Which Companion are you most looking forward to?

Browiseth

None

EdmondDontes wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

EdmondDontes wrote: »

Snamyap wrote: »

EdmondDontes wrote: »

Companions are for games that people play solo. They don't fit in for MMO's. In MMO's there are other real people we are supposed to interact with to get things done.

Here you go, enlighten yourself to the wonderful world of people that are unlike you.

https://youtu.be/b2l2ZxNhCSg

I focus on being a strong enough player that I don't need NPC's helping me accomplish my in game goals. I make friends with people and join guilds. That's how MMO's are designed to work.

I'm glad you like companions, but there is no reason to be defensive when someone points out how they don't really fit well with an MMO. MMO's are SUPPOSED to encourage the player to make friends, join guilds and work with other players. Companions discourage players from making friends, joining guild and working with other players.

again it's pretty clear you did not watch the video and that notwithstanding your reasoning here is incredibly close-minded and self-centered. your reasoning kinda boils down to "people who play the game different to me are wrong." and please don't backtrack on this when you literally tried to define what types of content an MMO is "supposed" to encourage its players to engage in. in the end an MMORPG is kinda just a huge sandbox with a bunch of different types of content to appeal to many different types of players, whether that's solo, group or player versus player content. the actual goal of an MMO should be to make all of those forms of content feel rewarding.

why are there even quests in this game? why isn't it when i log in i'm not automatically queued for a group to pvp or do dungeons?

i mean already with that, your logic has fallen apart hasn't it

yes there is an obvious multiplayer component to an MMO but the amazing thing is that the player is presented with the choice in what level of the multiplayer they engage in. for a large chunk of players, their level of engagement is to play solo, and the multiplayer component exists as this community of players in the background of their single player experience.

that's not even beginning to get into the fact that eso is an M-M-O-R-P-G, emphasis on the RPG, i.e roleplaying game. a central feature of roleplaying games has often been being able to interact with other NPC characters, whether that's as questgivers or companions in the combat and story.

i encourage you to think outside of your own experience with eso. it's pretty fascinating to explore the different ways this game is enjoyed by people that may not be your own, and it's something i've grown a further appreciation for over the years.

also, to suggest companions discourage players from meeting other players is...pretty baseless conjecture. and even if they did, what does it matter?

overall, just a really bad take

My logic hols up just fine. You might want to ask yourself why you are so defensive about this topic. There is always Skyrim if you want to run around with a bunch of companions and pets. This is an MMO and a totally different game. It's meant to be played with other players, not solely with NPC's. It's not my opinion, it's right there in the game design. And, in case you didn't notice, you are getting access to a total of 4 companions now, so you should be happy, not defensive.

so wait

there are going to be 4 companions in the game

so the developers added them to the game with the intention that players will use them?

there is content in the game balanced and designed for solo play?

if you want to talk about how eso is "supposed" to be played you've already proven your own point wrong

like you said, its right there in the game design

RaikaNA

None

Companions are useless in this game... can't go into dungeons or trials without seeing them die all the time LOL. they're not useful at all.

Kallykat

Depends on the character I am playing

I love the companion system! It makes it a little more convenient for me to solo quest, and I like customizing them on my different characters. They're one of the few things I'm looking forward to with this release, other than questing in High Isle itself. I look forward to getting both Isobel and Ember, and I can't wait for more companions. I hope they make at least one of every race.

M0ntie

None

Unless they have changed them to not stand so close that I interact with them unintentionally all the time, I don’t want any.

tim77

Isobel

just looks like a definition problem:

EdmondDontes wrote: »

This is an MMO

Sjestenka

Isobel

Izzy. She would be one sole reason for me to buy the chapter, ahehe.. Because she's
a) human female. Some characters of mine despise pointy ears. And males. Oh.
b) voiced by L. Bailey. My gaming addiction started somewheres with Bloodrayne. Same voice actress. Add Serana to that.. And Saints Row 3, 4..
c) tanky healer? Yes please.

pklemming

Any that provide me with real life alcohol, or coffee, otherwise, I don't really care.

Also, please give them some kind of variance in their responses, or we just turn off all the audio, which makes all the time spent recording and paying voice over people, pointless.

It is hard to do, but take a leaf from the likes of Rimworld's Speak up and Callout mods, that have a verbose dictionary and basic rules for how to say things. Yes, sometimes they are completely inappropriate, but highly, highly amusing.



