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Why don't they move PvP threads? (Forum)

Kisakee
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Threads are getting moved to the fitting section if a mod feels the need of it:
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I've never seen a PvP topic being moved though. About half of the PvP topics aren't flagged as such so you read the title and most of the post only to realise that you wasted your time on something that doesn't affect you. So why aren't they moved and can we make it happen?
Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on May 14, 2022 1:50AM
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  • Stamicka
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    Well PvP is a part of the game and there’s often ambiguity when making forum discussions about it. Some PvP threads are better suited in the “General” section of the forums. For example, if I were to make a thread titled “There’s not Enough Incentive to PvP” or “PvP is Unfriendly to New Players”, I think these topics could fit into either forum section. On one hand, yes they’re both about PvP, but on the other hand they generate a discussion about the fundamental design of ESO. To me, those topics fit better in the “General” section.
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  • Kisakee
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    Stamicka wrote: »
    Well PvP is a part of the game and there’s often ambiguity when making forum discussions about it. Some PvP threads are better suited in the “General” section of the forums. For example, if I were to make a thread titled “There’s not Enough Incentive to PvP” or “PvP is Unfriendly to New Players”, I think these topics could fit into either forum section. On one hand, yes they’re both about PvP, but on the other hand they generate a discussion about the fundamental design of ESO. To me, those topics fit better in the “General” section.

    But that in fact is a general discussion and totally fine in this section. Something like this isn't in my opinion:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/605029/resolving-vigor-and-echoing-vigor-has-the-same-amount-of-ticks-what#latest

    It's not flagged as PvP in title and not mentioned till the very end. It's simply a waste of time to me and i would like to see such posts getting moved.
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  • jaws343
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    Stamicka wrote: »
    Well PvP is a part of the game and there’s often ambiguity when making forum discussions about it. Some PvP threads are better suited in the “General” section of the forums. For example, if I were to make a thread titled “There’s not Enough Incentive to PvP” or “PvP is Unfriendly to New Players”, I think these topics could fit into either forum section. On one hand, yes they’re both about PvP, but on the other hand they generate a discussion about the fundamental design of ESO. To me, those topics fit better in the “General” section.

    But that in fact is a general discussion and totally fine in this section. Something like this isn't in my opinion:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/605029/resolving-vigor-and-echoing-vigor-has-the-same-amount-of-ticks-what#latest

    It's not flagged as PvP in title and not mentioned till the very end. It's simply a waste of time to me and i would like to see such posts getting moved.

    Vigor is a skill that is used in all content across the game. So, by that very nature, a thread about the healing ticks of that skill are relevant to the entire game, not just PVP.
  • Stamicka
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    Stamicka wrote: »
    Well PvP is a part of the game and there’s often ambiguity when making forum discussions about it. Some PvP threads are better suited in the “General” section of the forums. For example, if I were to make a thread titled “There’s not Enough Incentive to PvP” or “PvP is Unfriendly to New Players”, I think these topics could fit into either forum section. On one hand, yes they’re both about PvP, but on the other hand they generate a discussion about the fundamental design of ESO. To me, those topics fit better in the “General” section.

    But that in fact is a general discussion and totally fine in this section. Something like this isn't in my opinion:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/605029/resolving-vigor-and-echoing-vigor-has-the-same-amount-of-ticks-what#latest

    It's not flagged as PvP in title and not mentioned till the very end. It's simply a waste of time to me and i would like to see such posts getting moved.

    That post is talking about a skill in the game. Since PVE and PvP are not balanced separately, discussing the balance of a skill has implications to both PvP and PVE, so that post is totally fine.
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  • Kisakee
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    Kisakee wrote: »
    Stamicka wrote: »
    Well PvP is a part of the game and there’s often ambiguity when making forum discussions about it. Some PvP threads are better suited in the “General” section of the forums. For example, if I were to make a thread titled “There’s not Enough Incentive to PvP” or “PvP is Unfriendly to New Players”, I think these topics could fit into either forum section. On one hand, yes they’re both about PvP, but on the other hand they generate a discussion about the fundamental design of ESO. To me, those topics fit better in the “General” section.

    But that in fact is a general discussion and totally fine in this section. Something like this isn't in my opinion:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/605029/resolving-vigor-and-echoing-vigor-has-the-same-amount-of-ticks-what#latest

    It's not flagged as PvP in title and not mentioned till the very end. It's simply a waste of time to me and i would like to see such posts getting moved.

