUG per day during this event with my tank and/or my healer, and it has been fun overall, with only a few failures.
  • Braffin
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    delenn35 wrote: »
    Amottica wrote: »
    Pre-form a group with like minded players. It works.

    Yes, you're right, but... I have no friends in game. I'm not very social and I know it's an MMO. It's just hard for me.

    If you're playing on pc eu I can recommend you a guild specifically founded for slower-paced dungeon runs if you want. No need to be overboarding social there. More like an improved group finder with optional socializing.
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  • Snowy_Wyndra_Karn
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    Braffin wrote: »
    delenn35 wrote: »
    Amottica wrote: »
    Pre-form a group with like minded players. It works.

    Yes, you're right, but... I have no friends in game. I'm not very social and I know it's an MMO. It's just hard for me.

    If you're playing on pc eu I can recommend you a guild specifically founded for slower-paced dungeon runs if you want. No need to be overboarding social there. More like an improved group finder with optional socializing.

    Thank you, I really do appreciate that. I'm PC/NA, but thank you.
  • Snowy_Wyndra_Karn
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    Ingenon wrote: »
    delenn35 wrote: »
    Maitsukas wrote: »
    As a tank wearing full heavy armor (no speed CP, no speed potions, no RotWH), I wouldn't even bother with the people rushing further in. I'll gladly wait for the re-queue penalty to pass than to get left behind and deal with all of the adds by myself.

    I do the same.

    I've had some great experiences in dungeons. When you get a group who want to work together, it's pretty much one of the best aspects of the game. I guess this event is not for this.

    When I get a PUG that is failing because of a speed runner, or folks that aren't doing their role, like 2 fake DPS that together are not doing 10k DPS in a DLC dungeon, one of the other team members will point this out and then quit group. Since I am entering queue with a tank (in tank build) or healer (in healer build), my queue times are not long, so I'm OK when this happens. I'm doing a few PUG per day during this event with my tank and/or my healer, and it has been fun overall, with only a few failures.

    It's great you're having this experience... it really is.

    Once, a while back, I tried to initiate a kick from the group for someone who was racing through. The vote failed miserably so I left... hahaha. That's when I realised that I'm on my own :D
  • p00tx
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    delenn35 wrote: »
    Mesite wrote: »
    My dungeons have been much like the last event for the low level dungeons that dungeon finder sent us to. We rush through (I follow, like a good lemming) and then when the dungeon is finished a few of us go back and finish off the other bosses.

    The thing is, I really don't mind racing through - I don't. I just expect someone to maybe say at the beginning, "hey, how about we race through?"

    Maybe I'm the problem.

    No, you're not the problem. Both sides of the coin have to compromise if this community is ever going to manage to stop being so divisive over literally everything.I'm a speed runner, just because that's how I like to do all of my gaming, plus I don't have a ton of free time to meander through content and would also like to enjoy the rewards of this event. I ALWAYS ask at the beginning "Hi! speed run?". Sometimes people respond with "yes" or "doing quest", and the group adjusts to make sure the quester gets what they need, but most of the time I just get ignored. People need to learn to clearly and respectfully communicate what they want/need, or they forfeit their right to be angry at the outcome.
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  • Snowy_Wyndra_Karn
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    p00tx wrote: »
    delenn35 wrote: »
    Mesite wrote: »
    My dungeons have been much like the last event for the low level dungeons that dungeon finder sent us to. We rush through (I follow, like a good lemming) and then when the dungeon is finished a few of us go back and finish off the other bosses.

    The thing is, I really don't mind racing through - I don't. I just expect someone to maybe say at the beginning, "hey, how about we race through?"

    Maybe I'm the problem.

    No, you're not the problem. Both sides of the coin have to compromise if this community is ever going to manage to stop being so divisive over literally everything.I'm a speed runner, just because that's how I like to do all of my gaming, plus I don't have a ton of free time to meander through content and would also like to enjoy the rewards of this event. I ALWAYS ask at the beginning "Hi! speed run?". Sometimes people respond with "yes" or "doing quest", and the group adjusts to make sure the quester gets what they need, but most of the time I just get ignored. People need to learn to clearly and respectfully communicate what they want/need, or they forfeit their right to be angry at the outcome.

    You are the best kind of speed runner... and I'd be right behind you!!

    Communication - exactly!!!
  • Mesite
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    I don't always see the chat. I have it set so it pops up and then disappears. It takes me too long to answer on Xbox without a keyboard.

    I usually follow the leader - the one with the crown - even if no one else does.
  • dcam86b14_ESO
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    It's been pretty bad as a healer
  • Snowy_Wyndra_Karn
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    Mesite wrote: »
    I don't always see the chat. I have it set so it pops up and then disappears. It takes me too long to answer on Xbox without a keyboard.