Not the best example, but right nowit doesn't feel like you have a companion with you, more of an incredibly annoying, shallow, npc.

Lysette

Ember

Even I take the warning seriously, that Ember could get me in trouble due to her kleptomaniac nature. It was said in one of the streams ZOS made about High Isle, so yeah, she might be interesting as companion, but eventually problematic as well.

Lysette

Ember

RaikaNA wrote: »

Companions are useless in this game... can't go into dungeons or trials without seeing them die all the time LOL. they're not useful at all.

And not meant for this kind of content anyway - they are fun and a really nice addition to ESO.

pklemming

The thing is, they could be so much more. Their AI is very, very poor and doesn't make me want to use them

The only reason I level them is for the passives, then they will be put away and never used again.

Shagreth

Isobel

Wyrd88 wrote: »

They simply need to waste even more development time on adding even more useless stuff on top of the existing useless system.
kekw.

"Kekw" ah yes, a twitch chat dweller. I don't know why I even bother, but I know what people like you consider content -- only dungeons, sets, new abilities etc. (don't get me wrong, we NEED that stuff desperately too) but saying that these are the sole things that matter and everything else is useless fluff, then you got a surprise coming to you about the core playerbase that 'keeps the lights on' for ESO. (spoiler: they care for said fluff)

So, yeah, why not both? It's asinine to think that just because we're getting X we can't have Y. The real enemy here is server performance and the memory limitations of old gen consoles, THESE are the reasons we can't have everything. In an ideal world they'd be ditching support and next expansion would have engine upgrades and a bunch of new skills, morphs, no lagging in cyro etc. But alas, due to certain circumstances they can't do that.

It seems some people in here are desperate about getting the RPG out of the MMO.

JimT722

I would like an argonian companion at some point.

starlizard70ub17_ESO

Depends on the character I am playing

My NB and vampire Warden would prefer the companion who doesn't question our activities so much . Beyond that, my companion choice depends more on the situation or dungeon I'm in rather the character I'm playing.

Androrix

None of the above.

Has to be a dog like Fallout or Dragon Age! Every self respecting fantasy game needs a loyal doggo!

phantasmalD

Isobel

I thought Isobel would be a stuck-up, annoying, holier-than-thou cringe, but she is actually just a chill nerd.
Ember is also cool, but seems a bit too much of a stereotypical 'haha, mischievous, powerful mage apprentice '.

Holycannoli

What about having Jakarn or Crafty Lerisa as a companion? They were nteresting NPCs that your character seemed to form a genuine friendship with.

Seems like they were almost designed to become companions.

Or the best option, customizable companions that we can also give our unlocked Personalities to.

KlauthWarthog

None

Until they learn how to stand on a pad, pull a lever or bash-interrupt a mechanic, I have no use for them.

Eccentric_Vampire

None

Kinda disappointed there isn't a male companion.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

100% not interested in companions. No objection to them in game, and the more the better so maybe I dont see 30 of the same one, they just don't do anything for me. They arent smart enough to really be useful in more difficult content, and if anything, they just seem to get in the way.

EdmondDontes

None

Browiseth wrote: »

EdmondDontes wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

EdmondDontes wrote: »

Snamyap wrote: »

EdmondDontes wrote: »

Companions are for games that people play solo. They don't fit in for MMO's. In MMO's there are other real people we are supposed to interact with to get things done.

Here you go, enlighten yourself to the wonderful world of people that are unlike you.

https://youtu.be/b2l2ZxNhCSg

I focus on being a strong enough player that I don't need NPC's helping me accomplish my in game goals. I make friends with people and join guilds. That's how MMO's are designed to work.