    Vigor is a skill that is used in all content across the game. So, by that very nature, a thread about the healing ticks of that skill are relevant to the entire game, not just PVP.

    When you read the first post the intention isn't discussing Vigor and its mechanics but more like a rant and what to use instead in PvP. The focus is PvP so it's not a general discussion to me.
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  • jaws343
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    Kisakee wrote: »
    Stamicka wrote: »
    Well PvP is a part of the game and there’s often ambiguity when making forum discussions about it. Some PvP threads are better suited in the “General” section of the forums. For example, if I were to make a thread titled “There’s not Enough Incentive to PvP” or “PvP is Unfriendly to New Players”, I think these topics could fit into either forum section. On one hand, yes they’re both about PvP, but on the other hand they generate a discussion about the fundamental design of ESO. To me, those topics fit better in the “General” section.

    But that in fact is a general discussion and totally fine in this section. Something like this isn't in my opinion:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/605029/resolving-vigor-and-echoing-vigor-has-the-same-amount-of-ticks-what#latest

    It's not flagged as PvP in title and not mentioned till the very end. It's simply a waste of time to me and i would like to see such posts getting moved.

    Vigor is a skill that is used in all content across the game. So, by that very nature, a thread about the healing ticks of that skill are relevant to the entire game, not just PVP.

    When you read the first post the intention isn't discussing Vigor and its mechanics but more like a rant and what to use instead in PvP. The focus is PvP so it's not a general discussion to me.

    The entire thread is discussing the mechanics of Vigor. And not once, at all with any of the OP or the responses, is PVP even directly mentioned.

    But, either way, this is such a non issue. It's far easier to just ignore a thread you don't care about than it is to make a post like this that is far more non-productive.
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Part of me thinks the should just combine the forums into one or two max. I spend more time on these forums than is probably healthy, and there are maybe 3 sub sections I look at with any consistency. Most the sub forums dont even see daily activity, some havent seen a post in weeks. Posting there is basically guaranteeing little to know response. Combine it all into General and Combat and be done with it.
    Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on May 10, 2022 8:46PM
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    Part of me thinks the should just combine the forums into one or two max. I spend more time on these forums than is probably healthy, and there are maybe 3 sub sections I look at with any consistency. Most the threads dont even see daily activity. Posting there is basically guaranteeing little to know response. Combine it all into General and Combat and be done with it.

    Recent is the only (best) way to read the forums. No point in dropping into subdivisions. Just click recent and skip what you don't care about. I think the only time I ever go to a specific forum section is when I am explicitly looking for an unpinned set of patch notes.
  • Kisakee
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    It's far easier to just ignore a thread you don't care about

    And that's the exact problem: i don't know if it's about PvP or not before i read it. I don't want to waste my time reading it only to realise that i did just that - wasting my time. That's why i want them being moved.
    Edited by Kisakee on May 10, 2022 9:02PM
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  • coletas
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    Stamicka wrote: »
    Well PvP is a part of the game and there’s often ambiguity when making forum discussions about it. Some PvP threads are better suited in the “General” section of the forums. For example, if I were to make a thread titled “There’s not Enough Incentive to PvP” or “PvP is Unfriendly to New Players”, I think these topics could fit into either forum section. On one hand, yes they’re both about PvP, but on the other hand they generate a discussion about the fundamental design of ESO. To me, those topics fit better in the “General” section.

    But that in fact is a general discussion and totally fine in this section. Something like this isn't in my opinion:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/605029/resolving-vigor-and-echoing-vigor-has-the-same-amount-of-ticks-what#latest

    It's not flagged as PvP in title and not mentioned till the very end. It's simply a waste of time to me and i would like to see such posts getting moved.

    Its not a PvP question. Its a group question. For PvP and for pve. Criticing something without reading it is called prejudge and is the main cause of some persons loosing lots of culture and knowledge. If you read the complete thread im SURE that you will learn something for your magical pve world without pvp and you wont waste your time reading PvP stuff. Please, nothing personal or baiting or something like that. Have a good night
  • Ratzkifal
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    I've been wondering about that too. This thread has been moved to the lore part of the forum, but it was perfectly fine in General because it's a joke thread and only tangentially relates to lore, but also combat.

    A ton of threads could go into other categories or even multiple categories but they also don't really need to. It's very confusing that only some are being moved though. I feel like there definitely should be more clarity as to what belongs where and when something has to be moved.