    I usually follow the leader - the one with the crown - even if no one else does.

    I get that. I was on XBox for a couple years before I made the move to PC. I even had one of those keyboard thingys and it was still a nightmare to chat.
  • Snowy_Wyndra_Karn
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    It's been pretty bad as a healer

    I'm sorry for that. I've always been too scared to venture into tanking or healing. I think it's a real skill.

    I have the utmost respect for healers. A good healer can really make the difference.
  • Warhawke_80
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    I'm able to eek by level 1 Dungeons with my wife and our companions....it's not ideal but at least we can g6et the tickets and move on
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  • Snowy_Wyndra_Karn
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    I'm able to eek by level 1 Dungeons with my wife and our companions....it's not ideal but at least we can g6et the tickets and move on

    That's what I do... I'm ok for tickets so have no right to complain.

    It's just, I've had so much fun with groups in the past, and I felt like connecting again.

    I just think the event is not meant for this. It's a speed race event.
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    There is a guild finder built into the game, search through the guilds and find a large one that's free or has a weekly fee you're willing to pay. Ask in your guild chat for people to group with to farm dungeons at the pace you want to run.
  • jommerryrth
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    Rignt on the mark op. This event in particular brings out the worst in people and as zos hasnt altered it any to dissuade such behavior we can only assume its working as intended.
    Edited by jommerryrth on September 9, 2023 6:29PM
  • Snowy_Wyndra_Karn
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    Rignt on the mark op. This event in particular brings out the worst in people and as zos hasnt altered it any to dissuade such behavior we can only assume its working as intended.

    You're right, they've done absolutely nothing... and they never will.

    So many previous posts about a story mode and players speeding through dungeons. Nothing will ever be done.

    I'm ok, I can get my tickets. Not so, with players at a lower level. I would happily run through a dungeon with low level players and stop at every NPC and lore book. I remember the wonder of it all.

    I wish zos would finally cater to everyone.
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    delenn35 wrote: »
    Rignt on the mark op. This event in particular brings out the worst in people and as zos hasnt altered it any to dissuade such behavior we can only assume its working as intended.

    You're right, they've done absolutely nothing... and they never will.

    So many previous posts about a story mode and players speeding through dungeons. Nothing will ever be done.

    I'm ok, I can get my tickets. Not so, with players at a lower level. I would happily run through a dungeon with low level players and stop at every NPC and lore book. I remember the wonder of it all.

    I wish zos would finally cater to everyone.

    I have heard the devs say often..."We make the games we would want to play" that means them not necessarily the largest demographic in the game...they claim to be expanding the companion system more hopefully that means them being functional for more content than just overland...but I won't hold my breath.
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  • Snowy_Wyndra_Karn
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    delenn35 wrote: »
    Rignt on the mark op. This event in particular brings out the worst in people and as zos hasnt altered it any to dissuade such behavior we can only assume its working as intended.

    You're right, they've done absolutely nothing... and they never will.

    So many previous posts about a story mode and players speeding through dungeons. Nothing will ever be done.

    I'm ok, I can get my tickets. Not so, with players at a lower level. I would happily run through a dungeon with low level players and stop at every NPC and lore book. I remember the wonder of it all.

    I wish zos would finally cater to everyone.

    I have heard the devs say often..."We make the games we would want to play" that means them not necessarily the largest demographic in the game...they claim to be expanding the companion system more hopefully that means them being functional for more content than just overland...but I won't hold my breath.

    Would be nice, but I think you're right.
  • boi_anachronism_
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    p00tx wrote: »
    delenn35 wrote: »
    Mesite wrote: »
    My dungeons have been much like the last event for the low level dungeons that dungeon finder sent us to. We rush through (I follow, like a good lemming) and then when the dungeon is finished a few of us go back and finish off the other bosses.

    The thing is, I really don't mind racing through - I don't. I just expect someone to maybe say at the beginning, "hey, how about we race through?"

    Maybe I'm the problem.

    No, you're not the problem. Both sides of the coin have to compromise if this community is ever going to manage to stop being so divisive over literally everything.I'm a speed runner, just because that's how I like to do all of my gaming, plus I don't have a ton of free time to meander through content and would also like to enjoy the rewards of this event. I ALWAYS ask at the beginning "Hi! speed run?". Sometimes people respond with "yes" or "doing quest", and the group adjusts to make sure the quester gets what they need, but most of the time I just get ignored. People need to learn to clearly and respectfully communicate what they want/need, or they forfeit their right to be angry at the outcome.

    I do the same, i ask or for this event i typically just run with my prog mates.
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