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Best Training Gear

Billium813
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Dark Convergence and PlagueBreak are together the best training sets in the game. Change my mind.
  • El_Borracho
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    Why would anyone spend a minimum of 300 transmute crystals (2 weapons, 3 jewelry, 7 body) to craft training gear?
  • Billium813
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    Why would anyone spend a minimum of 300 transmute crystals (2 weapons, 3 jewelry, 7 body) to craft training gear?

    You don't need to transmute necessarily. It's really cheap to purchase from guild traders. You can get both sets in Training for like 5k per piece.
  • colossalvoids
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    Why would anyone spend a minimum of 300 transmute crystals (2 weapons, 3 jewelry, 7 body) to craft training gear?

    If you have enough saved up it's not that big of a deal, remember creating training pfg/sorrow and monster set when cp 2.0 hit live servers, zero regrets.
  • phaneub17_ESO
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    Why would anyone spend a minimum of 300 transmute crystals (2 weapons, 3 jewelry, 7 body) to craft training gear?

    When you're done with it, you get those transmute crystals back!
  • Zodiarkslayer
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    Dark Convergence and PlagueBreak are together the best training sets in the game. Change my mind.

    No. Sounds strong, but what abilities do uou use?
    You would need something that does direct damage and leaves a ground effect.
    Stampede, Blazing Spear maybe? 🤔

    Wouldn't Heartland Conqueror be better instead of one of the above sets? You know, because you get more experience? 😳
    If anyone here says: OH! But, PVP! I swear I'll ...

    Thank you for the valuable input and respectfully recommend to discuss that aspect of ESO on the PVP forum.
  • mocap
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    Wouldn't Heartland Conqueror be better instead of one of the above sets? You know, because you get more experience? 😳
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    Heartland is best set for training atm, cuz of +18% exp.
  • Billium813
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    Dark Convergence and PlagueBreak are together the best training sets in the game. Change my mind.

    No. Sounds strong, but what abilities do uou use?
    You would need something that does direct damage and leaves a ground effect.
    Stampede, Blazing Spear maybe? 🤔

    Wouldn't Heartland Conqueror be better instead of one of the above sets? You know, because you get more experience? 😳

    With Dark Convergence and PlagueBreaker, you can clear groups 10x faster. Heartland does increase the Training trait, but does nothing much else to help you actually kill things.
  • Zodiarkslayer
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    Billium813 wrote: »
    Dark Convergence and PlagueBreak are together the best training sets in the game. Change my mind.

    No. Sounds strong, but what abilities do uou use?
    You would need something that does direct damage and leaves a ground effect.
    Stampede, Blazing Spear maybe? 🤔

    Wouldn't Heartland Conqueror be better instead of one of the above sets? You know, because you get more experience? 😳

    With Dark Convergence and PlagueBreaker, you can clear groups 10x faster. Heartland does increase the Training trait, but does nothing much else to help you actually kill things.

    That is what I was expecting, but I think you will need a spot where you can get respawns fast enough to outpace the comparative loss on XP.
    Which would be your places?

    Otherwise you are only getting the 9% loss vs Heartland Conqueror faster.

    Or am I not seeing something here?
    If anyone here says: OH! But, PVP! I swear I'll ...

    Thank you for the valuable input and respectfully recommend to discuss that aspect of ESO on the PVP forum.
  • Billium813
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    With Dark Convergence and PlagueBreaker, you can clear groups 10x faster. Heartland does increase the Training trait, but does nothing much else to help you actually kill things.

    That is what I was expecting, but I think you will need a spot where you can get respawns fast enough to outpace the comparative loss on XP.
    Which would be your places?

    Otherwise you are only getting the 9% loss vs Heartland Conqueror faster.

    Or am I not seeing something here?

    I usually run around SpellScar. DC pulls them together, Plaguebreak wipes them out (including the Atronachs).
  • mocap
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    just grab Occult Overload passive and spam Unstable wall(mag) or Stampede(stam) for leveling. Best spot is zombies at Alikr (northeast).

    Also, getting low level Dark Convergence and Plaguebreaker sets can be difficult. There are few sells on TTC, but not enough.
  • CompM4s
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    I personally recommend just using any combination you want of craftable sets. Cheap and easy to make.
  • etchedpixels
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    For spellscar farming I use mad tinkerer and either mother's sorrow (classes with decent self heal) or winters respite if not.
    Add two pieces of trainee (on the chest/legs if you are new to it and struggle with survivability in nuke mode) and off you go. No dungeon sets needed, and the sets are all dirtt cheap. For pure training boost heartland conqueror is good as it doubles the effect of the training trait on weapons.

    DC is a good option for stam if it's a character after you've got all the gear - you can then combine dark convergence and titanic cleave which with shalks on a warden is basically lawnmower mode. Shalks, proc it with a warden heal, titanic cleave, boom. Caltrops is even better but most lower levels won't have access to that.

    Too many toons not enough time
  • El_Borracho
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    Why would anyone spend a minimum of 300 transmute crystals (2 weapons, 3 jewelry, 7 body) to craft training gear?