    Do note that this is a rather new development, so I'd say to give it time. Maybe the forums will be more tidy soon or maybe future threads won't be moved anymore.
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  • FeedbackOnly
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    I feel conflicted on the issue.
    Edited by FeedbackOnly on May 11, 2022 4:55AM
  • newtinmpls
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    I do not care about areas or sub-forums; I just hit 'recent' to see what people are up to, curious about or discussing.

    So if something is or is not moved, mostly it doesn't really make a difference to me.
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  • Thecompton73
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    Considering it has PvP in the title is seems like this thread should be moved from the general discussion to the Alliance War and Imperial city sub forum
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    Do I understand this correctly? You don't like PvP so much that you don't even want to know what "those bad PvP players" want to change in the skills YOU use?

    Or is there some other specific reason why you have a problem with it?

    Because as far as topics that don't concern you, there will be plenty in the General section and your anger directed at PvP threads seems a bit prejudiced to me. Also, it seems to me that you don't understand what the division is about.

    If someone is asking for help, it should just go to the "Players Helping Players" section. If the topic is about decorating the house we have the "Housing" section, but if we talk about "What I would like to change about Housing" or "What can we do to make Housing more interesting" or "I think we should change the limit on furniture" etc. these are DISCUSSIONS OF OPINIONS and not specific conversations from point A to point B, they are loose conversations.

    The same goes for PvP. Proposals for changes, balance, equipment and its impact on PvP can not be discussed in isolation from PvE, general discussions on topics where the boundary is blurred or can not be clearly defined remains in General. If someone wants to talk specifically about something like "I need help improving my PvP build" or "How do I deal with a ganker" or "Gankers are too strong!" then they go to the PvP section, if the discussion is "DK are too strong!" - it is a multi-level issue because it also applies to PvE players.
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  • EdmondDontes
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    If you look up at the top of these pages in the general forum you will see pinned threads about PvP here. Even the devs post PvP information in the "General" forum rather than the "Alliance War" section of the forum for some reason.

    ...and then there is the problem of the company posting information only on social media platforms rather than in their own dedicated forums first. It makes them look really unorganized and scatterbrained sometimes in my opinion. It seems to me that all game related information should be posted on these dedicated forums first and leave social media out of it all together. Many of us will never see any information posted on any social media platform.

  • Kisakee
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    Mayrael wrote: »
    Do I understand this correctly? You don't like PvP so much that you don't even want to know what "those bad PvP players" want to change in the skills YOU use?

    Or is there some other specific reason why you have a problem with it?

    Because as far as topics that don't concern you, there will be plenty in the General section and your anger directed at PvP threads seems a bit prejudiced to me. Also, it seems to me that you don't understand what the division is about.

    If someone is asking for help, it should just go to the "Players Helping Players" section. If the topic is about decorating the house we have the "Housing" section, but if we talk about "What I would like to change about Housing" or "What can we do to make Housing more interesting" or "I think we should change the limit on furniture" etc. these are DISCUSSIONS OF OPINIONS and not specific conversations from point A to point B, they are loose conversations.

    The same goes for PvP. Proposals for changes, balance, equipment and its impact on PvP can not be discussed in isolation from PvE, general discussions on topics where the boundary is blurred or can not be clearly defined remains in General. If someone wants to talk specifically about something like "I need help improving my PvP build" or "How do I deal with a ganker" or "Gankers are too strong!" then they go to the PvP section, if the discussion is "DK are too strong!" - it is a multi-level issue because it also applies to PvE players.

    I'd like you to stop laying words in my mouth. All i asked for is moving PvP related stuff into the PvP section so that i'm not accidentally reading it without knowing till i'm almost done with it when i'm not interested in these things 97% of the time. To me my time is precious and i dislike wasting it, that's all.
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  • Kisakee
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    coletas wrote: »
    Kisakee wrote: »
    Stamicka wrote: »
    Well PvP is a part of the game and there’s often ambiguity when making forum discussions about it. Some PvP threads are better suited in the “General” section of the forums. For example, if I were to make a thread titled “There’s not Enough Incentive to PvP” or “PvP is Unfriendly to New Players”, I think these topics could fit into either forum section. On one hand, yes they’re both about PvP, but on the other hand they generate a discussion about the fundamental design of ESO. To me, those topics fit better in the “General” section.

    But that in fact is a general discussion and totally fine in this section. Something like this isn't in my opinion:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/605029/resolving-vigor-and-echoing-vigor-has-the-same-amount-of-ticks-what#latest

    It's not flagged as PvP in title and not mentioned till the very end. It's simply a waste of time to me and i would like to see such posts getting moved.

