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Hear ye, hear ye, stop this dialogue please

  • spartaxoxo
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    the ToT tutorial IS mostly skippable now

    Yes, that what was I was trying to get across. I was trying to say that it's too bad you can't skip it on every toon, since some people never want to play. But, at least you only have to it just the once per account. Sorry if I was unclear. Dino would need to do it 4/50 because he has 4 separate accounts, and 50 total characters.
  • spartaxoxo
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    Reminds me of when they removed the Bosmer stealth and Argonian poison immunity almost four years ago, and to this day the quests and other lines from NPCs haven't been modified to reflect the changes in lore.

    Because the lore hasn't changed, this game is set before the events of the other games. It's just the vestige for whatever reason doesn't have those passives, not Bosmer and Argonians in general.
  • UntilValhalla13
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    Hey remember the card game that nobody wanted? We're going to remind you that it exists in every town.

    We've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty...
  • Sailor_Palutena
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    Installed Shut Yer Trap and Sorinne has shut her trap! :D
    The absence of her pestering spam monologue is beautiful :)

    I downloaded it too. Good to know it fixed things.
  • Jaraal
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Jaraal wrote: »
    Reminds me of when they removed the Bosmer stealth and Argonian poison immunity almost four years ago, and to this day the quests and other lines from NPCs haven't been modified to reflect the changes in lore.

    Because the lore hasn't changed, this game is set before the events of the other games. It's just the vestige for whatever reason doesn't have those passives, not Bosmer and Argonians in general.

    My vestige (and "millions" of others) started out stealthier than every other race besides Khajiit. That lore is part of why I chose that race for my first, and main character. But they felt it important enough to change the lore halfway through for certain Bosmers, but not others. And they never explained why it was half done.

    So I don't really know what you are saying about this game being set before the events of the other games.
  • spartaxoxo
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Jaraal wrote: »
    Reminds me of when they removed the Bosmer stealth and Argonian poison immunity almost four years ago, and to this day the quests and other lines from NPCs haven't been modified to reflect the changes in lore.

    Because the lore hasn't changed, this game is set before the events of the other games. It's just the vestige for whatever reason doesn't have those passives, not Bosmer and Argonians in general.

    My vestige (and "millions" of others) started out stealthier than every other race besides Khajiit. That lore is part of why I chose that race for my first, and main character. But they felt it important enough to change the lore halfway through for certain Bosmers, but not others. And they never explained why it was half done.

    So I don't really know what you are saying about this game being set before the events of the other games.

    Bosmer remain stealthy, just as they are depicted in the other games. So, no quests needed to be updated. It's not Bosmers that lost this, it's only the Vestige. It is not a lore change, it's a gameplay change. And yeah, I agree it sucks.
  • code65536
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    The choice of words is rather grating, too. How the hell is a card game a test of courage?

    In any case, it's an insult to the players that we are spammed with this adware all over the place.
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  • rpa
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    If you do the tutorial but don't take the task to win a match after that (or like me, take it and abandon it) you get a disappointed "It's you..." from Sorinne when you pass. Which is much more tolerable.
  • rpa
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    Anyway, I installed the Shut Yer Trap addon to shut up companions. I did mute Sorinne with one char who has not touched the tutorial and walked past her with (my only) char who did teh tutorial and got "Here you are..." from Sorinne. She appears muted in addon setting settings with that char too so I'm not sure how 100% effective the addon is. But if it even mostly works its a huge QOL improvement.
  • Jaraal
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    code65536 wrote: »
    How the hell is a card game a test of courage?

    You have to be pretty brave to attempt to sneak into the gambling hall without any of your friends (or relatives) seeing you.
  • Wolfkeks
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    Players: Stuga! be quiet!

    Stuga: >:(

    Stuga: *sends out the ToT NPCs out in the world*

    Players: Not again!

    Stuga: >:)
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  • Hotdog_23
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    You would think with AWA if we did it once on our accounts then all of our other characters would not have to do this. After we can’t do a lot of things either because of AWA but you better do ToT.

    Stay safe :)
  • Mik195
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    They need to change this and battlegrounds to end with talk to someone. The only way to clear the battleground quest markers is to play a match. So ZOS thinks ruining the experience of 3 randoms is a good thing since I'm getting close to entering a battlegrounds, but I will not participate. Its bad design to harm gameplay to force people like this.
  • Ragnarok0130
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    It would have been far more tolerable if she was limited to High Isle but she’s in every major city. Certainly good ole Raz can make her disappear for the good of Tamriel!
  • Deter1UK
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    What's also very annoying is that having tried the game and deciding that I have no love for it in any way I am then forced to play a game I heartily dislike in order to progress Raz's quest.

    I very much hope they don't play that trick again.

    None of my alts will be doing that quest at any rate!
  • TaSheen
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    Deter1UK wrote: »
    What's also very annoying is that having tried the game and deciding that I have no love for it in any way I am then forced to play a game I heartily dislike in order to progress Raz's quest.

    I very much hope they don't play that trick again.

