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Piercing Javelin: This ability and its morphs now bypass block to live up to their name

  • VarisVaris
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    Vevvev wrote: »
    VarisVaris wrote: »
    Just remember fossilize for dragon knights it’s going be way better stun. Since you can’t block or roll dodge it. And javilen you can dodge it.

    The meteor combo best best suited for dks

    This is wrong, fossilize deals less damage and magdk isn't able to squeeze nearly as much burst into a single gcd as Templar is able to.

    Get 3 stacks of Seething Fury, make sure Flames of Oblivion is up, make sure target is afflicted by Engulfing Flames, cast Shooting Star, wait, Petrify the target, and then hit them with Molten Whip right as Meteor connects with hopefully a Flames of Oblivion fireball coming in. Equivalent of double ulting someone if you pull it off right.

    That molten whip isn't guaranteed to hit in this scenario and therefore your statement is wrong.
  • Vevvev
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    VarisVaris wrote: »
    Vevvev wrote: »
    VarisVaris wrote: »
    Just remember fossilize for dragon knights it’s going be way better stun. Since you can’t block or roll dodge it. And javilen you can dodge it.

    The meteor combo best best suited for dks

    This is wrong, fossilize deals less damage and magdk isn't able to squeeze nearly as much burst into a single gcd as Templar is able to.

    Get 3 stacks of Seething Fury, make sure Flames of Oblivion is up, make sure target is afflicted by Engulfing Flames, cast Shooting Star, wait, Petrify the target, and then hit them with Molten Whip right as Meteor connects with hopefully a Flames of Oblivion fireball coming in. Equivalent of double ulting someone if you pull it off right.

    That molten whip isn't guaranteed to hit in this scenario and therefore your statement is wrong.

    Not really, as long as the stacks don't expire you can do a follow up hit. Only when the whip strike lands are the 3 stacks of seething fury consumed.

    It is not like old Flame Lash where if you miss the Power Lash you're tough out of luck, or like old Molten Whip where you only had a 5 second window. You have a 10 second window now to get that hit in, and if the guy is dodge rolling use Engulfing Flames to guarantee hits. Sure the burst is now ruined, but the kill is almost guaranteed.
    Edited by Vevvev on February 28, 2022 8:02PM
    PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK
  • acw37162
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    Logical, you have to have something more annoying then the last annoying thing is not as annoying, of course.
  • Alchimiste1
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    Vevvev wrote: »
    VarisVaris wrote: »
    Vevvev wrote: »
    VarisVaris wrote: »
    Just remember fossilize for dragon knights it’s going be way better stun. Since you can’t block or roll dodge it. And javilen you can dodge it.

    The meteor combo best best suited for dks

    This is wrong, fossilize deals less damage and magdk isn't able to squeeze nearly as much burst into a single gcd as Templar is able to.

    Get 3 stacks of Seething Fury, make sure Flames of Oblivion is up, make sure target is afflicted by Engulfing Flames, cast Shooting Star, wait, Petrify the target, and then hit them with Molten Whip right as Meteor connects with hopefully a Flames of Oblivion fireball coming in. Equivalent of double ulting someone if you pull it off right.

    That molten whip isn't guaranteed to hit in this scenario and therefore your statement is wrong.

    Not really, as long as the stacks don't expire you can do a follow up hit. Only when the whip strike lands are the 3 stacks of seething fury consumed.

    It is not like old Flame Lash where if you miss the Power Lash you're tough out of luck, or like old Molten Whip where you only had a 5 second window. You have a 10 second window now to get that hit in, and if the guy is dodge rolling use Engulfing Flames to guarantee hits. Sure the burst is now ruined, but the kill is almost guaranteed.

    you can roll dodge the molten follow up again, or block it while using vigor/rr or a burst heal. templar burst would be immediate in the same gcd and can have a higher burst and can all be done from range.

    unblockable javelin is a terrible combat decision but as time has shown devs never go back on what they think is good until at least a patch later, even if the players tell them otherwise.
    Edited by Alchimiste1 on March 2, 2022 5:48AM
  • HowlKimchi
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    I believe that easy classes should exist in every game since there are people of various skill levels who want to enjoy all possible game modes, and I believe magplar fills that role what with how good their defenses are, how a lot of their offensive kit is undodgeable, and how flexible the class is. I dont think they needed this unblockable decent damage stun.

    Right now im sure the people maining this class are happy, but knowing how ZoS over-nerfs skills that they didnt even need to buff in the first place , I say enjoy it while it lasts guys because it's gonna end up worse than how it was originally.
    Edited by HowlKimchi on March 7, 2022 3:07PM
    previously @HaruKamui but I outgrew my weeb phase (probably)

    PC/NA - EP - Howl Bragi/Howl Kimchi
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