    Its not a PvP question. Its a group question. For PvP and for pve. Criticing something without reading it is called prejudge and is the main cause of some persons loosing lots of culture and knowledge. If you read the complete thread im SURE that you will learn something for your magical pve world without pvp and you wont waste your time reading PvP stuff. Please, nothing personal or baiting or something like that. Have a good night

    Everyone with some basic PvP knowledge can easily tell what kind of discussion that is. No DD would consider running a Restoration staff in trials and for Overland and Dungeon content it really doesn't matter what healing ability you use let alone the Restoration staff. It's purely about PvP.

    And once again for the record: If someone wants to start a war between people liking PvP and people disliking it this isn't the place for you. I want a simple separation of PvP and Non-PvP related stuff simply for my convinience of reading things.
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  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    Part of me thinks the should just combine the forums into one or two max. I spend more time on these forums than is probably healthy, and there are maybe 3 sub sections I look at with any consistency. Most the threads dont even see daily activity. Posting there is basically guaranteeing little to know response. Combine it all into General and Combat and be done with it.

    Recent is the only (best) way to read the forums. No point in dropping into subdivisions. Just click recent and skip what you don't care about. I think the only time I ever go to a specific forum section is when I am explicitly looking for an unpinned set of patch notes.

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    You just blew my freaking mind. I must be new around here. :wink:
  • coletas
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    coletas wrote: »
    Kisakee wrote: »
    Stamicka wrote: »
    Well PvP is a part of the game and there’s often ambiguity when making forum discussions about it. Some PvP threads are better suited in the “General” section of the forums. For example, if I were to make a thread titled “There’s not Enough Incentive to PvP” or “PvP is Unfriendly to New Players”, I think these topics could fit into either forum section. On one hand, yes they’re both about PvP, but on the other hand they generate a discussion about the fundamental design of ESO. To me, those topics fit better in the “General” section.

    But that in fact is a general discussion and totally fine in this section. Something like this isn't in my opinion:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/605029/resolving-vigor-and-echoing-vigor-has-the-same-amount-of-ticks-what#latest

    It's not flagged as PvP in title and not mentioned till the very end. It's simply a waste of time to me and i would like to see such posts getting moved.

    Its not a PvP question. Its a group question. For PvP and for pve. Criticing something without reading it is called prejudge and is the main cause of some persons loosing lots of culture and knowledge. If you read the complete thread im SURE that you will learn something for your magical pve world without pvp and you wont waste your time reading PvP stuff. Please, nothing personal or baiting or something like that. Have a good night

    Everyone with some basic PvP knowledge can easily tell what kind of discussion that is. No DD would consider running a Restoration staff in trials and for Overland and Dungeon content it really doesn't matter what healing ability you use let alone the Restoration staff. It's purely about PvP.

    And once again for the record: If someone wants to start a war between people liking PvP and people disliking it this isn't the place for you. I want a simple separation of PvP and Non-PvP related stuff simply for my convinience of reading things.

    Its obvious you dont want to learn anything as basic as stacking little hots, specially in trials or with randoms is key. Look closely the BG screenshot Skara posted. Is selfexplicative... And extremely explicative. After examining it, do you think is only valid for PvP? You think that for a trial is better the 2-3 healers model? Dont botter to reply, im sure that the selfish model of I want to be dd, healer or tank on my own without preparing anything with my group is the only model you have played because you would never said that stupid thing of a DD with a resto staff lol... You never seen a DD with a resto staff in a trial? I have seen the bests DDs. Those that can play in a trial while a healer is going for some beers and some snacks meanwhile.

    But hey, dont worry, dont try it. Learn it the hard mode like most of us.

    About war PvP vs pves or something like that for me is completely a non-sense. I dont like pve in this game but why should i hate pvers or something like that? lol what is stupid is saying that you are loosing time on reading PvP stuff while you loose more time in non-sense threads like this.

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  • Kisakee
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    coletas wrote: »
    Kisakee wrote: »
    coletas wrote: »
    Kisakee wrote: »
    Stamicka wrote: »
    Well PvP is a part of the game and there’s often ambiguity when making forum discussions about it. Some PvP threads are better suited in the “General” section of the forums. For example, if I were to make a thread titled “There’s not Enough Incentive to PvP” or “PvP is Unfriendly to New Players”, I think these topics could fit into either forum section. On one hand, yes they’re both about PvP, but on the other hand they generate a discussion about the fundamental design of ESO. To me, those topics fit better in the “General” section.