I'm glad you like companions, but there is no reason to be defensive when someone points out how they don't really fit well with an MMO. MMO's are SUPPOSED to encourage the player to make friends, join guilds and work with other players. Companions discourage players from making friends, joining guild and working with other players.

again it's pretty clear you did not watch the video and that notwithstanding your reasoning here is incredibly close-minded and self-centered. your reasoning kinda boils down to "people who play the game different to me are wrong." and please don't backtrack on this when you literally tried to define what types of content an MMO is "supposed" to encourage its players to engage in. in the end an MMORPG is kinda just a huge sandbox with a bunch of different types of content to appeal to many different types of players, whether that's solo, group or player versus player content. the actual goal of an MMO should be to make all of those forms of content feel rewarding.

why are there even quests in this game? why isn't it when i log in i'm not automatically queued for a group to pvp or do dungeons?

i mean already with that, your logic has fallen apart hasn't it

yes there is an obvious multiplayer component to an MMO but the amazing thing is that the player is presented with the choice in what level of the multiplayer they engage in. for a large chunk of players, their level of engagement is to play solo, and the multiplayer component exists as this community of players in the background of their single player experience.

that's not even beginning to get into the fact that eso is an M-M-O-R-P-G, emphasis on the RPG, i.e roleplaying game. a central feature of roleplaying games has often been being able to interact with other NPC characters, whether that's as questgivers or companions in the combat and story.

i encourage you to think outside of your own experience with eso. it's pretty fascinating to explore the different ways this game is enjoyed by people that may not be your own, and it's something i've grown a further appreciation for over the years.

also, to suggest companions discourage players from meeting other players is...pretty baseless conjecture. and even if they did, what does it matter?

overall, just a really bad take

My logic hols up just fine. You might want to ask yourself why you are so defensive about this topic. There is always Skyrim if you want to run around with a bunch of companions and pets. This is an MMO and a totally different game. It's meant to be played with other players, not solely with NPC's. It's not my opinion, it's right there in the game design. And, in case you didn't notice, you are getting access to a total of 4 companions now, so you should be happy, not defensive.

so wait

there are going to be 4 companions in the game

so the developers added them to the game with the intention that players will use them?

there is content in the game balanced and designed for solo play?

if you want to talk about how eso is "supposed" to be played you've already proven your own point wrong

like you said, its right there in the game design

Right. They are changing the game to cater to the casual players. That is not how the game was originally, and I disagree with the change in direction the the dev team has taken. It's dumbing down the game.

I have found that the two companions I have, who are totally decked out in premium gear, are still nearly useless in every situation as well. It doesn't make sense from any perspective other than marketing.

Mr_Stach

Just wait for the:

VETERAN OVERLAND UPDATE

The entire World is just a Giant Trial. Hope you got your group ready.

Browiseth

None

EdmondDontes wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

EdmondDontes wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

EdmondDontes wrote: »

Snamyap wrote: »

EdmondDontes wrote: »

Companions are for games that people play solo. They don't fit in for MMO's. In MMO's there are other real people we are supposed to interact with to get things done.

Here you go, enlighten yourself to the wonderful world of people that are unlike you.

https://youtu.be/b2l2ZxNhCSg

I focus on being a strong enough player that I don't need NPC's helping me accomplish my in game goals. I make friends with people and join guilds. That's how MMO's are designed to work.

I'm glad you like companions, but there is no reason to be defensive when someone points out how they don't really fit well with an MMO. MMO's are SUPPOSED to encourage the player to make friends, join guilds and work with other players. Companions discourage players from making friends, joining guild and working with other players.

again it's pretty clear you did not watch the video and that notwithstanding your reasoning here is incredibly close-minded and self-centered. your reasoning kinda boils down to "people who play the game different to me are wrong." and please don't backtrack on this when you literally tried to define what types of content an MMO is "supposed" to encourage its players to engage in. in the end an MMORPG is kinda just a huge sandbox with a bunch of different types of content to appeal to many different types of players, whether that's solo, group or player versus player content. the actual goal of an MMO should be to make all of those forms of content feel rewarding.

why are there even quests in this game? why isn't it when i log in i'm not automatically queued for a group to pvp or do dungeons?

i mean already with that, your logic has fallen apart hasn't it

yes there is an obvious multiplayer component to an MMO but the amazing thing is that the player is presented with the choice in what level of the multiplayer they engage in. for a large chunk of players, their level of engagement is to play solo, and the multiplayer component exists as this community of players in the background of their single player experience.

that's not even beginning to get into the fact that eso is an M-M-O-R-P-G, emphasis on the RPG, i.e roleplaying game. a central feature of roleplaying games has often been being able to interact with other NPC characters, whether that's as questgivers or companions in the combat and story.

i encourage you to think outside of your own experience with eso. it's pretty fascinating to explore the different ways this game is enjoyed by people that may not be your own, and it's something i've grown a further appreciation for over the years.

