Do you want romances in companions? And open world elements

Sevalaricgirl

DeltaForce64x wrote: »

Holycannoli wrote: »

Eh it gets cringey romancing pixels. I'm not necessarily opposed to it but it's just weird.

Cringey? [snip]

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Freelancer_ESO

I think you could do theoretically do it in an interesting fashion but, I think economics and the real world might get in the way.

SWTOR spent a significant chunk of it's dialogue on companion romances at perhaps the expense of other content.

You also run into the issue that players may not diversify their companion use much if they are romantically attached to one character.

Generally speaking in SWTOR on characters where I did the romance the other companions did not get used if I had a choice.

It forces you into the position of making everyone attracted to everyone which may not make great sense/appeal to everyone or leaving people mad they can't romance x or y.

For example, not everyone in universe is going to want to romance a Khajiit Male both from cultural reasons and physical reasons but, people aren't necessarily going to want to get rejected.

SWTOR also has varied faces for the companions so, your Vette isn't necessarily going to look like someone else's Vette vs ESO where everyone's Mirri has the same face that is always visible.

Syldras

DeltaForce64x wrote: »

Video games meant for people who dislike real life in some levels and throw away their real life stress by having fun and seeing things that isn't available in real life.

I see it as entertainment, not any different to books or movies. And in that aspect, I totally agree with @Treselegant , some people like romantic stories, some don't - I don't see anything wrong in adding romance to ESO companions, as long as it's fully optional and you are able to stop the flirting through a dialogue option.

Tandor wrote: »

so far as romancing with NPCs is concerned I'd say no, it's not what gaming should be about. However, I suspect that if ZOS put "cyber sex emotes" at a high price in the Crown Store they would be a best seller - which I find rather a depressing thought!

I'd find that depressing too, but I don't think this is what people have in mind if they talk about companion romance. I imagine it more as an emotional thing transported through dialogue. I mean, people flirt in real life, they form relationships, they marry - it would be realistic if your character would, optionally, be able to do the same. As one aspect of roleplay.

Tandor wrote: »

But don't a lot of players insist that it's the other way round? It's not the character that earns an achievement, it's the player - why would this be any different ?

I was against account-wide achievements, by the way, but still, I see a difference. Finishing a difficult trial, for example, requires technical skill from the player. It's about mechanics. While companion romance would be a part of storytelling that doesn't require any special skills.

Abelon

chessalavakia_ESO wrote: »

You also run into the issue that players may not diversify their companion use much if they are romantically attached to one character.
Generally speaking in SWTOR on characters where I did the romance the other companions did not get used if I had a choice.

I think many ESO players already refuse to use certain companions due to conflict with companions' likes and dislikes or due to personal taste. Bastian being an obvious example. But I don't see how that's an issue anyways. Players are free to ignore entire chapters, things like ToT, things like antiquities... Why should companions be any different? I don't want to diversify my companion use, I will run with my favorites. Alternatively you can always grind out their achievements and then drop them.

chessalavakia_ESO wrote: »

It forces you into the position of making everyone attracted to everyone which may not make great sense/appeal to everyone or leaving people mad they can't romance x or y.

For example, not everyone in universe is going to want to romance a Khajiit Male both from cultural reasons and physical reasons but, people aren't necessarily going to want to get rejected.

Skyrim didn't differentiate and that was the right way to do it, imo. Sure, there is racism in Nirn and there are preferences in Nirn... But it's not like ESO is some hyper realistic social experience. No need for companions to reject anyone.

_Zathras_

DeltaForce64x wrote: »

I know I know this isn't SWTOR, but a bit free roam pve and romances can be good in my opinion

From Rich in this interview, having romances with your companions is (was?) their plan:

On the Future of Companions

Speaking of what the team learned, can you talk about what sort of plans there are for Companions in the future?

I can't get into all the things we're planning, but one thing I will say is that we know everyone wants to be able to romance their companions. It would be a pretty big miss on our part if we don't deliver on that at some point in the future.

Marginis

The closest I'll ever get to the romance I want in ESO is flirting with Razum Dar, and I think I have to just be okay with that, because the alternative is having to see everyone walking around with their own Razum Dars and I don't think my heart can take that.

