Which race is getting not enough love from zenimax?

robwolf666

Bosmer (Woodelf)

I narrowed my vote down by which races have/haven't had a dlc zone, then chose from those.

Castagere

Redguard

Redguard's passives are so dumb to me. They don't even match their lore. Redguards are the front-line fighters, not tanks. That sword and board passive needs to go. It should be replaced by a bonus for all bladed weapons. They are the sword Singers.

dem0n1k

Akaviri

Zama666

Imperial

I doubt Imperials will get more love because they have to purchased.
You can't purchase love.

Elsonso

Zama666 wrote: »

I doubt Imperials will get more love because they have to purchased.
You can't purchase love.

It is the race no one talks about but is always there.

DP99

Bosmer (Woodelf)

My Bosmer needs her stealth and bow superiority! Also, some more zones to explore and lore to learn!

Finedaible

Redguard

It's a tossup between Bosmer and Redguard for me. On the one hand Bosmer have gotten little to no focus since the base game, but on the other I really liked how immersive Redguard culture was, and the whole political tension between the Crowns and Forebears in the Alik'r questline was pretty good.

KlauthWarthog

Bosmer (Woodelf)

Initially torn between Argonian, Bosmer and Redguard...then I remembered the bards from Murkmire and noped Argonians out of the list.
Flipped a coin, Bosmer got the vote.

Lucasalex92

Altmer (Highelf)

i voted altmer, but now i think the races that need more love are Dunmer, Orc, Redguard and Imperial

Jarl_Ironheart

Argonian

I would say argonian as they only have 2 areas where as the bosmer have 3, Greenshade, Malabal Tor and Grahtwood.

endgamesmug

Dunmer (Darkelf)

Dunmer used to be so good, big mag pool then 8 percent bonus to flame damage. Sure they may be versatile now for hybrid but so boring, i havent bothered with them at all since their race nerf.

Dr_Con

I was going to say bosmer & redguard, seems like people agree

Kallykat

Bosmer (Woodelf)

"Which race is not getting enough love from Zenimax?"
Redguard and Bosmer

"Which race would you like to get more focus in the upcoming years?"
Bosmer

(Edited for grammar)

Captain_Devildog

Templar

The_Titan_Tim

Redguard

Captain_Devildog wrote: »

Templar

Yeah, the Templar race needs more love.

Lumsdenml

Dunmer (Darkelf)

Dark elves. The only good elves...

colossalvoids

Imperial

After year of Bretons I actually want to answer Breton again as it got nothing substantial or merely interesting. Same goes for Imperials but those have really interesting territories to explore still at least to get something.

Gameplay wise it's redguard, won't be surprised it's the least used one after last race rebalance we had. I've even forgotten the race existed while voting, no content and no usability at all so it would absolutely take the dust cake lol.

Dr_Con

Jarl_Ironheart wrote: »

I would say argonian as they only have 2 areas where as the bosmer have 3, Greenshade, Malabal Tor and Grahtwood.

I was thinking more along the lines of racial passives tbh, the OP's directions encompass a lot of gameplay, but when people talk about racial stuff they usually mean passives. My assessment of Bosmer and Redguard needing some TLC heavily suggested that the passives get looked at.

If we compare Argonian to anything it should probably be Khajiit, but at the same time the things most would want to explore are shrouded in mystery, so no huge rush. Murkmire was aight, and we got blackwood too on top of shadowfen, so that makes 3.

Aztrias

Redguard

Redguards

KingArthasMenethil

derkaiserliche wrote: »

Which race you would like get focused more in the upcoming years?

This includes areas to quest and discover, houses, furniture, mounts, motifs, npcs and lore mostly.

Would personally prefer Imperial but TES has only brought me pessimism in regards to Imperial "content".

However with no bias Bosmer ultimately need it the most out of things since they've been left in the dust and then Redguards.

Dunmer can go and stay at the back of the line because there is a clear bias for the Dunmer in TES that spreads across everything.

Aelorin

Bosmer (Woodelf)

tonyblack wrote: »

Barring Summerset altmers were only rarely used as a side characters (and no, I don’t consider vampires from ravenwatch to relate to anything altmer related or enrich lore of anything other than vampires themselves). No altmer companions, no major protagonists, barely any house, zone or significant objects related to them lorewise. 1 dungeon is probably the best thing they got in years. Hopefully, next chapter would have altmer companion at least.

No major Altmer protagonists: Mannimarco says hi!

Altmer was and will be my first character in every TES game. But I do think Bosmer deserve some more attention: From passives, lore and content.

amig186

Altmer (Highelf)

Altmer is my preference, but Redguards really need a new zone. They still only have 1.5 zones, Alik'r and south Bangkorai.

Aelorin wrote: »

No major protagonists: Mannimarco says hi!

I assume he meant the expansions, they had a decent deal in the basegame with Ayrenn, Valaste, Vanus Galerion and Mannimarco. If the next zone has a Dwemer ruin then Neramo will probably make a triumphant return, it's been too long.

