New two rider mount looks really bad (clipping)

Kadraeus

Magenpie wrote: »

I so wish they would redo the horse model. It's dreadful and they are expecting people to pay a lot of money for them. How could they get them so right in Skyrim but get them so atrociously wrong in ESO?

The latest mount is particularly awful. The back legs look like they are made of rubber, and the head is all wrong for a supposedly large charger. Terrible and ugly.

They aren't the same developers. And honestly, I don't see how it's "terrible." That's a bit of a stretch. Most people aren't even going to notice these things. They're pretty minor issues, not like the entire thing needs to be thrown in the trash like people are making it out to be.

SickleCider

I have...so many questions...

Pinch me if that horse ain't named Murphy, because the law definitely happened all over him.

Magenpie

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Magenpie wrote: »

I so wish they would redo the horse model. It's dreadful and they are expecting people to pay a lot of money for them. How could they get them so right in Skyrim but get them so atrociously wrong in ESO?

Right in Skyrim? Even those are a bit wonky! The best horses in Elder Scrolls belong to IV: Oblivion.

Honestly, Bethesda/ZOS needs to go look at actual horses and redo the model from the ground up. Not just splash new paint on the same old rickety building.
Almost every other game made in the latest decade has better horses.

Agree with you on everything but I stand by my Skyrim statement.

You might not like their shaggy sturdy look, but they are some of the most 'horsey' horses in any game - based on Clydesdales I believe - I just wish they did more *stuff*. The horses in Oblivion were ok, but much improved by Alienslof's mod.

Magenpie

Kadraeus wrote: »

They aren't the same developers. And honestly, I don't see how it's "terrible." That's a bit of a stretch. Most people aren't even going to notice these things. They're pretty minor issues, not like the entire thing needs to be thrown in the trash like people are making it out to be.

ZoS spent quite a bit of time energy and money making ESO look *exactly* like Skyrim in terms of the landscapes, architecture, clothing etc. They improved on many of the wildlife models like wolves and bears. Why not the same standard for the horses?

FluffWit

Just saw the price and balked. I'll get it eventually though. Don't really care what it looks like.

FluffWit

Oh and before anyone buys it remember there are different ones coming too, including a Dwemer spider style one.

At 5k crowns I doubt many of us want to get more then one.

Carcamongus

That price looks a bit too much for a boring- and weird-looking horse. That being said, I'll just patiently wait for two-person stick mounts.

TaSheen

The best horses in Skyrim are from AlienSlof's mods. I don't have any need for a 2-person mount, just as well.

vesselwiththepestle

This horse is an abomination. What's up with the legs? Both back and front legs? Tails from Khajiit and Argonian riders just disappear. Please someone post some horse pictures, so ZOS might learn how those animals actually look like.

Kadraeus

Magenpie wrote: »

Kadraeus wrote: »

They aren't the same developers. And honestly, I don't see how it's "terrible." That's a bit of a stretch. Most people aren't even going to notice these things. They're pretty minor issues, not like the entire thing needs to be thrown in the trash like people are making it out to be.

ZoS spent quite a bit of time energy and money making ESO look *exactly* like Skyrim in terms of the landscapes, architecture, clothing etc. They improved on many of the wildlife models like wolves and bears. Why not the same standard for the horses?

This game looks nothing like Skyrim apart from the architecture in Western Skyrim and the Reach. And this isn't a question of "effort towards quality" like you're making it out to be. It 100% just looks like the person who sculpted the horse got the proportions wrong, which can happen because, surprise surprise, artists make mistakes that they don't notice even if they're professionals. It just so happens that the higher-ups didn't catch it either for one reason or another, so it got passed on to be implemented into the game as-is. Not really a big deal since it's just aesthetics. Not like this stuff's gonna be put in a museum lol.

And please don't reply to this saying stuff like, "Oh, so you think this is acceptable, and that they shouldn't change it at all, etc. etc."

Literally all I'm saying is all y'all unironically acting like it's this abomination from hell that needs to be discarded and remade from the ground up are being way too serious about this.

Irfind

....

Wolfpaw

Jaimeh wrote: »

The utter disrespect for the consumers, releasing something in such a state...

A deadline is a deadline I suppose. Hopefully a fix coming at a later update.

VoodooPlatypus

Maybe this model is just to make the 10k crown price tag of the spider mount more palatable.

Spell-Slinger

I feel like horses in ESO could be fixed with two things: fix the hind legs, and give the horses forelocks. The latter would be super easy - the Snow-Blanket Sorrel Horse already has the forelock, it's just that for some absurd reason no other horse in the game uses it. If those two things were fixed, horses would be good enough, and not look absurd.

