Low FPS (30s/20s) on GTX 780 (not sli)

oeb17_ESO

I do have only a 680GTX but i get constant FPS of 60 with vsync on and all maxed out, also running even on the ultrawide resolution of 2560x1080 !

I have to say its the best MMO performance wise i ever played. There can be so much players around the FPS hardly falls beneath 45 FPS, even on the PVP map.

So this must be a driver related issue for the 7xx series.

I also play on Win 8.1 if this maybe is different to all those 7xx problem users in here.

VisceralMonkey

Neshira wrote: »

After some playing with downsampling, i have to say, yes, the game looks a ton better, no doubt. unfortunately it did not really cause a higher GPU utilization, still hanging around at 60ish %...

Well, at least it looks better! Lolz. I haven't had any luck with other normals means of using AA, nothing seemed to work but down-sampling or using the in-game.

Asasinas

AMD FX-8350+16GB RAM+GTX 780+SSD drive and frame drops to 25-30 fps in the towns and some other places too.

Goregrinder

Did you try setting power management mode in nVidia's 3d control panel to "Maximum Performance" yet? Also, it sounds like more of a Driver issue only affecting certain GeForce chips and maybe only ESO. My $25 GTX 670 with my FX-6350 run this game at an average of 50 FPS. With Vsync on, I hit my 60 FPS max most of the time, and when there is an large anchor battle or I am in a populated city like Davon's Watch, it will sometimes dip to the 47 range, but usually fluctuate between 50-60 fps. My guess is that the issue is between either that family of GPU (Keplar right?) and ESO, or the nvidia driver and ESO. Maybe try a rollback driver and see if that works, although I am not sure of the 334 or 332 drivers support ESO, but I am pretty sure it will.

Neshira

I tried various drivers, going as far back as 331 i think, resulting in absolutely no difference. Also tried the power settings (and basically every other option in both, Nvidia and ESO settings). Im not exactly sure in how far it may be driver related (correct me if im wrong, im not an real expert on those things). The problem is, that ESO only "requests" approximately half the GPUs power (~40-60% GPU usage according to Asus GPU Tweak). If it was an issue on Nvidia's part, wouldnt the card run at max usage and only provide unproportionally low FPS?

Again, low FPS are not the problem, its only a consequence; the real problem is that ESO does not make the 780 run at its full capacity (or even close).

SkOODaT

If any of you are using addons and wowhead thier was a confirmed LAG issue and they updated thier addon yesterday to correct it

http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info2-Esohead.html

##0.1.7

Bugfixes
- Map callbacks were being fired way more than necessary from a fix in 0.1.6, causing FPS drops whenever a reticle hovers over a loggable object. This has been addressed to fire only when it should.

Alot of ppl noticed this really bad in main citie areas

Daverios

OP forget the advise everyone is giving here and do this.

1) Google Futuremark 3d mark.
2) Download that program.
3) Run it.
4) It will put your card through all the paces.


I have a ASUS GTX 770 and push 100+ on indoor zone and 60+ in outdoor ones. My score on 3d mark is about 9000. The card manufacturer can make ALL the difference, ie. a Gigabyte 770 is not as good as an ASUS or EVGA as it uses cheap parts. If you are not getting a similar or higher score in 3d mark, I would seek a refund for the card. If you are then the problem lies with the ESO application itself.

Greatfellow

I'm with you, folks: I have a GTX780 FTW version, dual SSDs, 4.7gh 8-core AMD, and I run in the low 20s in town, unless I'm looking straight up, or in a smaller area. All settings maxed. Now, I have draw distance set to 100, and when I drop it to 50 the rate goes up about 10fps. I've tried all sorts of settings otherwise and nothing seems to affect it. As in, I'm using RadeonPro for SweetFX, tossed in Ultra-level HBAO Ambient Occlusion, turned various configurations of AA on and off, turned on Aniso, really tried to stress and de-stress my equipment and none of it makes a darned bit of difference. I been shaking my head. My vid card just keeps putting along, never getting hot, handling whatever complications I throw on it, but not getting out of the 20s range unless I really lower the draw distance or go to a smaller draw area of the game. And even then, it doesn't pick up nearly the framerate I'd expect, just 5-10fps more.

Now, the card is awesome in every other game. There's nothing wrong with our cards. So, I can't wait to find out the solution to this so that we can unleash all that awesome power we have available.

Cheers, friends.

ZoM_Head

Read several cases, that the game does not even run true full screen mode, causing issues with the cards/drivers.

Nvidia has yet to release drivers or sli profiles for ESO, despite them advertising the game on geforce.com

So we need to wait for drivers to come out (firstly), then maybe a patch from ZOS to improve performance.

My i7 980 sees 50% load on loading screens (thats 6 cores and 12 threads), yet 7-11% load in game including huge mobs of people.

