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Update 33 Combat Preview

ZOS_Gilliam
ZOS_Gilliam
Combat Team
Greetings everyone,

Today, the combat team would like to you officially welcome you to 2022 by giving you some insight on what’s coming to combat in the first update of the year! We’ve been keeping a close eye on all the adjustments we made over 2021 and we’re relatively happy with how the game has been evolving combat wise with character expression and freedom of build choices, and we are dedicated to continuing this work through and through where it matters most.

In Update 33, the changes are focused on making almost every player ability in the game scale dynamically with your highest offensive stats when applicable. Similar to what we’ve worked on with passives and item sets, we want to ensure you feel empowered to pick an ability or weapon based on the gameplay mechanics and expression they offer you first and foremost, with fewer restrictions. This means any ability that used to scale exclusively with Spell Damage and Max Magicka will now dynamically scale with Weapon Damage and Max Stamina, and vice versa. With this, we want to retain the identity of many playstyles by reinforcing ability cost as a limiting factor in how frequently you can engage with abilities, but with less concern as to how powerful that ability is based on what stat path you’ve chosen.

We’ll also be dual sourcing buffs on abilities and item sets like Major Prophecy with Major Savagery, with the same thing applying to Brutality and Sorcery. In the long term, we plan on simply merging these bonuses so there are fewer names and effects you need to worry about, but there’s a lot of behind-the-scenes work that will result from that; as such, it may take quite some time before we’re able to do that.

In addition to the continuation of hybridization, we’ve also gone through many abilities and cleaned up some of their functionalities, making sure the ones that aren’t used as often received some sprucing up to make them feel more up to par with abilities of their like. This is in addition to the usual bug fixing and back-end improvements and targeting of outlier abilities or sets for balance adjustments. Some of these are larger in adjustment, such as Power Bash’s new functionality of being treated as a Bash attack, or Piercing Javelin’s new functionality of living up to its name and piercing through block. Most of the adjustments are not as flashy or different but instead gain added quality of life improvements like increased durations for easier management or scaling adjustments. For example, the morphs of Lotus Flower giving you the choice of gaining more healing overall or a significantly longer uptime for less micromanagement.

That wraps up this update’s combat adjustments! While the number of changes is by no means small, with the hybrid work we’ve been doing in the past, we hope this pass is far less turbulent than things have been recently. The goal here is to open the door to more build freedom and diversity. For some players, we know such changes will instill a sense of needing to spend time and effort changing your loadouts, but we believe the long-term benefits will be worth it. Thanks for reading and we hope to see you all in Tamriel!
ESO Combat Designer
Staff Post
  • sonwon.1_ESO
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    Since weaving is allowed with light attacks shouldn't weaving also work with heavy attacks?
  • luen79rwb17_ESO
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    Yesterday was like: "only minor tweaks to combat"

    Today I'm like: "wuuut?!!"

    This is reading amazing, sounds simple but ground breaking.

    A few things to look forward tho. Do all stats count in an additive way? So if I have 1k Stam and 1kMag it's the same power gain as if I only had 2k Stam or 2K Mag alone?

    Does shield, heal have this rule too?

    Can't wait to know more about this!
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  • dinokstrunz
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    These changes sound pretty dramatic. I would imagine a lot of skills would be some serious tuning, dealing damage and survivability would be going through the roof.
  • BuildMan
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    Hmm, I am going to be watching closely on this.
  • etchedpixels
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    Play as you like .. .providing it's 64 stam or 64 mag.

    Doesn't address the real issues in the system
    - Linear scaling leading to stupid min/max build choices (other games use curves so it's harder and harder to stack any given thing the more you have and balance matters)
    - No consideration for hybrids (should be based off sums of weapon/spell damage if you merge them), so you can't stack defensive health and damage but you can actually build hybrids instead of "hybridisation" meaning "all stam or all magicka"

    Will be interesting to see how it pans out on the PTS, along with the new sets one of which is clearly totally over the top and needs fixing ASAP.
    Too many toons not enough time
  • NerfSeige
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    CyberOnEso wrote: »
    Sounds great!

