Dyes question for ZOS.

katorga

I really wish they would standardize the palette across all of the motifs...nothing is more frustrating that coming up with a great outfit using multiple complementary motifs and have the same color look different on each motif.

Billium813

> We want rewards for in game play!
> We want to just purchase everything!

I find it kind of funny how bipolar the community can be sometimes.

Which is it? Do you want good rewards for achievements? Or do you just want to pay money and buy everything in the cash shop? Why do you feel that a unique dye isn't an adequate FREE reward for an achievement? Is it because you don't even use your own dyes?

Araneae6537

Billium813 wrote: »

> We want rewards for in game play!
> We want to just purchase everything!

I find it kind of funny how bipolar the community can be sometimes.

Which is it? Do you want good rewards for achievements? Or do you just want to pay money and buy everything in the cash shop? Why do you feel that a unique dye isn't an adequate FREE reward for an achievement? Is it because you don't even use your own dyes?

Eh, I’d like for most aspects to be available both ways — I think is well done with costumes. There are quite a few that can be earned in game and then more that can be bought. Dyes as achievement awards just seem weird to me and a needlessly frustrating impediment to customizing your look, especially since there is so much variation in how they work. In GW2, there were series (the abyssal dyes for instance) that dyed items a certain way and then came in different colors — this helped to find just the right one.

Besides costumes, I like furnishings as achievements, even if I must additionally buy them. Completing Depths of Malatar was a big deal for me and well commemorated with the Orb of Meridia furnishing that I bought.

Billium813

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Billium813 wrote: »

> We want rewards for in game play!
> We want to just purchase everything!

I find it kind of funny how bipolar the community can be sometimes.

Which is it? Do you want good rewards for achievements? Or do you just want to pay money and buy everything in the cash shop? Why do you feel that a unique dye isn't an adequate FREE reward for an achievement? Is it because you don't even use your own dyes?

Dyes as achievement awards just seem weird to me and a needlessly frustrating impediment to customizing your look, especially since there is so much variation in how they work.

Besides costumes, I like furnishings as achievements, even if I must additionally buy them. Completing Depths of Malatar was a big deal for me and well commemorated with the Orb of Meridia furnishing that I bought.

> a needlessly frustrating impediment to customizing your look
> I like furnishings as achievements

Why aren't furnishings as an achievement a "needlessly frustrating impediment to decorating your house"?

Araneae6537

Billium813 wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Billium813 wrote: »

> We want rewards for in game play!
> We want to just purchase everything!

I find it kind of funny how bipolar the community can be sometimes.

Which is it? Do you want good rewards for achievements? Or do you just want to pay money and buy everything in the cash shop? Why do you feel that a unique dye isn't an adequate FREE reward for an achievement? Is it because you don't even use your own dyes?

Dyes as achievement awards just seem weird to me and a needlessly frustrating impediment to customizing your look, especially since there is so much variation in how they work.

Besides costumes, I like furnishings as achievements, even if I must additionally buy them. Completing Depths of Malatar was a big deal for me and well commemorated with the Orb of Meridia furnishing that I bought.

> a needlessly frustrating impediment to customizing your look
> I like furnishings as achievements

Why aren't furnishings as an achievement a "needlessly frustrating impediment to decorating your house"?

I was just saying how I feel about it is all, based on my own preferences and expectations, of course. I expect special furnishings to be more of an end game thing and I’m not talking about a table (actually, I think a lot of basic furnishings should cost less to make and be more accessible, but that’s another topic) but a furnishing specific to that dungeon, like the trophies. If we had easy access to a full palette of basic dyes and the achievement ones were unusual and somehow associated with the achievement, that would be better, IMHO. As it is, I don’t recognize most dyes or what they mean anyone has done and I don’t know where most of mine came from unless it’s in the name. A lot of the dyes don’t work at all how you would expect based on the color swatch or the name and you just have to try everything available. Whereas if there were series of shiny dies, matte dyes, two-tone dyes, etc., this could really help people find what they’re looking for!

Again, I was just explaining my perspective on it further. I think everyone has different feelings on what should be available immediately versus earnable through gameplay versus purchase. Also, I don’t think ESO’s dye system is terrible, I just prefer how GW2 has handled dyes.

Einar_Hrafnarsson

I got more of a problem with dyes looking completely different on armourpieces that have the same class/materials. It is heavily inconsistent

shadyjane62

I have never bought a dye for that very reason. If I buy a color I want it for always especially if I trade real life money for it.


Way too much cash shop in this game. It becomes pay to win if you count the things being done in chapters you don't own.

Tensar

ppl crying because they want to pay directly for custom even when it's available in game for free.

This kind of peaple are encouraging devs to make poor games

magnusthorek

What frustrates me more regarding dyes is that, when applied, they rarely look like what their colour swatch indicates — or even what ZOS says about them. Like Void Pitch Dye from Vateshran Hollows' achievement Honor to the Spiritblood. ZOS said it was the blackest dye in the game, but it turns out it's not really black, it's, instead, a very dark purple tone. It's not ugly, it just doesn't have a wider range of use cases as black does.

Or, perhaps, dyes like Frozen Blood from Harrowstorm Delver achievement. The colour swatch looks a reddish dark-brown, while, in fact, it makes our gear look as if our character took a shower in acid. o.O

But the worst thing about dyes is that costume dyeing is locked behind a subscription. Many years ago, when we had only a handful of costumes, we could freely colour as we wanted. Then ZOS did this "D" move, locking it.

As far I'm concerned, except for the DLC access, extended limits (bank, currencies, lead timers...) and Crafting Bag an ESO+ member have, this is the ONLY thing regular players used to have and don't have anymore. And this is low, because, unlike the other goodies mentioned, it's a purely cosmetic feature that was taken from us.