    If you have enough saved up it's not that big of a deal, remember creating training pfg/sorrow and monster set when cp 2.0 hit live servers, zero regrets.

    I suppose. But I typically use training gear to get to Level 50 then dump it.

    @Billium813 Not bagging on the sets, love them. Just thought it was interesting to use transmutes to build training gear, or gold for that matter. Guess it depends how much you have of each. I tend to use my transmutes making alt sets for characters now with the armory
  • etchedpixels
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    For sets get all the pieces of the few sets you level in, even if you buy trash versions of it from guild stores cheap. It now costs 25 crystals to make a piece, and you get 25 back when you decon it. This means every few levels you just decon and recon the gear. Even if you do it on the same toon for convenience that toon only needs to know the one trait in each item worn.

    In fact it's not even worth repairing gear in this situation because it's cheaper to reconstruct it. Only when you've got gear improved to a higher colour than its default does that change.
    Otherwise you are only getting the 9% loss vs Heartland Conqueror faster.

    Solo spellscar may well be slower with HC. I can believe the trade off. Many low level and newer players can't solo spellscar though. Mind you I'd strongly argue that burning to 50 as a newbie is a really bad idea because you are actually losing all the level buffs designed to help you learn to play before you hit endgame.
    Too many toons not enough time
  • Krayl
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    I have an XP grind toon that is a high elf (1% XP) templar in heartland conquerer (+18% weapon xp) and deadly strikes with 7 x training (70%) and Mora's Whispers with all books collected (15%)

    +104% xp bonus before you even factor in anything outside of gear and the altmer bonus.

    . . .and trash packs in spellscar die so fast it doesn't really matter what you're wearing, so IDK why you would go for more damage over more xp if grinding is your goal.

  • Billium813
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    PlagueBreak + Dark Convergence, all Training, no other XP buffs. With this, I got 1,752,945XP in an hour at Spellscar.

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  • mocap
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    ok, i see. You can reconstruct low level items if you learned at lest one trait. For all armor parts, 1-2 weapons, and 2 jewelry, so it will take some time even with research scrolls. But then you can make few sets like lvl 15 and level 35 for future leveling character and enjoy easy EXP grind.

    Yet i still recomend to use Heartland with Darc Conv. Rest of damage can be easily obtained from Occultist Overload passive.
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    Unless things have changed recently, I still think nBRP is the best farm spot for XP. For that, it really is more about single target than AOE. Just something to think about. You could get way more than 1.75 million XP per hour. 8+ mil an hour with a good partner was very doable during an event.

    But admittedly, its been over a year since I have done it. I would use a single target sorc build to range nuke adds as they spawn.

    Admittedly, that combo does look like a lot of fun.
    Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on August 15, 2022 7:57PM
  • Gargath
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    PlagueBreak + Dark Convergence, all Training, no other XP buffs. With this, I got 1,752,945XP in an hour at Spellscar.

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    I agree it's extremely effective pve bomb build - rapid explosions make nice effect. PlagueBreak is a wonderful, powerful set, currently my favourite. I paired with Venomous Smite and play StamPlar Dunmer. Lethal Arrow, Occult Overload, BitingJabs when mobs already have gathered around...
    Today I soloed the Spellscar and some Craglorn delves for a first time and I'm really surprised how easy this experience was and how fast. No other build I tried had such potential and offered such atomic speed in killing mobs.
    PC EU (PL): 14 characters. ESO player since 06.08.2015. Farkas finest quote: "Some people don't think I'm smart. Those people get my fist. But you, I like."
  • mocap
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    Unless things have changed recently, I still think nBRP is the best farm spot for XP
    it is. Too many spike damage there, however. More like vMA build needed out there, rather than full AoE or single target.
  • Billium813
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    Gargath wrote: »
    I agree it's extremely effective pve bomb build - rapid explosions make nice effect. PlagueBreak is a wonderful, powerful set, currently my favourite. I paired with Venomous Smite and play StamPlar Dunmer. Lethal Arrow, Occult Overload, BitingJabs when mobs already have gathered around...
    Today I soloed the Spellscar and some Craglorn delves for a first time and I'm really surprised how easy this experience was and how fast. No other build I tried had such potential and offered such atomic speed in killing mobs.

    The explosion and plague popping is extremely satisfying too xD

    I went back to Spellscar the other day and ran with a friend (who was just there for the buff) and all the XP buffs (minus an event buff) and was able to clear 2.5mil XP in 1 hour. That was with a good route and minimal people interrupting the pulls too. I ended up having like 6 other, non-grouped people following me around to get XP too. I don't know how that works with my XP, but I was averaging about 30k XP per group.

    The biggest downside to Spellscar is the people. They ruin pulls and just make your grinding not as efficient. If you can go on low population times, and get lucky, it's really a great XP grinding site. It may not be as "optimal" as BRP, but it doesn't require special knowledge of the arena, or hiring someone to take you, or risking deaths. Just pull multiple groups together (not too far away!) and nuke the site from orbit with DC + PlagueBreak!
    Edited by Billium813 on August 21, 2022 7:21PM
  • h9dlb
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    If you need training gear your mounts probably aren't trained, so I say adept rider set
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