8.1.1 - we do not need to worry or ... ?

JustAGoodPlayer

Not a lot of thingth changed. There was a lot of buged sets on PTS that was not fixed. If so - i think that DOT time will be restored to live values ? And changes will be big from current 8.1.0 PTS patch ?

Or ... we are just all doomed .... doooomed ?

shadyjane62

The dragon still bugged over North Elsweyr. Flapping its wings yelling insults.

alternatelder

Week 2 is always just minor. Week 3 is set for more combat adjustments.

JustAGoodPlayer

I hope patch will be OK for all players. not only 1 players (meta as always) - will be even more buffed and other nerfed ?

With current love to HA players will my DPS be about 0 ? ) Or may be i alrady can get some normal DPS ? )))

At least how i already had before ? Better before you nerf us after buffing LA with hybridization.

Or again META will have even more DPS about 130k+ and all other players lose from 10k to 50 k DPS ? )))

I already feel my self AS top dps player ! Each time you nerf them - I lose damage !

))

SpacemanSpiff1

everything is going to be fine. trust in zos

Mr_Stach

SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »

trust in zos

JustAGoodPlayer

SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »

everything is going to be fine. trust in zos

I try. But i lose DPS each update, so my trust needs a buff.

Thats why i am on forum again.

The reason is always the same - skills not work, some thing broken ... .

Just need to get my DPS and Undaunted Infiltrator - not "THIS" - back and i will go away

SapAndFury

I predict a minor acquiescence in week 3 followed by a doubling down in week 4.

BloodMagicLord

Week 3 and 5 are normally when major changes will come, if there are going to be any. 2 and 4 are always just minor bugfixes or adding missing DLC content.

merpins

SapAndFury wrote: »

I predict a minor acquiescence in week 3 followed by a doubling down in week 4.

They tend to do that. It's either that or using our words against us to make a change we didn't ask for in week 3, then getting rid of that change in week 4 and saying "we did it!" as to get people to not pay attention to the issues.

starkerealm

alternatelder wrote: »

Week 2 is always just minor. Week 3 is set for more combat adjustments.

We are supposed to get an announcement this week about what they plan.

acastanza_ESO

starkerealm wrote: »

alternatelder wrote: »

Week 2 is always just minor. Week 3 is set for more combat adjustments.

We are supposed to get an announcement this week about what they plan.

Where did you hear this? All I've heard are vague platitudes that I'm sure are covering for an intent to completely ignore us and blindly plow ahead.

sbr32

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

alternatelder wrote: »

Week 2 is always just minor. Week 3 is set for more combat adjustments.

We are supposed to get an announcement this week about what they plan.

Where did you hear this? All I've heard are vague platitudes that I'm sure are covering for an intent to completely ignore us and blindly plow ahead.

From Kevin over the weekend

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi All, we want to follow up on the conversations around the U35 combat changes. First, thanks to everyone who have tested the changes and provided detailed and constructive hands-on feedback. We have been reading your feedback and reviewing the testing data since PTS launched earlier this week, and we are continuing that process. We are exploring some adjustments based on testing findings for PTS week 3 and beyond. We’ll share details about those next week.

We also ask that players please keep in mind that PTS is a test server. Numbers presented in PTS1 are often different than what appears in PTS5. Keeping this in mind, we’ll continue to review feedback and make adjustments as needed.

Thanks for your continued patience as we continue our testing on the PTS - please keep the hands-on feedback coming.

redlink1979

Wait for next week.

Mr_Stach

redlink1979 wrote: »

Wait for next week.

But I waited for next week last week

pklemming

The biggest concern is that this reached week 2. I am not sure how many people they want to leave the game. This patch in any form, will not be good.

When you push a patch, the subsequent weeks are for tweaking items. There is nothing here that can 'make this right' with minor changes.

Worse, they are on a deadline. So week 3 changes we get to test and feedback, by week 5 it is a fait accompli, and they will push this abberation live, regardless.

The best thing they could do is accept this is a mistake, withdraw it before they lose too many more people and rework the changes in the background for a potential future patch.

Reintroduce class reps, have them help.

Add a tutorial on weaving.

Stop attempting to balance pvp and pve (mag wardens need pen, my %$#).

ccfeeling

If Dev plan to nerf overall dps 20% , they do nerf 30% at week 1.

So no worry , they already have the answer at day 1 .

starkerealm

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

alternatelder wrote: »

Week 2 is always just minor. Week 3 is set for more combat adjustments.