In the case of this new mount though, the mane also needs some work. It's literally a flat texture, like come on, how lazy can you get?

meekmiko

Spell-Slinger wrote: »

I feel like horses in ESO could be fixed with two things: fix the hind legs, and give the horses forelocks. The latter would be super easy - the Snow-Blanket Sorrel Horse already has the forelock, it's just that for some absurd reason no other horse in the game uses it. If those two things were fixed, horses would be good enough, and not look absurd.

In the case of this new mount though, the mane also needs some work. It's literally a flat texture, like come on, how lazy can you get?

The original horse models had a forelock, but you have to have the absolutely massive ugly bags on the hips that the carry capacity upgrade adds to your horse juuuust to see it. (the stamina upgrade helmet-thing hides it.)
Haven't a clue why this is a thing, but it's been like that since the beginning.

Example:


And here's one with the massive carry bags showing just so you can see the forelock:

Faulgor

Apparently everyone but me knows what a horse's legs are supposed to look like, yet when I pointed out 10 years ago that the hands in Skyrim are all wrong, I was laughed out of town.

Am I living among centaurs? That's my only explanation.

BTW there should be centaurs in TES, I'm not sure why we haven't seen any set.

TaSheen

Well, I could post pictures of "real" horses, plus diagrams of horse anatomy (in this real world we live in) - but that's not really effective, as whoever chose to "reconfigure" horses for ESO probably considers the "look" appropriate in some way. Since no one's ever addressed it AFAIK, it's rather a moot point by this time.

AzuraFan

Regarding the price. It reminds me of the Oblivion mod Horse Armor lol.

biovitalb16_ESO

Yes it does look bad. 5,000 crowns for this is disgusting, this thing is so awful it should be free.

ArgonianAustin

I dont care how it looks! It could be a moving pretzel as long as its a 2 person mount but the fact that its 5k crowns so like 50$, i dont want to pay that! Thats ridiculous.

BloodyStigmata

This is why I keep telling you all to join the guar side.

SammyKhajit

Oh well. It would’ve been nice to ride with Ember or Isobel.

5000 crowns saved.

Lugaldu

Kadraeus wrote: »

Magenpie wrote: »

I so wish they would redo the horse model. It's dreadful and they are expecting people to pay a lot of money for them. How could they get them so right in Skyrim but get them so atrociously wrong in ESO?
The latest mount is particularly awful. The back legs look like they are made of rubber, and the head is all wrong for a supposedly large charger. Terrible and ugly.

They aren't the same developers. And honestly, I don't see how it's "terrible." That's a bit of a stretch. Most people aren't even going to notice these things. They're pretty minor issues, not like the entire thing needs to be thrown in the trash like people are making it out to be.

It is completely beyond me how it can even happen that such a completely unrealistic model is developed. And then it's an animal that's so common in Tamriel, and there's always been so many comments that the ESO horses look completely misshapen. Especially for people who had/have something to do with horses, the sight of these horses is just torture. And it is also such a big contrast to other animal models, some of which also have really good, realistic-looking animations - for example some cats, rolling on the ground or the rabbits.

Lapin_Logic

If this is the 2 person mount I just spent money on, I can't wait for the 4 person mount

M0ntie

This horse is just hideous! The hind legs looks like spaghetti and it looks malnorished. Also for the goodness sake can you make our characters half decent riders. They are hunched over and their toes are up - I'm embarrassed to be seen riding like this.
There is no way I'm buying such a horrible looking mount.

Here is what a ridden draught horse should look like and how the rider should be.

Coatmagic

Faulgor wrote: »

Apparently everyone but me knows what a horse's legs are supposed to look like, yet when I pointed out 10 years ago that the hands in Skyrim are all wrong, I was laughed out of town.

Am I living among centaurs? That's my only explanation.

BTW there should be centaurs in TES, I'm not sure why we haven't seen any set.

From the looks of that mount they are quite possibly otw soon xD

BTW, for reference:

FluffyBird

I don't care how wrong the anatomy is when the bandages on the hind legs are clipping so wildly. It shows absolutely zero quality control, which is, sadly, a usual thing now in ESO's cosmetics. I mean, either you can fix it, then fix it or can't, then don't sell that half-baked thing. I refuse to believe that no one noticed that clipping.

Not that I wanted any horses beside a pure-black slim horse (pls gib), but seeing such negligence just makes me terribly sad.

redlink1979

Yeah... Remember 6 years ago when they released the Dro-m'Athra senche for 4k crowns and everyone complained but the day after everyone in craglorn was riding one?

Lapin_Logic

If ESO horses were cars

SammyKhajit

This one consulted the companions on whether Sammy should buy the two-rider mount:

Ember: Why buy when we can steal it?

Bastian: There is something wrong with the horse. I can’t pinpoint the issue though…

Isobel: Look at its hind legs. Poor thing’s got the knee and mouth disease.

Mirri: When there is a Dwemer spider mount, and I get to drive!

The answer is still no….