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Welcome the new worst healer set in the game
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MALIGALIG'S GLOVES
(2 items) Adds x Maximum Magicka
(3 items) Adds x% Healing Done
(4 items) Adds x Weapon and Spell Damage
(5 items) On overhealing yourself or a group member with a Direct Heal, apply Maligalig's Maelstrom to the target for 6 seconds that deals Shock Damage to enemies within 7 meters. This damage is based on 33% of the overhealed amount, up to 3300. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.
You thought prayer shawl was bad. No matter it's time for a set that does less then 1k damage a second. Surely you would slot elemental blockade instead. Crushing shock anyone else?
In what world is this set in anyway decent?
Edited by FeedbackOnly on January 28, 2022 3:07AM (2 items) Adds x Maximum Magicka
(3 items) Adds x% Healing Done
(4 items) Adds x Weapon and Spell Damage
(5 items) On overhealing yourself or a group member with a Direct Heal, apply Maligalig's Maelstrom to the target for 6 seconds that deals Shock Damage to enemies within 7 meters. This damage is based on 33% of the overhealed amount, up to 3300. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.
You thought prayer shawl was bad. No matter it's time for a set that does less then 1k damage a second. Surely you would slot elemental blockade instead. Crushing shock anyone else?
In what world is this set in anyway decent?
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redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I may be reading it wrong, but perhaps it's up to 3300 per tick for 6 seconds, every 10 seconds. In that situation, you might be able to turn overheals into a decent damage source, but if it's as you suggest, it's just horrible.7 -
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✭✭✭✭✭redspecter23 wrote: »I may be reading it wrong, but perhaps it's up to 3300 per tick for 6 seconds, every 10 seconds. In that situation, you might be able to turn overheals into a decent damage source, but if it's as you suggest, it's just horrible.
Good observation. Probably good to withhold feedback on new items until we can see how they actually perform.
Ofc, not suggesting it will be one of the best healing sets ever. Felt I had to add that.
Edited by Amottica on January 28, 2022 3:24AM2 -
RaptorRodeoGod✭✭✭✭✭Could be good with Pale OrderAdd a Scribing skill that works like Arcanist beam.
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Veteran players have been alienated and disengaged from Overland since One Tamriel, due to the lack of difficulty, and pushed into dungeons and trials; the minority of content in the Elder Scrolls Online. We can't take the repetition anymore, fix Overland engagement for Vet players. I don't even care if it's not combat related anymore, just make Overland engaging again.
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Overland difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 10 years. 6 paid expansions. 25 DLCs. 41 game changing updates including One Tamriel, an overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver & Gold as a "you think you do but you don't" - tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game. I'm bored of dungeons, I'm bored of trials; make a personal difficulty slider for overland. Make a self debuff mythic. Literally anything at this point.3 -
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✭✭redspecter23 wrote: »I may be reading it wrong, but perhaps it's up to 3300 per tick for 6 seconds, every 10 seconds. In that situation, you might be able to turn overheals into a decent damage source, but if it's as you suggest, it's just horrible.
I see would definitely change things a lot. This would be a perfect sets for pug healers where group DPS is bad
I apologize I seem to been wrong. This set might actually be over performing! It's time for healers to have a overperforming set 😝
We'll see Monday though because I thought pale order was bad and was convince it wasn't then it turned out it was arch emeny of all healersEdited by FeedbackOnly on January 28, 2022 3:55AM3 -
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✭✭Potentially a good direction though, even if the numbers don't seem quite right.
Shows the devs intent to let healers contribute to the group by ... healing.
Instead of healer builds and sets spending most of their time dealing with buffs debuffs and their own personal damage. And it encourages characters to put some investment into healing amounts to get juicy overheals -- so instead of a crit overheal being a giant number that ultimately is pointless, now it can have a point.
EDIT: My Argonian Templar for trials is overtuned for most dungeon content (still need to set up different armory slot). So while it's quite amusing to crit heal someone for more health than their character even has and bring them from almost dead to perfectly full -- it doesn't really do anything at present besides make a smile.Edited by Fennwitty on January 28, 2022 4:02PMPC NA1 -
Bowser✭✭✭✭✭Too bad the cooldown isn't per target. 3300 x 12 raiders would be a pretty good chunk of damage.6 -
skinnycheeks✭✭✭✭✭I think it seems kind of fun for pug healing dungeons. get a little dmg along with your HoT you are using. and yeah I assume that 3300 is per tick, not over the whole 6s. Cause that would be awful if that was the fully DoT.1 -
ixthUA✭✭✭✭✭This effect can proc on healer or DD, making it completely useless due to limited range (7 meters).
I have a healer build hat can do Vet DLC HM dungeons fine. I will not buy another armory slot and another dungeons DLC (total 3000 crowns) just to make a fun easy dungeon healer.
Considering it's real world money price, this set is very bad.
Spell Power Cure + Master Architect are base game healer sets that are many times better.Edited by ixthUA on January 29, 2022 2:08PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭RaptorRodeoGod wrote: »Could be good with Pale Order
I could see that working rather well with this set as it'd always be active basically.PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK0 -
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✭Will have to see how it actually works but even if it's 3300 per tick, it's still underwhelming to be honest. Was quite disappointed to see it compared to the other sets.