Crown_of_Antlers

My female Bosmer has been wishing for years that ZOS would release Lorchon into her custody. She has repeatedly promised to take good care of him.

SilverBride

I've run into many married NPCs in game. My characters would like to have a life partner, too and it makes sense that they may fall for their companion over time.

But... it would have to be a companion I find attractive and with qualities I can relate to. We don't have any of those to choose from yet.

colossalvoids

Eso is on low-key maintenance mode already for some years and we're paying for their next project basically, don't expect wonders especially from zenimax. We're getting base minimum of effort and it's not going to change dramatically anytime soon it seems.

Iselin

Not enough companions yet for viable romance options. It'd be like living in a small, isolated village and marrying your 3rd cousin because that's all there is

Sjestenka

francesinhalover wrote: »

I mean i have thought about having my character kiss isobel but tbh, i think it would be insanely weird.

You've already made your choice. Now you need to understand it.
That's from Matrix 4. Hue hue

TPishek

I'd rather there not be.

Holycannoli

Lugaldu wrote: »

Holycannoli wrote: »

Eh it gets cringey romancing pixels. I'm not necessarily opposed to it but it's just weird.

But it's not you who has the romance, it's your character and he has his own life!

Well then my "character" wants to "romance" Solding from The Everfull Flagon in Coldharbour lol.

Treselegant

But... it would have to be a companion I find attractive and with qualities I can relate to. We don't have any of those to choose from yet.

Players are free to ignore entire chapters, things like ToT, things like antiquities... Why should companions be any different?

I think they should add the optional content as they go along, as in updating what we currently have, and if it doesn't appeal to you you don't have to engage with it. As time goes by trying to get VAs scheduled in to do the lines needed probably becomes more awkward.

SilverBride

Treselegant wrote: »

But... it would have to be a companion I find attractive and with qualities I can relate to. We don't have any of those to choose from yet.

Players are free to ignore entire chapters, things like ToT, things like antiquities... Why should companions be any different?

I think they should add the optional content as they go along, as in updating what we currently have, and if it doesn't appeal to you you don't have to engage with it. As time goes by trying to get VAs scheduled in to do the lines needed probably becomes more awkward.

The idea of my character romancing a companion does appeal to me. That is why we need more options, so those who are interested can find a partner that appeals to them.

Tandor

colossalvoids wrote: »

Eso is on low-key maintenance mode already for some years and we're paying for their next project basically, don't expect wonders especially from zenimax. We're getting base minimum of effort and it's not going to change dramatically anytime soon it seems.

What total nonsense.

Ipsius

Absolutely no. It's weird enough seeing 15 Ember clones following everyone around. Adding the idea that everyone thinks they're in love with her is just extra weird.

And romancing multiple companions, do you have to be some kind of polygamist to see all the dialogue options?

The whole idea is a can of worms that shouldn't be opened because some people want a dating sim in an MMO.

spartaxoxo

Tandor wrote: »

Lugaldu wrote: »

Holycannoli wrote: »

Eh it gets cringey romancing pixels. I'm not necessarily opposed to it but it's just weird.

But it's not you who has the romance, it's your character and he has his own life!

But don't a lot of players insist that it's the other way round? It's not the character that earns an achievement, it's the player - why would this be any different ?

Because one is lore and the other is not. Gameplay elements vs Lore.

barney2525

DeltaForce64x wrote: »

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

No, not in game. I think such things are best left to the imagination of individual players.

Why? Can you specify your reason? Video games meant for people who dislike real life in some levels and throw away their real life stress by having fun and seeing things that isn't available in real life. Most people play games to escape from real life stress and hardship.

We cannot have everything in our minds, sometimes they have to become reality to live a little in a good morale.

I pay monthly fee for plus membership for a video game? I do things in real life that consumes my time and seeing things that damages my morale so I play games to have fun and restore my morale of things. When I see my beautiful character in a game that makes me happier because I'm a low life pleb who cannot get a decent computer due to things that isnt even in my control? so I search for nice things in fantasy world at least? That is a bad thing?

Imagination have its limits, that limits are very real and strict, sometimes we have to enjoy life at least in video games.

