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Why do you play? A question for hard-core PVE player.

washbern
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I have abandoned this game a while ago. Most of my guilds are dead. Most of my toons are geared. All of the story and overland content is done. I have done all the vet trials and most of the dungeons excluding the most recent ones.

So, for those who are still all about raiding and downing content, why do you play and what keeps you coming back?
Edited by ZOS_Hadeostry on June 19, 2023 3:15AM
  • peacenote
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    My friends. I've always been here for the MMO part of this game. I don't spend much time in ESO solo.
    My #1 wish for ESO Today: Decouple achievements from character progress and tracking.
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  • washbern
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    Yeah, I'm the u35 leaver. Got so mad and could not recover the desire I felt prior. Something about this game makes me want to play but then I log in and....... wamp wamp.... no desire to repetitively do the same thing yet again.

    I also migrated to WOW for now. Also casual. But yeah... thought I was missing something.
  • Soarora
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    Endgame is dead, there’s no doubt about it. But I found positivity in playing after taking a break due to the importance the game has to me as a TES player. I’ve quit doing dailies unless I actually want to do them and luckily the people I play with are still around.

    That said, I’m only still here because Necrom’s actually good and zos seems to be trying to be better (although failing in some regards). I’ve been waiting a year with the plan that Necrom was going to be make-or-break for me.
    PC/NA Dungeoneer (Tank/DPS/Heal), Trialist (DPS/Tank/Heal), and amateur Battlegrounder (DPS) with a passion for The Elder Scrolls lore
  • ADarklore
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    Reminds me of FFXIV, where the real endgame is fashion. I'm OK with that, because with all my alts, I still have years worth of quests to complete if I can ever stick with one character for long. ;)
    CP: 1880 ** ESO+ Gold Road ** ~~ Magicka Templar ~~ Stamina Dragonknight ~~ Magicka Warden ~~ Stamina Arcanist ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
  • Ragnarok0130
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    washbern wrote: »
    I have abandoned this game a while ago. Most of my guilds are dead. Most of my toons are geared. All of the story and overland content is done. I have done all the vet trials and most of the dungeons excluding the most recent ones.

    So, for those who are still all about raiding and downing content, why do you play and what keeps you coming back?

    I like the challenge of tackling new content at progresssively harder levels, I like the team work with a raid team and I like the friendships and socialization that comes along with forming a team and being part of a guild. As much as I love the ESO story lines it's the PVE group content that keeps me playing rather than knocking out a chapter's story line and logging off until the next one drops like I did early in the game's history.
  • Gargath
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    I play because of an interesting lore, the lizards, cat folks and such, and because I came here after finishing Morrowing, Oblivion and TESV Skyrim for several times and wanted to continue playing Elder Scrolls.
    ESO already became dull to me, with excessively repeating content, similar quests, annoying flashing mounts and abilities, flapping monstrosities, wall of text lines to click over and over, and immersion-breaking decisions of the Makers to change good things into rubbish (like with Plaguebreak) only because now they see something from different perspective.
    I keep returning and even subbing the game, probably because I like to harvest resources, trade items and test different sets and abilities.
    Though since last Plaguebreak change my willing to daily logging into game significantly decreased. Suddenly I noticed I have lots of other games installed that can also be interesting to play.
    PC EU (PL): 14 characters. ESO player since 06.08.2015. Farkas finest quote: "Some people don't think I'm smart. Those people get my fist. But you, I like."
  • Castagere
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    I'M a solo player and have been a TES fan since the Daggerfall launch. So I play it like a mostly single-player TES game.
  • Braffin
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    Simply for the lore and the nice atmosphere this game still delivers. A casual game for playing with my girlfriend (we both did PvE endgame in eso when it still existed years ago).

    Wouldn't bother with this game, if it weren't for tes-lore tho.
    Edited by Braffin on June 17, 2023 7:45PM
    Never get between a cat and it's candy!
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    Overland difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 24 DLCs. 40 game changing updates including One Tamriel, an overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver & Gold as a "you think you do but you don't" - tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game. I'm bored of dungeons, I'm bored of trials; make a personal difficulty slider for overland. It's not that hard.
  • SeaGtGruff
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    I'm not an end-game player, but I do consider myself to be hardcore-- casually hardcore, or a hardcore casual.