We are supposed to get an announcement this week about what they plan.

Where did you hear this? All I've heard are vague platitudes that I'm sure are covering for an intent to completely ignore us and blindly plow ahead.

Yeah, pretty much that.

JustAGoodPlayer

And - no answer !!!

So we better start worry again )))

renne

Oh no, we ABSOLUTELY have to worry.

JustAGoodPlayer

Yes i start worry too again.

At least some information what developers plan to do and how he plan to do it can be great thing to make players not worry that much or fix a problem even before pts-3 when it will appear.

ESO_Nightingale

funny joke, but i'm not laughing

Vicquemare

Wait a minute, so there's only gonna be 2 tickets per day during upcoming Undaunted event?
Also Ilambris mask and weapons will be available for the second time this year?

JustAGoodPlayer

To not worry i have an idea to you. Do not be dissapointed, do not leave the game.
Do not fear changes.

If it will be really bad this is what as a players we can do:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/612226/dear-zos-and-players-with-not-popular-builds#latest

May be if for last 3 years only bad updates are comming we can try some siege tacticks than, until the game will not become better.

People are very motivated, when you ask them to do some thing normally for a lot of times - when to make becomes more easy than to hear about your problems every single day !

We need to be polit and constructive.
May be they just forget about us for this last 3 years ? )))

So do not be dessapointed. Do not fear - you always have options. But may be for good changes we just need to wait a little. And you already wait for so long.

Ishtarknows

Vicquemare wrote: »

Wait a minute, so there's only gonna be 2 tickets per day during upcoming Undaunted event?
Also Ilambris mask and weapons will be available for the second time this year?

There's always been only 2 tickets per day from the undaunted event.

JanTanhide

Don't get your hopes up for not going through with U35. The entire patch is detrimental to ESO. The best thing for ZOS to do is cancel U35 completely and stop it with these radical changes every three months.

People are burned out with so many changes every three months. Give it a rest.

JustAGoodPlayer

I agree with you.

All they now do is nerfing players DPS.

But some trials was already made for such DPS - it is not possible to pass it other way.

To make it possible to pass players need damage.

Some builds have 120k dps, some have 90+ k DPS.

When you nerf builds - players who already do less DPS get nerfs, but top DPS do not get it.

So people who had 90 k dps get nerf of DPS to 70k and can not pass content, because you put time limit in it !

And was that players with 90k DPS a problem - no they was not !
If you want to nerf DPS - nerf players with 120 K DPS, NOT US !

Or buff all other players DPS, i even wright how to do it !

HA gives buff to all damage for 3 seconds.
LA buffs next LA and skill buff next skill per 10% damage that is all !

If you use Skill-la-skill you get no buff, because LA is already a free damage !

Builds that are focused on only LA or HA lose a lot of stats and or can do less skills or only spam LA, so they already lose some damage from such buildings !!!

And you nerf it even more ?

Stop nerf to classes and CP already !

If you want to make it better - better nerf the stars COST that stars you already nerfed. Or better revert changes !

I already even wright how it is possible to do:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/611879/guide-for-zos-how-to-nerf-others-better#latest

Make LA buff next LA, skill buff next skill HA buff all damage per next 3 seconds as example on 10%.

LA + Skill players get nothing from it, because if you do LA betwin skills you get no buff and the same skill between LAs a lot of other builds get buff.

Holycannoli

The only way I'll be happy at this point is if next week's notes say "We are reverting all combat changes, and will find another way to give Nightblade the buffs it needs. We are sorry we came to such bone-headed decisions with this proposed patch and are working on preventing it for the future."

JustAGoodPlayer

If it will not be reverted i will wright to them my "briliant ideas" every single day !

And i hope others will do the same.

Elsonso

Mr_Stach wrote: »

redlink1979 wrote: »

Wait for next week.

But I waited for next week last week

That's the great thing about waiting for next week. It's a repeatable quest!

Holycannoli wrote: »

The only way I'll be happy at this point is if next week's notes say "We are reverting all combat changes, and will find another way to give Nightblade the buffs it needs. We are sorry we came to such bone-headed decisions with this proposed patch and are working on preventing it for the future."

If that happens, Satan is going to be on Amazon ordering space heaters!

I am expecting them to push forward with "more adjustments in future patches and updates". Thus, rather than ending the cycle, they start a new one.

JustAGoodPlayer

I do not understand why it is so hard for them to fix a problem.

It is not really some thing difficult to do.