    None of my alts will be doing that quest at any rate!

    Someone posted in another thread that there's a way around it I think?
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  • Deter1UK
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    TaSheen wrote: »
    Deter1UK wrote: »
    What's also very annoying is that having tried the game and deciding that I have no love for it in any way I am then forced to play a game I heartily dislike in order to progress Raz's quest.

    I very much hope they don't play that trick again.

    None of my alts will be doing that quest at any rate!

    Someone posted in another thread that there's a way around it I think?

    Thanks, ill keep my eyes open
  • TaSheen
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    @Deter1UK - here you go:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7754378/#Comment_7754378
    Bekkael wrote: »
    Also, @SammyKhajit , I just conceded the card game, and the quest progressed with no problem, but I share your annoyance about how that was shoehorned in there.
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  • Triplesixtyson
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    I cant stand that npc. We all know about the card game, most dont play it, we dont need a constant reminder. They really just need to shut her off game wide.
  • MissPan3024
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    TaSheen wrote: »
    @Deter1UK - here you go:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7754378/#Comment_7754378
    Bekkael wrote: »
    Also, @SammyKhajit , I just conceded the card game, and the quest progressed with no problem, but I share your annoyance about how that was shoehorned in there.

    I understand that I can spend time picking up the quest, finding the game hall, talk to whomever, tutorial, play, concede……..
    BUT I DONT WANT TO PLAY CARDS LOL. I just want to play ESO without being harassed in every single city and town about Tot.
  • TaSheen
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    TaSheen wrote: »
    @Deter1UK - here you go:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7754378/#Comment_7754378
    Bekkael wrote: »
    Also, @SammyKhajit , I just conceded the card game, and the quest progressed with no problem, but I share your annoyance about how that was shoehorned in there.

    I understand that I can spend time picking up the quest, finding the game hall, talk to whomever, tutorial, play, concede……..
    BUT I DONT WANT TO PLAY CARDS LOL. I just want to play ESO without being harassed in every single city and town about Tot.

    I understand your reaction. But I was giving the other player (@Deter1UK) a dodge for the next time he has the issue with that particular quest (I believe it's "An Eye for an Eye" with Razum-Dar - not the quest for the TOT setup).
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  • blktauna
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    I say we should be allowed to kill her.
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  • Alphawolf01A
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    I've gotten to the point with all the jabbering, gossiping NPCs, that I turn the dialog audio in the options all the way off. I only turn it back on when new story chapters and DLCs come out. Once they are done, all the NPCs get muted again.

    And yes, this can be done on console.

    I only wish that it worked on the bards. Muting NPCs and turning off the music does not stop the bards. Unfortunately.
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    Having ESO+ and latest chapter normally I always assumed these NPCs only appeared if you had access to the content, but you are still bothered about the card game when you do not own High Isle, why did they do it this way?
  • Deter1UK
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    TaSheen wrote: »
    @Deter1UK - here you go:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7754378/#Comment_7754378
    Bekkael wrote: »
    Also, @SammyKhajit , I just conceded the card game, and the quest progressed with no problem, but I share your annoyance about how that was shoehorned in there.

    Ahh thank you. I did not know you could concede. I just sat here hitting random buttons till I lost 40-0 and then went for a soothing cup of tea.

  • ForumBully
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    There are some lines that I used to mutter to myself, along with the NPC, every time I was in certain areas...almost like a habit or a nervous tick from being subjected to it so many times.
    I'd love the option to stop the madness, but I know that stuff is there for those experiencing the world with fresh eyes (and ears). Some day they'll hate it too.
  • MissPan3024
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    So….even though I loved Vivec City for crafting, shopping and hiring guild traders, I moved all 12 of my characters to a little quest locked city with no quest givers harassing me. I’ve been hiring cheaper traders in smaller cities, shopping less and actually saving a lot of gold this way. 🙂
  • Kite42
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    Good to hear. Maybe one day we'll get personalized black sacraments:

    "Hear ye, card sharps and coll...gkth..krrgh..ngth.."

    [choking on blood in Breton]

    But until then, do you know how long I've been looking for you?
  • FantasticFreddie
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    So….even though I loved Vivec City for crafting, shopping and hiring guild traders, I moved all 12 of my characters to a little quest locked city with no quest givers harassing me. I’ve been hiring cheaper traders in smaller cities, shopping less and actually saving a lot of gold this way. 🙂

    Where is this? Asking for a friend
  • Kisakee
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    Kite42 wrote: »
    Good to hear. Maybe one day we'll get personalized black sacraments:

    "Hear ye, card sharps and coll...gkth..krrgh..ngth.."

    [choking on blood in Breton]

    But until then, do you know how long I've been looking for you?

    If they become killable i'll be your #1 contact on PC EU, call me anytime if you want to get rid of any NPC. For a small fee i offer executions in any style you want, including "special" requests like wearing a pink dino plush suit while doing so.
    I'm but a sarcastic beef jerky. Irony and cynicism are my parents. You've been warned.
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