also, to suggest companions discourage players from meeting other players is...pretty baseless conjecture. and even if they did, what does it matter?

overall, just a really bad take

My logic hols up just fine. You might want to ask yourself why you are so defensive about this topic. There is always Skyrim if you want to run around with a bunch of companions and pets. This is an MMO and a totally different game. It's meant to be played with other players, not solely with NPC's. It's not my opinion, it's right there in the game design. And, in case you didn't notice, you are getting access to a total of 4 companions now, so you should be happy, not defensive.

so wait

there are going to be 4 companions in the game

so the developers added them to the game with the intention that players will use them?

there is content in the game balanced and designed for solo play?

if you want to talk about how eso is "supposed" to be played you've already proven your own point wrong

like you said, its right there in the game design

Right. They are changing the game to cater to the casual players. That is not how the game was originally, and I disagree with the change in direction the the dev team has taken. It's dumbing down the game.

I have found that the two companions I have, who are totally decked out in premium gear, are still nearly useless in every situation as well. It doesn't make sense from any perspective other than marketing.

as someone who has played since launch i respectfully disagree. overland content was definitely more difficult than it is right now, but nontheless a pretty easygoing experience

and dude, you say the game is catering to casuals like thats a bad thing. if we assume a casual is someone who is 1) bad/below average skill at the game, 2) someone who plays solo or at most with their friend or sporadically with randoms and 3) not especially interested in improving at the game

then that is literally the vast majority of a playerbase in any game. if anything, it's players such as yourself that are the outliers

+ mirri is just really cute, hope they add marriage as an option for companions one day

Ingenon

None

I have Bastien and Mirri fully leveled, and I am using one as a tank and the other as a healer. For most content they don't die immediately. Not sure what I will do with two more companions. I expect that I will unlock and level them.

DigiAngel

None

Mirri does fine as a healer....I can't see a reason to pay for different one, when I never bothered with Bastien.

Beilin_Balreis_Colcan

EdmondDontes wrote: »

Companions are for games that people play solo. They don't fit in for MMO's. In MMO's there are other real people we are supposed to interact with to get things done.

A lot of us actually joined ESO because we enjoyed the offline ES games and wanted more of Tamriel to explore, and even ZOS have recognised that. So perhaps this MMO is atypical?

Tornaad

Depends on the character I am playing

vsrs_au wrote: »

EdmondDontes wrote: »

Companions are for games that people play solo. They don't fit in for MMO's. In MMO's there are other real people we are supposed to interact with to get things done.

A lot of us actually joined ESO because we enjoyed the offline ES games and wanted more of Tamriel to explore, and even ZOS have recognised that. So perhaps this MMO is atypical?

That is literally the reason I started playing ESO. Elder Scrolls games is about the only series I have played for about 15 years now. I needed something new to feed my Elder Scrolls fix and was not ready to move on to a new series. So I broke down and tried ESO. I have played since August of 2016 and have slowly started to branch into group content.

The3sFinest

None

On the topic of companions, was there any reason why Zos removed the dancing, laughing, eating that your companion mirrored? I remember seeing this from someone either during Blackwood pts or early release.

TheImperfect

Ember

Looking forward to both, but always wanted a khajiit companion.

BretonMage

Ember

vsrs_au wrote: »

EdmondDontes wrote: »

Companions are for games that people play solo. They don't fit in for MMO's. In MMO's there are other real people we are supposed to interact with to get things done.

A lot of us actually joined ESO because we enjoyed the offline ES games and wanted more of Tamriel to explore, and even ZOS have recognised that. So perhaps this MMO is atypical?

Yep. TES fan here since Morrowind, I was studiously avoiding ESO for a long time until 2018 when I found out I could finally, finally visit the Summerset Isles. I still play mostly solo, enjoying the breadth of the Elder Scrolls universe, but I love most of the MMO aspects of it as well. I think ESO bridges the SP and MMO gap really well, kudos to them.

Back on topic, not that I need a sorcerer, but I like the sound of Ember. I think Bastian, Ember and I would make a great team, if only we could travel together.

Lysette

Ember

Browiseth wrote: »

+ mirri is just really cute, hope they add marriage as an option for companions one day

Ha, someone else is adoring Mirri - get an awesome from me.