SleepyJoe90

Bosmer (Woodelf)

I vote Bosmer, little in the way of expanded lore and never appears to be listed in the top three race choices for any class.
It would be nice if their racial passives were more useful especially for the one class that seems made for them lore wise - warden.

peacenote

Bosmer (Woodelf)

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/459007/wood-elf-bosmer-losing-stealth-passive-an-open-letter/p1

I didn't even care that much about this at the time... except it made me so sad that ZOS didn't listen to the community on something so simple. Now it seemed like foreshadowing of things to come.

Let's get a release focused on Bosmer and get their stealth restored!

Kallykat

Bosmer (Woodelf)

amig186 wrote: »

Altmer is my preference, but Redguards really need a new zone. They still only have 1.5 zones, Alik'r and south Bangkorai.

I don't disagree about Redguards needing a new zone, but I would probably count Hew's Bane as well. It's in Hammerfell and utilizes Redguard architecture, motifs, etc.

Redguards_Revenge

Redguard

The obvious...is redguard....

Not just by zones but also class passives.


Don't ever tell me that 1000 stamina every 5 seconds when you have to ATTACK for it, is superior to either 258 stamina recovery every 2 seconds (850 every 6 seconds without buffs) or 2000 health (without buffs)

Yes, without...buffs....can you tell me what redguard passive, compared to any other race has a passive that can be increased with an easily accessible buff?


Altmer - spell damage
Dunmer - spell damage and weapon damage
Bosmer - Stamina Recovery
Orsimer - Weapon damage
Breton - magica recovery
Nord - Health
Imperial -Health
Argonian -Health
Kahjiit - Health, recoveries


It always bugged me that 1000 stamina every 5 seconds. 5 seconds is a lot of time to pass, not only that it isn't automatic, something must be hit.

Even though on paper it's like 400 stamina recov every 2 seconds, in practice it's a failure. One must wait 5 seconds to get it AND attack. It should be changed to 400 stamina back every 2 seconds upon attack. Note this is the same amount, just with a more reliable resource regain over time.

or it can be switched with 350 stamina recov.


Then we have the reduction of weapon skills. Most stamina weapon skills are cheap and are below 2k. 8% of 2k= 160 stamina per hit.

2k/160=12 uses. That I have to do to see benefit of getting in an extra hit due to the weapon %....

So I would have to have at minimum 24k STAMINA. To see a benefit. This is why I say most % reductions are inferior to raw stamina recovery. The fastest you can do a move is one second.

so unless you are fighting a dummy the max you save is 320 stamina...YOU MUST ATTACK!!! while stamina recovery on the other hand with buffs, you can move around, stand, hide, etc...AND GET THE RESOURCES BACK !!!

You want me, a redguard to be on the attack with no offensive damage buff. No defensive buff...to stand in front of somebody attacking to save resources? Have > 30k stamina but have no health? Spending resources...to save resources...that don't make no sense.

You know, I just realized I might have just unraveled something bigger than redguard.

I am going to come back in january and make a list of all the ON PAPER sets, buffs and debuffs in the game.

I was so shocked when I saw one set that was not proc....do the same damage as a proc set that had more crit and offensive damage on it...Then I realized...what zos did here...most sets will net you the same DPS...looks good on paper...but in practice....does the same...I need to go back into the game and just see all these sets...sets that output the same amount of dps....but are less dependable because they proc....They might do the same DPS over time but they surely don't do the same healing...BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO ATTACK TO PROC IT!!!! HAAHAHAHHA...So that means the non proc set that does the same DPS is superior overall. I can't say the names of these sets right now...

All I will say is you see 400+ offensive damage on proc....but...what does that really mean defensively? Passively? When not attack? How much damage can you do while not actively attacking? How much healing can you do without actually attacking? How much resources do you get back without attacking?

Think about these questions and unravel the truth. You'll then realize the better/stronger sets are always in another castle....

Redguards_Revenge

Redguard

Captain_Devildog wrote: »

Templar

I am a Redguard Templar. At least I look good dying left and right in PVP and coming near the end in damage in PVE.

Xarc

Redguard

Redguards are forgotten.

I mean, they did not get their own chapter, for now.

maybe this year

amig186

Altmer (Highelf)

Kallykat wrote: »

amig186 wrote: »

Altmer is my preference, but Redguards really need a new zone. They still only have 1.5 zones, Alik'r and south Bangkorai.

I don't disagree about Redguards needing a new zone, but I would probably count Hew's Bane as well. It's in Hammerfell and utilizes Redguard architecture, motifs, etc.

Right, I keep forgetting that place even exists. I'm not sure if I would count it as a full Redguard zone since it's almost entirely used just for Thieves Guild business. Fargrave also has Redguard architecture but otherwise no new content for them.
Omitting Stros M'kai and Craglorn is 100% a screwup on my part though. What do you know, looks like the Altmer need a new zone more after all. Maybe with some Bosmer presence so they can get an upgrade to their motifs and furnishings.

Vevvev

Breton

I know I know.... just had a whole chapter, but come on... it was really bad lol. Poor Bretons...