    I prefer to focus on mid-game, or all the things you do after you've leveled- and geared-up a bit but aren't ready to wrap up the main questline and all of the side questlines and then call the game done and move on. I'd rather live in the gameworld day to day so I can keep enjoying it.

    That doesn't stop me from playing other games, because I do play other games-- currently other TES games, although I've got games from other series that I can dig into if I feel like it. I play different TES games for different reasons. Arena is good for relatively short dungeon crawls out in the wilderness. Daggerfall is good for much longer and more involved dungeon crawls. I'm also playing through Morrowind and Oblivion again, but am generally trying to take my time with them. More rarely I'll do a few radiant quests in Skyrim, or just run around fighting random enemies and enjoying the sights.

    What I love about ESO is that there is so much to do-- not just a lot of places to explore, as in Daggerfall, but a wide variety of activities. I rarely get bored in the game, because if there's nothing else I feel like doing then I always enjoy running around in overland killing mobs and bosses, harvesting resources, and taking in the scenery. The daily endeavors usually serve me as a sort of daily to-do list, prompting me to do some activity I haven't done much lately, and I also have specific activities that I do every day as part of my routine.

    For me, the trick is to avoid the temptation to become so powerful that most things become trivial, and I also prefer not to grind content over and over for some piece of gear, Antiquity lead, motif page, or other RNG drop; I let those things happen as they will, which makes them more of a pleasant surprise instead of "Finally!!!" an end to an agonizing, tedious, and frustrating grind. I've currently acquired only 3 mythics-- only 1 of which is very useful to me, and I use it only on occasion-- and I'm in no hurry to try to acquire all of the rest.
    I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!
  • FantasticFreddie
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    I still have hardmodes to get
  • AzuraFan
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    I'm doing stuff like chasing down lore books, and achievements I want but don't yet have. I'm also playing through Necrom right now.

    Having said that, I expect to wind down a lot of my ESO time in the next couple of months due to some blockbuster single-player releases. I'm already splitting my time between ESO and single-player games.
  • TaSheen
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    I'm not a hard-core anything even though I spend hours every day in ESO. I love it, so I play it.

    @Tenthirty2 - you said the perfect mouthful, so thank you! Now I don't have to.
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  • Tenthirty2
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    TaSheen wrote: »
    I'm not a hard-core anything even though I spend hours every day in ESO. I love it, so I play it.

    @Tenthirty2 - you said the perfect mouthful, so thank you! Now I don't have to.

    /bows
    Haha, you are welcome, always happy to be of service :wink:
    • "Some enjoy bringing grief to others. They remind M'aiq of mudcrabs - horrible creatures, with no redeeming qualities."
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  • Carcamongus
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    I play because the game, most of the times, makes me feel good. I'm not sure what the definition of hardcore player is, but I suppose having over 14k hours on my DK might qualify me. I do a little bit of everything, though housing has been taking more of my time lately, so it's harder for me to get bored with the game if this or that activity becomes dull. It helps I'm a TES fan, so the stories, people and places remain relevant to me.
    Imperial DK and Necro tank. PC/NA
    "Nothing is so bad that it can't get any worse." (Brazilian saying)
  • Northwold
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    Housing, basically, and what's needed to support that. But also because I find pottering around the landscapes in the game can be relaxing in a way other games can't because the game is so huge that, eg, if I want to pop into a desert one day and stare at waterfalls the next, I can.

    But I'm not a "hardcore" player and would never want to be. There is so much meaningless busy work in the game (crafting writs, dailies) and, especially playing solo, trying to keep up with stuff like that on a daily basis strikes me as not a sensible way to employ one's free time. The game simply ceases to be enjoyable and becomes like having an utterly pointless, mindlessly repetitive virtual job, otherwise.
    Edited by Northwold on June 17, 2023 11:15PM
  • Jaraal
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    I mostly PvP, but as far as PvE goes, most of my time is spent searching for and acquiring (and sometimes selling) rare items in the game. It's like a treasure hunt on a grand scale.
    RIP Bosmer Nation. 4/4/14 - 2/25/19.
  • WeylandLabs
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    ESO saves me money IRL playing solo - having obligations to guilds or people in ESO I don't mess with anymore. But playing solo is just a fun time to pass the time if you're trying to relax.

    Besides that ESO - I wouldn't allow myself to create personal relationships and/or internet friendships because after a while you feel, obligated to them. And having a real life doesn't mesh well with that. I'm an adult have adult responsibilities in the real world.

