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Cyrillic

  • Tristis Oris
    Who say about localization?
  • Gisgo
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    Brakkar wrote: »
    Because they pissed pretty much everyone at some point in history, so no wonder :)

    Who didnt?
    And to be very fair the Russians won WWII.
    If you know history, that is...
    Edited by Gisgo on May 1, 2014 9:24AM
  • AlliN
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    And to be very fair the Russians won WWII.

    Well, winter did, mostly, and not the first time.

    But I do agree Russian players should have their own RU server, not restricted to it, but as a choice if they want to use cyrilic all the time for example. It's not that EU server will solve latency problems for them due to the country size.
    Edited by AlliN on May 1, 2014 9:28AM
  • Tristis Oris
    it seems every country has its own history of the world.
  • Gisgo
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    Its more like the US having their own version of history...

    I suggest you to watch "Oliver Stone untold history of the United States" and get a clue.

    And sorry for bringing politic here.
  • Sinoby
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    So much misonception here... Saying that support of Cyrillic should not be added because nobody likes Russians is extremely stupid. A lot of countries are using Cyrillic letters in their native languages, and not having support of it makes this players to use transliteration in chat for comunicating.
    Don't forget - we are all equal paying customers, and no support of UTF8 limits a lot of EU players.
  • Guizan
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    With support of UTF all be able to communicate in their own language among themselves. It is very important for guilds and friends. Transliteration is terrible. I do not know Spanish, Italian and etc., but their alphabet consists of Latin, and they have no such problems.

    Not sure but do all their special characters work?

    Like Ñ ñ ¡ ¿ ?

    For us Swedes Å and å is missing.





  • Tristis Oris
    UTF it's a Unicode table, which support all symbols that exist. All problems are only implementation.
  • Neitro
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    i am against this as well. Preferably id suggest any and all public chats should be english only and misuse should have repercussions.

    Oh and im from Finland. I speak Swedish,Finnish,English & French. It is not too much to ask people to publicly speak english.

    Considering its an international game. I will never ever respond to the french people trying to talk to me in group chat after a LFG grouped me up with them even though i understand and speak their language.
    Edited by Neitro on May 1, 2014 9:38AM
  • Tristis Oris
    Neitro wrote: »
    It is not too much to ask people to publicly speak english.

    Speak on english in russian guild with russian people? you are genius.
  • KORJ
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    +1 ADD CYRILLIC
    FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
  • ElSlayer
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    Gisgo wrote: »
    And why does it bother you, if i may ask?
    nobody love russian)
    This.

    I am Russian by myself and I hate Russian.
    No really. I am 100% serious.

    I hate Russian mentality.
    IMO there are much more % of trolls and mannerless people among Russian compared to other nations.
    Every one of them thinks he's the smartest, which leads to care attitude to others.

    I don't want to see chat filled with same WTB/LFG spam duplicated in several languages.

    Many Russian do not speak English, and even bad in grammar of their own language. I don't want my eyes bleed because of their messages.

    I know that from an economic point of view support of cyrillic provide a significant influx of players into the game and money for ZOS, but... please, no.

    You knew that this game supports only three languages when you bought it. Now you have problems with that. Who is to blame, but yourself?
    @d0e1ow: There is no singular thing within a game's little ecosystem that will convince you that you hate the game, hate your life, and hate everyone around you faster than the game's official forums will.

    @TaffyIX: Life is too short to get upset by a video game.
  • Sinoby
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    Neitro wrote: »
    i am against this as well. Preferably id suggest any and all public chats should be english only and misuse should have repercussions.

    Oh and im from Finland. I speak Swedish,Finnish,English & French. It is not too much to ask people to publicly speak english.

    Considering its an international game. I will never ever respond to the french people trying to talk to me in group chat after a LFG grouped me up with them even though i understand and speak their language.
    I am afraid you've missed the point. I would prefer if every language had it's own chat chanell, and general zone chat should remain EN. But the point of this thread is to request support of a whole group of letters that are used in languages of countries where the game has officially launched.
  • Brakkar
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    Go ahead, add it for guilds but BAN from zone chat.
    Want a game with russian in chat, go play Allods :)
  • Tristis Oris
    Game is not support 3 languages, game is translated for 3 languages. It's not the same.
  • Gisgo
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    ElSlayer wrote: »
    I am Russian by myself and I hate Russian.
    No really. I am 100% serious.

    I dont doubt it.
    I am Italian and i hate the italian community.
    This said, i wouldnt want to keep Russians and/or Italians (that includes you and me) on a different server.

    Btw i played with plenty of Russians on Planetside2 and they are generally fun people to play with.

  • Sinoby
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    Brakkar wrote: »
    Go ahead, add it for guilds but BAN from zone chat.
    Want a game with russian in chat, go play Allods :)
    And who are you to tell others what to do?
    Again, issue is the fact, that there is no support of all UTF8 characters in chat and not people speaking specific language in chat. I may not like the fact,m that I see constant DE and FR in global zone chat, but I keep my concerns to myslef because those people are equal to me in their right to play the game the way they see fit (if it doesn't limit my ability to enjoy the game).
  • ElSlayer
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    Sinoby wrote: »
    So much misonception here... Saying that support of Cyrillic should not be added because nobody likes Russians is extremely stupid.
    Why? People want to isolate them from other people they dislike. This is effective tool to achieve this goal. Why should they care?
    Sinoby wrote: »
    I may not like the fact,m that I see constant DE and FR in global zone chat, but I keep my concerns to myslef because those people are equal to me in their right to play the game the way they see fit (if it doesn't limit my ability to enjoy the game).
    Unfortunately, seeing cyrillic in chat will limit mine.
    I don't want it to happen so I won't keep my concerns to myself so ZOS could see it (I doubt it) and keep it in mind.
    Edited by ElSlayer on May 1, 2014 9:59AM
    @d0e1ow: There is no singular thing within a game's little ecosystem that will convince you that you hate the game, hate your life, and hate everyone around you faster than the game's official forums will.