    But that in fact is a general discussion and totally fine in this section. Something like this isn't in my opinion:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/605029/resolving-vigor-and-echoing-vigor-has-the-same-amount-of-ticks-what#latest

    It's not flagged as PvP in title and not mentioned till the very end. It's simply a waste of time to me and i would like to see such posts getting moved.

    Its not a PvP question. Its a group question. For PvP and for pve. Criticing something without reading it is called prejudge and is the main cause of some persons loosing lots of culture and knowledge. If you read the complete thread im SURE that you will learn something for your magical pve world without pvp and you wont waste your time reading PvP stuff. Please, nothing personal or baiting or something like that. Have a good night

    Everyone with some basic PvP knowledge can easily tell what kind of discussion that is. No DD would consider running a Restoration staff in trials and for Overland and Dungeon content it really doesn't matter what healing ability you use let alone the Restoration staff. It's purely about PvP.

    And once again for the record: If someone wants to start a war between people liking PvP and people disliking it this isn't the place for you. I want a simple separation of PvP and Non-PvP related stuff simply for my convinience of reading things.

    Its obvious you dont want to learn anything as basic as stacking little hots, specially in trials or with randoms is key. Look closely the BG screenshot Skara posted. Is selfexplicative... And extremely explicative. After examining it, do you think is only valid for PvP? You think that for a trial is better the 2-3 healers model? Dont botter to reply, im sure that the selfish model of I want to be dd, healer or tank on my own without preparing anything with my group is the only model you have played because you would never said that stupid thing of a DD with a resto staff lol... You never seen a DD with a resto staff in a trial? I have seen the bests DDs. Those that can play in a trial while a healer is going for some beers and some snacks meanwhile.

    But hey, dont worry, dont try it. Learn it the hard mode like most of us.

    About war PvP vs pves or something like that for me is completely a non-sense. I dont like pve in this game but why should i hate pvers or something like that? lol what is stupid is saying that you are loosing time on reading PvP stuff while you loose more time in non-sense threads like this.

    Try to learn from everybody, believe me, is great.

    You're missing the whole point of this thread and half of what you said is just nonsense to me so i'm not even trying to argue here.
    I'm but a sarcastic beef jerky. Irony and cynicism are my parents. You've been warned.
  • ResidentContrarian
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    Why do you feel the need to question the mods action? Their board, their rules...simple as that. They don't need to explain anything to me nor you.
  • Kisakee
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    Why do you feel the need to question the mods action? Their board, their rules...simple as that. They don't need to explain anything to me nor you.

    It's not that type of thread so please cut it right there.

    They aren't using their own forum sections properly in my opinion and that's what i'm questioning, nothing else.
    I'm but a sarcastic beef jerky. Irony and cynicism are my parents. You've been warned.
  • Crispen_Longbow
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    Threads are getting moved to the fitting section if a mod feels the need of it:
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    I've never seen a PvP topic being moved though. About half of the PvP topics aren't flagged as such so you read the title and most of the post only to realise that you wasted your time on something that doesn't affect you. So why aren't they moved and can we make it happen?

    Considering you don't read PVP topics you wouldn't be aware of when they move. They move PVP topics all the time. Now you know. They move them when they feel they should be moved.

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    Edited by Crispen_Longbow on May 11, 2022 8:54PM
    Crispen Longbow - Daggerfall Covenant (DC): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - RIP (Blue VE, Khole, LoM, MO)
    Crispen Longboww - Aldmeri Dominion (AD): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - Crispen's House of Pain RIP (KP, Yellow VE, Omni)
    Crispen Longbow-EP - Ebonheart Pact (EP): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - RIP (Red VE)
  • EdmondDontes
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    Why do you feel the need to question the mods action? Their board, their rules...simple as that. They don't need to explain anything to me nor you.

    As paying customers ZOS absolutely DOES owe us communication and responsiveness. Good grief.
  • Kisakee
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    Threads are getting moved to the fitting section if a mod feels the need of it:
    v30llan58blx.jpg


    I've never seen a PvP topic being moved though. About half of the PvP topics aren't flagged as such so you read the title and most of the post only to realise that you wasted your time on something that doesn't affect you. So why aren't they moved and can we make it happen?

    Considering you don't read PVP topics you wouldn't be aware of when they move. They move PVP topics all the time. Now you know. They move them when they feel they should be moved.

