This happens because DPS queues are so long. There needs to be a queue just for dps or anyone who doesn't need a tank or healer.
Ragnarok0130 wrote: »This happens because DPS queues are so long. There needs to be a queue just for dps or anyone who doesn't need a tank or healer.
Or maybe these DPS people can branch out and actually do the role they queue for. If the fake tank slots a taunt and tanks the boss I'll keep him alive as the groups real healer. Instead most of these fake tanks seem to run around in circles trying to avoid the boss with 18K health making the experience miserable for everyone. I've also seen them try to stand in back of the boss while the boss focuses the healer which irks me as well.
Ragnarok0130 wrote: »This happens because DPS queues are so long. There needs to be a queue just for dps or anyone who doesn't need a tank or healer.
Or maybe these DPS people can branch out and actually do the role they queue for. If the fake tank slots a taunt and tanks the boss I'll keep him alive as the groups real healer. Instead most of these fake tanks seem to run around in circles trying to avoid the boss with 18K health making the experience miserable for everyone. I've also seen them try to stand in back of the boss while the boss focuses the healer which irks me as well.
I tried actually playing a real tank build for stuff like that once. Never again.
Ended up with 2 dps who combined did less than 10k dps.
I'd rather play as DPS with a fake tank than play as tank with fake DPS.
Ragnarok0130 wrote: »This happens because DPS queues are so long. There needs to be a queue just for dps or anyone who doesn't need a tank or healer.
Or maybe these DPS people can branch out and actually do the role they queue for. If the fake tank slots a taunt and tanks the boss I'll keep him alive as the groups real healer. Instead most of these fake tanks seem to run around in circles trying to avoid the boss with 18K health making the experience miserable for everyone. I've also seen them try to stand in back of the boss while the boss focuses the healer which irks me as well.
I tried actually playing a real tank build for stuff like that once. Never again.
Ended up with 2 dps who combined did less than 10k dps.
I'd rather play as DPS with a fake tank than play as tank with fake DPS.
Exactly. A Traditional Tank, as is commonly thought of, requires a Traditional group. If you want a Tank that meets expectations, which are high, which makes sense, then the DPS and Healer must also meet that requirement, which is where things fall apart.
Ergo, if the DPS and Healer aren't genuine why should the Tank be? Just to carry them I guess? Yet, in a Traditional group, the Healer carries the Tank and the DPS take care of everything else. Many times though, the DPS and Healer are green and expect the Tank to do everything for them when this is not really how its intended to be.
AlterBlika wrote: »Tanking normals is kind of cringe for me, but anyway, I sometimes pug as a real tank in vet dungeons, and amount of fake dds is ridiculous. They do near to zero damage - what an experience being a tank! So no surprise there, playing real tank is so unrewarding in this game.
If its random normal dungeon, its ok, rnd is easy. Now fake dps is a bit of a worry, just hope that the fake tank and healer are dps.
If its random normal dungeon, its ok, rnd is easy. Now fake dps is a bit of a worry, just hope that the fake tank and healer are dps.
Of course there are fake dds. If a player isn't able to provide adequate dmg while queuing as dps, it's a fake.
Then we have players using a taunt, because they don't know they are using one. -> fake dd
And of course players which are running healing staves on one bar -> fake dd
If you want to use the classical role logic, you have to do it across all roles, otherwise it's cherrypicking.
Of course there are fake dds. If a player isn't able to provide adequate dmg while queuing as dps, it's a fake.
Then we have players using a taunt, because they don't know they are using one. -> fake dd
And of course players which are running healing staves on one bar -> fake dd
If you want to use the classical role logic, you have to do it across all roles, otherwise it's cherrypicking.