    But I can say is guilds have made businesses out of it through boosting discord servers and if you can get a few 500 guilds to run stuff you can make a profit. But Zos really don't pay attention to that stuff so the reason why I think people in a lot other countries play ESO today. More people from North America have moved on I feel.
  • LittlePinkDot
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    washbern wrote: »
    I have abandoned this game a while ago. Most of my guilds are dead. Most of my toons are geared. All of the story and overland content is done. I have done all the vet trials and most of the dungeons excluding the most recent ones.

    So, for those who are still all about raiding and downing content, why do you play and what keeps you coming back?

    PVP
  • EramTheLiar
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    I think it's a fun game. I think the devs made some... unwise decisions in u35, but because I don't play optimized I think most of it didn't affect me the way it affected the upper tier players.

  • Lumsdenml
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    First of all because it is set in the Elder Scrolls world. I fell in love with the lore, the stores, the fantasy of the world back when Morrowind (TESIII) came out and Elder Scrolls games have been my main game ever since. Secondly because there is always something to do. I don't limit myself to simply end game content. I chase achievements, I PVP, I do battle grounds I do the card game, I complete the overland maps, I do BGs, I do the antiquities. I'll focus on one thing, then when I get burnt out, I'll move on to something else. People complain about u35, but I actually had better DPS number after than before, and it didn't change anything for me. But I play mostly because I love the world.
    In game ID: @KnightOfTacoma
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    RIP Priest of Tacoma - EP Lvl 22 Dragon Knight NA PC Kyne - Lost in the Garden of Shadows.
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    RIP Sovereign of Tacoma - EP Lvl 32 NightBlade NA PC Kyne - Lost at The Battle of Brindle, December 13, 2018.
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  • Uvi_AUT
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    What happened in U35 that the Hardcores dont like?

    As a casual I play because the game is just so huge. There is so much to do. ESO is as close to an infinite MMO as it gets.
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  • Lumsdenml
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    Uvi_AUT wrote: »
    What happened in U35 that the Hardcores dont like?

    As a casual I play because the game is just so huge. There is so much to do. ESO is as close to an infinite MMO as it gets.

    Base damage of all weapons no longer scale, but have a flat damage number
    In game ID: @KnightOfTacoma
    Main: Black Knight of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50/CP 2160 Nightblade NA PC - Grand Master Crafter, adventurer and part time ganker. Rank 35 - Palatine Grade 1
    PVP Main:Knight of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC - Rank 29 - Brigadier Grade 1 - Ravenwatch veteran. Blood for the Pact!
    Guild: The Disenfranchised - ZZ!
    Obituary:
    RIP Priest of Tacoma - EP Lvl 22 Dragon Knight NA PC Kyne - Lost in the Garden of Shadows.
    RIP.Viscount of Tacoma - EP Lvl 18 Dragon Knight NA PC Kyne - Lost in the war.
    RIP. Squire of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC - Died of Knahaten Flu.
    RIP Reaper of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC - Died of Consumption.
    RIP Sovereign of Tacoma - EP Lvl 32 NightBlade NA PC Kyne - Lost at The Battle of Brindle, December 13, 2018.
    RIP Dauphin of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC Kyne - Overdosed on Skooma.
    RIP Wraith of Tacoma - EP Lvl 10 Dragon Knight NA PC - Eaten by a dragon.
    RIP Red Knight of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC - Died at the Battle of Chalmen, March 18th, 2021.
    RIP Maharajah of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC - Lost in a sandstorm.
    RIP Vampire Of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Sorcerer NA PC - Fell asleep in the sun. RIP
  • Uvi_AUT
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    Lumsdenml wrote: »
    Uvi_AUT wrote: »
    What happened in U35 that the Hardcores dont like?

    As a casual I play because the game is just so huge. There is so much to do. ESO is as close to an infinite MMO as it gets.

    Base damage of all weapons no longer scale, but have a flat damage number

    And thats something Hardcores dont like? I dont feel any difference.
    Registered since 2014, Customer Service lost my Forum-Account and can't find it.....
  • colossalvoids
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    Guess I technically count as one even considering myself pretty casual.

    It's people, I probably won't be coming back if it was just about content itself as it's dependant on other parts of the game that might change negatively for me despite encounter team doing incredible job overall.
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