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✭Kindda reminds me of the Trinimac setPC/DC/NAserver
V16 sorc - V16 temp - V16 dk - V1 nb - V1 temp - V1 dk1 -
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✭6 group members getting shock proc damage every seconds for 6 seconds on every over heal proc is not even close "the worst"
if the heal can crit and the damage can crit it will be the new second healers set or magica NB support DPS set
Passive DPS hell it may be better ten SPC in specific fights0 -
Pet✭✭✭Ganondroid wrote: »
That's likely for people who bought the game around launch. It absolutely does come with the game and has for quite some time now.0 -
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✭you're reading into this way too much. From what others have stated range is limiting and the single target is as well.2 -
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✭✭Ganondroid wrote: »
It's part of standard addition now. It comes with game for anyone starting in past couple years2 -
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✭✭dcam86b14_ESO wrote: »you're reading into this way too much. From what others have stated range is limiting and the single target is as well.
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✭✭FeedbackOnly wrote: »dcam86b14_ESO wrote: »you're reading into this way too much. From what others have stated range is limiting and the single target is as well.
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It will only proc off of direct target healing spells. So there is no upkeep whilst using hots. The potential for the over heal to trigger on the healer themselves is a wasted proc, albiet rare as at the very least the tank will be taking damage steady, but you just have to be mindfull of that.
None of this matters though because I dont see this being usefull outside of pug dungeon healing, and in that case we are already at a point where healers are barely needed, and if you are in the healer role, passive hot healing is generally all you ever really need.
Why expend a GCD on an over heal to convert to damage when you can just cover all healing needs passively and dedicate that GCD to a far stronger damage dealing spell.0 -
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✭✭✭RaptorRodeoGod wrote: »Could be good with Pale Order
I could see that working rather well with this set as it'd always be active basically.
Ugh, just what we healers need... more reasons for people to try Pale Order.
Potentially a good direction though, even if the numbers don't seem quite right.
Shows the devs intent to let healers contribute to the group by ... healing.
Instead of healer builds and sets spending most of their time dealing with buffs debuffs and their own personal damage. And it encourages characters to put some investment into healing amounts to get juicy overheals -- so instead of a crit overheal being a giant number that ultimately is pointless, now it can have a point.
EDIT: My Argonian Templar for trials is overtuned for most dungeon content (still need to set up different armory slot). So while it's quite amusing to crit heal someone for more health than their character even has and bring them from almost dead to perfectly full -- it doesn't really do anything at present besides make a smile.
Interesting! I have been advocating for this pretty recently, too, come to think of it. Allow healers to supplement damage by adding damage to heals, so there's less of a gap between bringing a DPS with self heals and a real healer who also can add damage to the fight.
Kinda makes me want to install PTS and try it, but I"ll have to be patient as I don't have enough space for that.0 -
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✭✭Maligalig’s Maelstrom - Light
2 – Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
3 – Adds 4% Healing Done
4 – Adds 129 Weapon and Spell Damage
5 – On overhealing yourself or a group member with a Direct Heal, apply Maligalig’s Maelstrom to the target for 6 seconds that deals Shock Damage to enemies within 7 meters. This damage is based on 33% of the overhealed amount, up to 3300. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.
Lets come back to this now
the highest this set can reach is 1300 damage over 6 secs with a cooldown of 10 secs....
I think this goes back into trash tier no? Not even 1k damage per a second....0 -
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✭✭✭That's not how it works. Utilizing budding seed I was able to get the set to get the set to deal 3700 damage per tic, which happens every other second. That, as an aoe, particularly in trash fights in a trial where you can have potentially 12 targets with this up, has potential. And it's perfect for situations where you use a barrier, thus allowing hots to top everyone off and letting your aoe burst heal to proc the set on multiple targets.0 -
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✭✭That's not how it works. Utilizing budding seed I was able to get the set to get the set to deal 3700 damage per tic, which happens every other second. That, as an aoe, particularly in trash fights in a trial where you can have potentially 12 targets with this up, has potential. And it's perfect for situations where you use a barrier, thus allowing hots to top everyone off and letting your aoe burst heal to proc the set on multiple targets.
3700 is passed 3300 how the world is it working now actually?0 -
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✭✭P.S the tooltip on this suck.... it might be a good set but seriously confusing0 -
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✭✭FeedbackOnly wrote: »P.S the tooltip on this suck.... it might be a good set but seriously confusing
It does what it says...
It puts a buff on the over healed target for 6 seconds. Said buff causes any over healing to trigger a damage proc for X amount based on listed formula. Buff application has a 10 sec. ICD. There shouldnt be any confusion.
If someone is getting it to trigger for 3700 that may be simply due to the base value being adjusted according to the quality of the gear.0 -
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✭✭✭The capped 3300 damage was amplified by other bonuses, so a little above 10% bonus damage on my healer getup from who knows what passives. All that I did was burst heal myself and jump into a pack of wolves, so it was some generic passive.0 -
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✭✭✭A 9900 overheal would trigger 3300 damage per second for 7 seconds? Is that how it works?
Edited by SkaraMinoc on February 6, 2022 1:41AMPC NA1