    @TaffyIX: Life is too short to get upset by a video game.
  • Brakkar
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    Ok, lets make it clear.
    I agree that you guys should have your own server.
    I am strongly against to adding russian translation to EU megaserver and giving you ability to write in cyrylica in /zone chats.
  • Hexi
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    I sincerely hope they never, ever add this. In every game it's the same thing, you guys completely take over all chats with your spam that only you can read until no one else can be bothered to use the chats anymore.

    Learn English like the rest of us non-English speaking people.

    Nothing against you guys, but it ruins the chat channels for everyone else.
    Edited by Hexi on May 1, 2014 9:57AM
  • Sinoby
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    ElSlayer wrote: »
    Sinoby wrote: »
    So much misonception here... Saying that support of Cyrillic should not be added because nobody likes Russians is extremely stupid.
    Why? People want to isolate them from other people they dislike. This is effective tool to achieve this goal. Why should they care?

    I am not Russian, and yet I understand Russian and Ukrainian along with English. The game launch was world-wide (well, except for China),and the game is officially available in my country. As long as ZOS is fine with taking my money for service, I shall be able to voice my concerns with the game:
    Some people prefer to use their native language while comunicating with other people that understand that language. It is their right and they should be able to do so.
  • Hexi
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    Sinoby wrote: »
    ElSlayer wrote: »
    Sinoby wrote: »
    So much misonception here... Saying that support of Cyrillic should not be added because nobody likes Russians is extremely stupid.
    Why? People want to isolate them from other people they dislike. This is effective tool to achieve this goal. Why should they care?

    I am not Russian, and yet I understand Russian and Ukrainian along with English. The game launch was world-wide (well, except for China),and the game is officially available in my country. As long as ZOS is fine with taking my money for service, I shall be able to voice my concerns with the game:
    Some people prefer to use their native language while comunicating with other people that understand that language. It is their right and they should be able to do so.

    Your rights are left at the login screen. Not single person has a single right to anything in-game. Get that delusion out of your head.

    If they decide that using any other language besides English is a bannable offense you have no say in the matter, neither does any courts. You can either accept it leave but you don't have a single right to do anything within the game, you have priviliges.

    Edited by Hexi on May 1, 2014 10:02AM
  • Censorious
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    What we really need is automatic translation.
    My browser does a fair job of translating text. Something like that would be most useful.
    Of course it would depend on people being able to write properly (In their own language, mind - that's not guaranteed)
    'Clever' sigs get old real fast - just like this one.
  • Sinoby
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    Hexi wrote: »

    Your rights are left at the login screen. Not single person has a single right to anything in-game. Get that delusion out of your head.
    Lol, no.
  • Gisgo
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    Censorious wrote: »
    What we really need is automatic translation.

    If they were smart they would copy from final fantasy (11 and 14) and its autotranslating function.
    With no more than 50 autotranslated words you can very well organize the pvp.

  • ElSlayer
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    Censorious wrote: »
    What we really need is automatic translation.
    My browser does a fair job of translating text. Something like that would be most useful.
    Of course it would depend on people being able to write properly (In their own language, mind - that's not guaranteed)
    You can not automatically translate from Russian without errors. At least Google Translate fails all the time when sentence is more complex than "I take a shower every day". IMO Russian is much more complex than English in general.
    @d0e1ow: There is no singular thing within a game's little ecosystem that will convince you that you hate the game, hate your life, and hate everyone around you faster than the game's official forums will.

    @TaffyIX: Life is too short to get upset by a video game.
  • razieltrutheb17_ESO
    razieltrutheb17_ESO
    Soul Shriven
    Hexi wrote: »
    I sincerely hope they never, ever add this. In every game it's the same thing, you guys completely take over all chats with your spam that only you can read until no one else can be bothered to use the chats anymore.

    Learn English like the rest of us non-English speaking people.

    Nothing against you guys, but it ruins the chat channels for everyone else.

    Just use ignor.

  • Hexi
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    Sinoby wrote: »
    Hexi wrote: »

    Your rights are left at the login screen. Not single person has a single right to anything in-game. Get that delusion out of your head.
    Lol, no.

    Oh my! What a convincing and well thought-out post! Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?

  • Hexi
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    Hexi wrote: »
    I sincerely hope they never, ever add this. In every game it's the same thing, you guys completely take over all chats with your spam that only you can read until no one else can be bothered to use the chats anymore.

    Learn English like the rest of us non-English speaking people.

    Nothing against you guys, but it ruins the chat channels for everyone else.

    Just use ignor.

    It has a limit.

  • Tristis Oris
    Brakkar wrote: »
    I am strongly against to adding russian translation to EU megaserver and giving you ability to write in cyrylica in /zone chats.

    you know the difference between the translation of the game and the ability to type in chat letters of different languages​​?
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