Are there unwritten rules or am I blind?

starkerealm

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

We don't want information resurfacing that may be out of date. That can confuse players and also have us chasing things that may no longer exist. For example, let's say there is a two year untouched old thread about the balance of a dungeon boss. Going into the thread and noting the current balance doesn't make sense there. You are better off making a new thread.

I've got an actual example of this: About five years ago, I had someone absolutely unload on me in a necroed thread. The discussion was on werewolves, and, in particular, the absolutely bonkers bit that simply being a werewolf increased your Stam Recovery by 15%. Thing is, my post had originally been written in 2014 (before 1.4 or 1.5, when that bonus was moved to the ult.) I can't remember if they specifically necroed the thread to go off on me, or if it was incidental. Somewhat obviously, the thread was deep sixed because of the necro, and their behavior was actioned, but, yeah, there is a real purpose to this policy, in case anyone wanted a more tangible case.

starkerealm

It would be nice if there was a way to, immediately, visually date posts on the boards (yes, I know the rough age of the post is in the upper right corner, but people tend to miss that.) For example, if the board layout was based off the era when the post was originally made (the boards have had around 7 different themes over the years), because those necroed threads can be a nice dose of nostalgia at times, and if there was an easy way to immediately see that a post was from seven or eight years ago, it could help to see where the game has been. (I'm making this suggestion, but I seriously suspect it's flat out impossible to do this in the forum software.)

TheGent

if a thread is over a year old, why not just delete it instead of waiting til someone posts in it which is bound to happen sooner or later. Alot of posts come back as the first result when you search up somthing for ESO on Google. I have had 2 issues i searched send me here only to post and have it deleted the next day lol

Destai

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

@Destai I see your point raised here. I will check in with the team, but I'm willing to bet it's because of how the thread was framed. It started in 2020 and was framed regarding a potential new class for 2021, which did not happen. I do think it's fair to start a new thread for those who want to speculate a potential new class in general.

Also just want to note that one of the recent comments was from a user who did make an updated thread in June of this year on the new class topic.

That’s fine but people aren’t going to always see that. People might search for something and find a thread that resonates with them, or pick top of stack. For example, I just searched for "new class" and the first couple results are from 4+ years ago.

Regarding the framing - the core issue is unchanged. There's been no new class. So my take away from this is we can't put dates around thread because that'll make it framed as non-Evergreen. Am I understanding that correctly? Can we get framing rules in writing now too?

Meanwhile, why does this need to be a focus over people asking for acknowledgment on QOL requests?

Destai

TheGent wrote: »

if a thread is over a year old, why not just delete it instead of waiting til someone posts in it which is bound to happen sooner or later. Alot of posts come back as the first result when you search up somthing for ESO on Google. I have had 2 issues i searched send me here only to post and have it deleted the next day lol

Nevermind the fact that on mobile “last” is after page 1, it’s super easy to find something super old.

spartaxoxo

It's really not a major issue, and there's a lot of good threads that get lost or ruined when there's such a hamfisted policy.

StabbityDoom

I actually agree with @ZOS_Kevin that some subforums, such as housing, have entire threads that are not time-sensitive (someone showing off their build, ideas for cobbles, suggestions, etc) and "necroing" them makes sense sometimes. I have a whole thread on EHT addon training, and as new things come along, I add to it, but the old stuff is still accurate and relevant to people who want to learn.

Once Kevin gave the explanation for the flexibility of the rule, it made sense. People don't get in trouble for reviving a dead thread, the only thing that happens is the mod closes it if they think it is confusing or outdated. So there's no harm in it, and it wouldn't really betray the code of conduct - you aren't violating anything - there's just a "better way" sometimes.

Maybe just spelling out the reasoning somewhere centralized, or even with the COC just for accessibility's sake, would be enough to satisfy those who prefer hard rules.