My 670 4GB runs on High when auto detect is used, in the beta it ran the game on ultra just fine (weird).

Masseffectman1

Same issue for me, have a GTX 770 and seeing only 60-70% max usage with only 30-50% utilisation of the CPU, ruling out any bottleneck. The game does not utilise my GPU anywhere near as much as it should, i get 45-60 fps when i should get a steady 60 fps. All we can do is wait for a patch from the developers.

Neshira

Just casually bumping this up, cause its an important issue... for me, the launch-patch has actually improved things *somewhat*, I do get up to 70, sometimes even 80% (for a short time period) of GPU utilization... still, its FAR from what it should be...

Zorak

Daverios wrote: »

OP forget the advise everyone is giving here and do this.

1) Google Futuremark 3d mark.
2) Download that program.
3) Run it.
4) It will put your card through all the paces.


I have a ASUS GTX 770 and push 100+ on indoor zone and 60+ in outdoor ones. My score on 3d mark is about 9000. The card manufacturer can make ALL the difference, ie. a Gigabyte 770 is not as good as an ASUS or EVGA as it uses cheap parts. If you are not getting a similar or higher score in 3d mark, I would seek a refund for the card. If you are then the problem lies with the ESO application itself.

You don't know what you are talking about. =(

darkkterror_ESO

Goregrinder wrote: »

My $25 GTX 670

You are one lucky SOB for being able to nab a GTX 670 for only $25

Putok

My old 7950 ran the game better than my 780ti for some reason.

FPS dips down into the low 40s at times, usually coinciding with both cup and gpu utilization falling.

Edit:
1440p with everything maxed. I5 3570k@4.4ghz, newish SSD, 16GB of 1800 RAM. HEAVILY (and I do mean heavily) modded Skyrim never drops below 60fps. Same for Crysis 3 and Hitman Absolution.

Still, at least the client is better optimized than Rift or SWTOR were at launch, and occasional drops into the low 40s are tolerable, though they will make me motion sick if they last too long.

Auric_ESO

check out eh beta nvidia drivers release a few days ago. Had some real performance increases and sli profiles specifically for eso according to thier customer service reps.

Furian

I didn't notice any real FPS gain with the beta drivers and GE Experience optimization. I'm still in the 30-40s while outside, 50+ when in dungeons.

Agathorn

I almost guarantee you its because of your CPU. or Memory. I have a 780 as well and the GPU utilization is very low.

With a 780, 4770k OC, and 16gb ram, I am almost always pegged at 100fps, and I have all settings on max.

odysseus33

I run a 780 and I avg 80-100. Have a Fx9590 @5ghz

Furian

Agathorn wrote: »

I almost guarantee you its because of your CPU. or Memory. I have a 780 as well and the GPU utilization is very low.

With a 780, 4770k OC, and 16gb ram, I am almost always pegged at 100fps, and I have all settings on max.

I have 16GB of DDR3 1600, and AMD FX-8350 8 core processor. Wish I could determine the issue, but it is most certainly NOT a lack of hardware!

I think now is a good time to get rid of Windows 8.1 and put Windows 7 back on to see if that makes a difference.

babylon

Daverios wrote: »

I have a ASUS GTX 770 and push 100+ on indoor zone....

You can't push over 100 fps in this game, it's capped at 100.

mudvayne7950_ESO

The cause of these low FPS issues is the video card itself is clocking down from its normal core clock. I always get the same FPS when my card is at max MHZ, (1215) but ive noticed that sometimes zoning in and out of a building, or sometimes even just moving from one place to another will cause the video card to downclock, ive seen my card running at about 750 mhz when it should be clocked at 1215 the entire time. And youll also notice that you only experience these FPS dips when the card clocks down, so its likely something wrong with the video card drivers handling the new game, or perhaps even something within the ESO graphical engine itself. As for a fix the only workaround i have found is relogging.

Furian

Relogging doesn't help my situation... off to load Win7 while the game is down.

jimfopao2

In many MMO's this is to do with loading new characters that come into range. All their individual info on armour and appearance being processed. With some MMO's I have used this stutter to warn me of approaching enemies - both npc and players. Been quite handy sometimes.
I am not sure about settings in this game but some MMO's have allowed you to NOT load all that sort of thing or limited the range at which it happens. In the old days running around looking at the ground was a winner.
Try fiddling with a few things like view distance or anything that lets you see players from farther away just to test it out. I don't know how close (or far away)someone has to be for your pc to receive their data. I don't know if it is a range thing or an actual 'can you see them on your screen ' thing. ie does it load someone behind you when they get into range or does it only load them when you turn around and get them in your field of view. Does that make sense.

Furian

Sure it makes sense, but the problem is some people are getting near perfect FPS with the same hardware, or at least the same GPU. I've tried various view distance settings, etc, to no avail, but ultimately, I should be able to play with max everything and still have great FPS.