    So they move at least some threads. That's nice to know, thanks for the info. But what about these:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/604770/6-simple-tricks-any-player-can-do-to-stop-faction-stacking-for-good#latest
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/604894/is-pvp-actually-fixed-now#latest
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/461407/highest-ammount-of-kills-bg#latest
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/604846/pvp-queue#latest
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/592389/armory-station-npc-in-cyrodiil#latest

    To me it looks like that whenever a mod feels like it and is having some free time they do the most needed cleaning and everything else is some sort of bonus.
    I'm but a sarcastic beef jerky. Irony and cynicism are my parents. You've been warned.
  • VaranisArano
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    It's far easier to just ignore a thread you don't care about

    And that's the exact problem: i don't know if it's about PvP or not before i read it. I don't want to waste my time reading it only to realise that i did just that - wasting my time. That's why i want them being moved.

    If you think something needs to be moved to a subforum, you can always DM a moderator and ask them to move it. You might even be able to report it and ask for it to be moved in your report. They may or may not agree with you that it needs to be moved.
    Edited by VaranisArano on May 12, 2022 6:53PM
  • Kisakee
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    It's far easier to just ignore a thread you don't care about

    And that's the exact problem: i don't know if it's about PvP or not before i read it. I don't want to waste my time reading it only to realise that i did just that - wasting my time. That's why i want them being moved.

    If you think something needs to be moved to a subforum, you can always DM a moderator and ask them to move it. You might even be able to report it and ask for it to be moved in your report. They may or may not agree with you that it needs to be moved.

    That would be the exact opposite of what this thread is aiming at.
    Edited by Kisakee on May 12, 2022 7:23PM
    I'm but a sarcastic beef jerky. Irony and cynicism are my parents. You've been warned.
  • VaranisArano
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    Kisakee wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    It's far easier to just ignore a thread you don't care about

    And that's the exact problem: i don't know if it's about PvP or not before i read it. I don't want to waste my time reading it only to realise that i did just that - wasting my time. That's why i want them being moved.

    If you think something needs to be moved to a subforum, you can always DM a moderator and ask them to move it. You might even be able to report it and ask for it to be moved in your report. They may or may not agree with you that it needs to be moved.

    That would be the exact opposite of what this thread is aiming at.

    I think I get it - you want the mods to be more vigilant about letting PVP threads stay in the General Discussion forum without you having to do or say anything.

    But when the mods don't move something that you think needs to be moved, you are capable of taking action yourself. Perhaps they'll even get the hint and step up enforcement of the subforums.

    It's no skin off my nose if you do something or nothing. I use Recent Discussions precisely so I don't miss discussions that get moved to less frequented subforums than General.
  • Crispen_Longbow
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    Kisakee wrote: »
    Threads are getting moved to the fitting section if a mod feels the need of it:
    v30llan58blx.jpg


    I've never seen a PvP topic being moved though. About half of the PvP topics aren't flagged as such so you read the title and most of the post only to realise that you wasted your time on something that doesn't affect you. So why aren't they moved and can we make it happen?

    Considering you don't read PVP topics you wouldn't be aware of when they move. They move PVP topics all the time. Now you know. They move them when they feel they should be moved.

    So they move at least some threads. That's nice to know, thanks for the info. But what about these:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/604770/6-simple-tricks-any-player-can-do-to-stop-faction-stacking-for-good#latest
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/604894/is-pvp-actually-fixed-now#latest
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/461407/highest-ammount-of-kills-bg#latest
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/604846/pvp-queue#latest
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/592389/armory-station-npc-in-cyrodiil#latest

    Most people, in the PVP sections, are veterans and not new players. It doesn't really help to post beginner info to veteran players. That is why the post authors are posting in general and not the pvp only sections. They feel the right audience or attention is posting where they posted the thread.
    To me it looks like that whenever a mod feels like it and is having some free time they do the most needed cleaning and everything else is some sort of bonus.

    Yep, just like all businesses. Their resources are used in the most needed areas and then whatever time they have left over move over to non critical issues.

    Most of us pvpers are just thrilled that ZoS fixed our lag issues. We are trying to bring back our old friends that left the game or simply quit pvping because of it.

    You should try out PVP again now that lag is the best it has been in years. Ping me in game and I would be glad to help you out.


    Edited by Crispen_Longbow on May 13, 2022 7:41PM
    Crispen Longbow - Daggerfall Covenant (DC): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - RIP (Blue VE, Khole, LoM, MO)
    Crispen Longboww - Aldmeri Dominion (AD): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - Crispen's House of Pain RIP (KP, Yellow VE, Omni)
    Crispen Longbow-EP - Ebonheart Pact (EP): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - RIP (Red VE)
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