    Would love to see heavy attacks restore your dominant (or both) resources, just for quality of life so you don't need to switch to your off bar if you need to heavy attack.

    Both resources maybe but not dominant, it will be punishing for melee mag toons on pvp.
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    Skinny-meta-fake, graded D, and can’t explain the law of diminishing marginal returns.

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  • EF321
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    YES. I like that.
    Stamsorc proc'ing frags with streak and dark deal. And fury usable!
  • cro25519
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    After reading this Gilliam. I just want to say, I love you man.

    I'm so hyped to test it. Thanks a lot!
  • ZiggyTStardust
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    This might make some people really tanky in pvp, since you can now use powerful heals like vigor and intensive mender (and rapid regeneration) on one character
  • Drdeath20
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    This is really good to hear, thank you!
  • Sarannah
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    Thanks for the update.

    I do agree with some players above me.When you make abilities only have either a stamina or magicka morph, there will only be one obvious choice. Maybe allow players to choose which resource any ability uses(mainly for class skills), regardless of which morph we choose.

    Adding both spell and weapon damage to armor sets seems kind of useless as well, as most sets are either magicka or stamina based. Both as the 1/2/3/4 set bonusses, as well as the type of armor(light/heavy/medium). This change will only work if all setbonusses became both mag/sta as well, and if we as players can choose the type of armor it is. And will these changes also mean you will be merging the weapon/spell damage mundus stones into one mundus boon?

    Other than that, this sounds great. The buffs/debuffs becoming available from multiple sources, and new features added to existing abilities. Keep up the good work!

    Personally I would also love it if light attack weaving and barswapping had less of a damage increasing effect, somehow. Maybe through a small damage bonus if we have not used a light attack, or have not used barswap recently. (10-15% per feature)

    PS: Could we please fix the 1 second unsheathing delay when casting a skill. This delay makes the combat feel like it is lagging all the time, and negates the use of ranged skills. As we will be next to the target before our ranged ability even fires.
  • Rex-Umbra
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    After yesterdays. This is exciting and can't wait to hopefully finally be able to play how I want and use the abilities I want to use.
    Xbox GT: Rex Umbrah
    GM of IMPERIUM since 2015.
  • ZiggyTStardust
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    Sarannah wrote: »
    Adding both spell and weapon damage to armor sets seems kind of useless as well, as most sets are either magicka or stamina based. Both as the 1/2/3/4 set bonusses, as well as the type of armor(light/heavy/medium). This change will only work if all setbonusses became both mag/sta as well, and if we as players can choose the type of armor it is.
    Well they already hybridized the (non max resoruce) bonuses on armor and it seems to have worked mostly. Running one set on jewlery + weapon mostly removes the downside of the armor type, and since armor passives are also mostly hybridized the downside to being a stam player in light armor aren'T as steep as they once were
  • FrancisCrawford
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    This might make some people really tanky in pvp, since you can now use powerful heals like vigor and intensive mender (and rapid regeneration) on one character

    In general I'm concerned about this forcing everybody into builds that cherry-pick the best skills.

    In particular, while this is probably a global buff to sustain (because one's "off stat" will be more beneficial), please be VERY careful about making offsetting nerfs. Otherwise you'll just be harming a large fraction of the PvE builds already in place.

    Ditto self-healing or anything else.
    Edited by FrancisCrawford on January 28, 2022 5:24PM
  • emilyhyoyeon
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    We’ll also be dual sourcing buffs on abilities and item sets like Major Prophecy with Major Savagery, with the same thing applying to Brutality and Sorcery. In the long term, we plan on simply merging these bonuses so there are fewer names and effects you need to worry about,

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  • Seraphayel
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    Does this mean we can effectively use Staves as Stamina players and Bows as Magicka players and still be competitive and deal the same damage?
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