I have played a lot of SWTOR. It is impossible to have that really immersive experience because the Game interferes. The male Jedi has the relationship with Kira ... but then the game progresses and you Need to drop her as a companion because the Next companion is integral to the storyline. Everything becomes disjointed. Also, the options for romances available are always going to be extremely limited and the dialog often bland. It is Not a particularly satisfying gaming experience.

Khenarthi

Nah, for romance there's The Sims.
TES is for adventuring!

Syldras

Khenarthi wrote: »

Nah, for romance there's The Sims.
TES is for adventuring!

Adventurers have to die lonely?

SilverBride

Khenarthi wrote: »

Nah, for romance there's The Sims.
TES is for adventuring!

What about Housing and Crafting and Roleplaying and Tales of Tribute? Those aren't adventuring but certainly have a place in ESO.

emilyhyoyeon

Abelon wrote: »

Yes I definitely want the ability to romance companions. I love games that allow that possibility even if I don't always use it. It's just another layer of rp and allows you to get more immersed in the world. Why wouldn't some of my characters fall in love?

Now what those romances would look like if ZOS decided to implement them is a different question. SWTOR has a completely different companion and dialogue system, so they have more space to play with "proper" romances. Elder Scrolls on the other hand has the history of Skyrim type romance, which is basically "-Me marry you, yes?" "-Yes. Here, me make food, take food."

And seeing how companions and their personalities work right now, I wouldn't expect much more than that. Will players be happy with it? Hard to tell, but I personally think even a few lines acknowledging the characters' relationship would be nice. We can imagine the rest.

completely agree here, I never want to discourage more roleplaying options.

I'm big on rping with my characters so it'd be something for my characters, not for me myself. And honestly if someone wanted it for not their characters but for them themselves, it's not really my business and I don't care. But anyway I have one character whom romance options would really suit, so I'm really interested in this feature.

EdmondDontes

Tandor wrote: »

colossalvoids wrote: »

Eso is on low-key maintenance mode already for some years and we're paying for their next project basically, don't expect wonders especially from zenimax. We're getting base minimum of effort and it's not going to change dramatically anytime soon it seems.

What total nonsense.

It's not total nonsense. It's dead on accurate. ZOS has been basically "phoning it in" with ESO for a couple years now. Just look at the current state of PvP.

EdmondDontes

colossalvoids wrote: »

Eso is on low-key maintenance mode already for some years and we're paying for their next project basically, don't expect wonders especially from zenimax. We're getting base minimum of effort and it's not going to change dramatically anytime soon it seems.

Yep. It's disappointing in the extreme. ESO is strictly a marketing exercise for ZOS now days it seems.

Tandor

Syldras wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

But don't a lot of players insist that it's the other way round? It's not the character that earns an achievement, it's the player - why would this be any different ?

I was against account-wide achievements, by the way, but still, I see a difference. Finishing a difficult trial, for example, requires technical skill from the player. It's about mechanics. While companion romance would be a part of storytelling that doesn't require any special skills.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

But don't a lot of players insist that it's the other way round? It's not the character that earns an achievement, it's the player - why would this be any different ?

Because one is lore and the other is not. Gameplay elements vs Lore.

Both of you seem to have missed the wink at the end of my comment...

Tandor

EdmondDontes wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

colossalvoids wrote: »

Eso is on low-key maintenance mode already for some years and we're paying for their next project basically, don't expect wonders especially from zenimax. We're getting base minimum of effort and it's not going to change dramatically anytime soon it seems.

What total nonsense.

It's not total nonsense. It's dead on accurate. ZOS has been basically "phoning it in" with ESO for a couple years now. Just look at the current state of PvP.

PvP is a small part of the game, but even there the server replacements on PC NA have apparently resulted in major performance improvements with the intention clearly to extend those replacements to the remaining servers and platforms. I wouldn't call replacement servers and 4 content releases each year "low maintenance mode".

Jusey1

If they added an attractive male Argonian, then yes I would want to romance him but currently? No. I enjoy being friends with my companions and best friends with Mirri right now.

Carlos93

I would put brothels in every city in Tamriel that can be paid with gold, dancers and dancers could be hired to dance in our houses.

I would put bathhouses in cities, where you have to pay gold to enter.

I would put sexual attributes on our characters like in Conan Exiles.

I said.

; 3

Eric_Prince

Until I won't be able to have a harem - not interested.