I tried to load Windows 7 and had the same issue, actually Windows 8.1 is a bit better on benchmarks, but fps in game was about the same. Didn't have much hope in that, but when the game was down last night, I had the opportunity, so I gave it a shot.

Whats interesting is my gpu hardly every hits 50%, and same with CPU. Its like the game just doesn't want to use whats available to it.

rich.magab14a_ESO

The reason maybe, that you have to much machine for eso. That is certainly the case for me. I have a two 6 core cpus(24cores on windows), 32 gigs, of ram a solid state, and like you a 780ti. I had to do this solution below to fix another bug that i was having that was cpu based. You may want to give it a shot.


For PC, there's a tool called "msconfig.exe" that comes with windows. Under the boot menu, there are advanced boot options that allow you to select how many cores to use after boot. I had up to 12 cores to choose from--I selected 4, thinking that this was the typical "advanced" setup most PC users would have with their processors, and likely what the devs had in mind. This completely solved the purple glow and the sound issues I was having.

Furian wrote: »

Agathorn wrote: »

I almost guarantee you its because of your CPU. or Memory. I have a 780 as well and the GPU utilization is very low.

With a 780, 4770k OC, and 16gb ram, I am almost always pegged at 100fps, and I have all settings on max.

I have 16GB of DDR3 1600, and AMD FX-8350 8 core processor. Wish I could determine the issue, but it is most certainly NOT a lack of hardware!

I think now is a good time to get rid of Windows 8.1 and put Windows 7 back on to see if that makes a difference.

QuidamPhx

The newer nvidia beta drivers state there's up to a 25% increase in performance on series 700 cards. I'm using a GTX 780 and I'm usually a solid 60fps+ and 40 ish in crowded areas. i5 system. Maybe try these?

I didn't read right till the end of the thread so my apologies if this has been stated.

Furian

rich.magab14a_ESO wrote: »

The reason maybe, that you have to much machine for eso. That is certainly the case for me. I have a two 6 core cpus(24cores on windows), 32 gigs, of ram a solid state, and like you a 780ti. I had to do this solution below to fix another bug that i was having that was cpu based. You may want to give it a shot.


For PC, there's a tool called "msconfig.exe" that comes with windows. Under the boot menu, there are advanced boot options that allow you to select how many cores to use after boot. I had up to 12 cores to choose from--I selected 4, thinking that this was the typical "advanced" setup most PC users would have with their processors, and likely what the devs had in mind. This completely solved the purple glow and the sound issues I was having.

Furian wrote: »

Agathorn wrote: »

I almost guarantee you its because of your CPU. or Memory. I have a 780 as well and the GPU utilization is very low.

With a 780, 4770k OC, and 16gb ram, I am almost always pegged at 100fps, and I have all settings on max.

I have 16GB of DDR3 1600, and AMD FX-8350 8 core processor. Wish I could determine the issue, but it is most certainly NOT a lack of hardware!

I think now is a good time to get rid of Windows 8.1 and put Windows 7 back on to see if that makes a difference.

QuidamPhx wrote: »

The newer nvidia beta drivers state there's up to a 25% increase in performance on series 700 cards. I'm using a GTX 780 and I'm usually a solid 60fps+ and 40 ish in crowded areas. i5 system. Maybe try these?

I didn't read right till the end of the thread so my apologies if this has been stated.

I tried the beta drivers and it didn't make much of a difference, even using the GeForce experience optimization.

Now the CPU core thing seems to have helped as far as using more than one core. I noticed that ESO was only using one core and was running about 80%. I missed this before because I was looking at overall cpu utilization. However, after the msconfig change, even though ESO appears to be using two cores now, my FPS has not increased.

Edit: I rebuilt and have not put the new drivers back on, maybe it will make a difference once I put the beta drivers on with the cpu change. Will report back once I do.

Furian

Didn't make much difference with new drivers after cpu change. I should note that FPS has gotten better since I originally posted this... i seem to hover between 40-60 now, but that was before any changes, other than ESO patches. Guess I can live with that.... it will occasionally drop in the red though, if a ton of folks are hanging around bugged quest sites.

rich.magab14a_ESO

I think you should know that eso will probably never fully utilize your system because it's a 32 bit program, not a 64. That's why it installs in the x86 folder of your drive. that said you should have better performance than what your getting.

Furian wrote: »

Didn't make much difference with new drivers after cpu change. I should note that FPS has gotten better since I originally posted this... i seem to hover between 40-60 now, but that was before any changes, other than ESO patches. Guess I can live with that.... it will occasionally drop in the red though, if a ton of folks are hanging around bugged quest sites.

jimdove

I don't think the engine itself can handle whats going on in cities/ large scale pvp. Hopefully they are working on optimising it a bit more