Hint on the mystery reward?

Blacknight841 · October 2021

huntgod_ESO wrote: »

Blacknight841 wrote: »

Paying for eso plus for the year …. $180
Buying the Blackwood expansion in June …$40
Getting yet another reward that you already pay for …. Priceless.

The message I got today is that retention of players is not as important as selling the chapter each year, even if that means you have to discount it at 50% and give the 4th quarter content away for free just to increase the numbers.

Subbing for the year is only $139.99, but yeah I am right there with ya. I sub by the year, buy the expansions, usually the collectors version and spend a couple hundred bucks on crowns when they go on sale. Really underwhelmed.

For a long time console players were unable to do a yearly subscription. Most of the players I know didn’t even know about the option to switch to a yearly. So yeah some are still paying the $180 due to all the hassle in switching. But yeah 139$ for the discounted year, you are correct.

BomblePants · October 2021

So… as a sub…. What is my ‘unbelievable’ reward?

wolfie1.0. · October 2021

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

wtlonewolf20 wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

AzuraFan wrote: »

Non-subscriber: Awesome gift!

Subscriber: Sorry, nothing for you.

???

I usually buy the dlc so when my sub has to end I can still use it. So I'm quite happy about this prize and have a sub

which is great if you don't maintain sub or don't sub at all. but there are a lot of us that sub constantly whenever we play. Kind of stinks to be us, and it did a major blow to my desire to do anything with this event.

We still got the Cascading Bounty Box to look forward to.

There's nothing in the cascading bounty boxes that provide enough incentive. A target dummy? I can get one in game at any time. Atunneable stations? I have stacks of writ vouchers.

A house would be worth it. Crowns would be worth it. Even a voucher for a month of eso+ would be worth it.

Fennwitty · October 2021

BomblePants wrote: »

So… as a sub…. What is my ‘unbelievable’ reward?

We could tell you, but you'd find it hard to believe

Gylzyn · October 2021

I have ESO+ which I buy because (a) I can't see myself playing the game comfortably without it and (b) because I want to support ESO. This reward certainly was incredible - incredibly disappointing for me. Half of my characters have got the Pathfinder achievement. I don't see the point of doing it now on the rest of them.

Blacknight841 · October 2021

If they gave only a single crown soul gem as the “mystery prize”, …. ESO+ members could still make more use of it than a free dlc they already pay for.

NettleCarrier · October 2021

As a side note, what are we counting for this meter? What represents 100% filled? How many characters is 100%?

Blacknight841 · October 2021

Blacknight841 wrote: »

If they gave only a single crown soul gem as the “mystery prize”, …. ESO+ members could still make more use of it than a free dlc they already pay for.

Don’t get me wrong, I am happy for the people who aren’t subscribed, But in my mind,…. A “community event” should reward and appeal to the entire community.

huntgod_ESO · October 2021

NettleCarrier wrote: »

As a side note, what are we counting for this meter? What represents 100% filled? How many characters is 100%?

The meter is a marketing gimmick, it doesn't actually link to anything, they just move it to promote community involvement.

Wolf_Eye · October 2021

People's imaginations tend to run wilder than reality. I think it may have been a mistake to mention a mystery reward and let it sit rent free in people's heads for several days. Because there will always be disappointment when the reward isn't as good as the one you made in your head.

If they instead had sprung the free dlc prize on us during the stream, I feel like a lot more people would have....well maybe not have accepted it better, but at least tolerated it better.

So instead of thinking "oh cool, we're all going to get something extra nice" for several days, it would be "oh cool, non-subs and new players are getting something a little extra to encourage them to buy Blackwood".

I'm certainly not complaining; I'm still getting plenty of goodies like a combat dummy and a pet and free transmute tables out of this.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · October 2021

wtlonewolf20 wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

wtlonewolf20 wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

AzuraFan wrote: »

Non-subscriber: Awesome gift!

Subscriber: Sorry, nothing for you.

???

I usually buy the dlc so when my sub has to end I can still use it. So I'm quite happy about this prize and have a sub

which is great if you don't maintain sub or don't sub at all. but there are a lot of us that sub constantly whenever we play. Kind of stinks to be us, and it did a major blow to my desire to do anything with this event.

We still got the Cascading Bounty Box to look forward to.

There's nothing in the cascading bounty boxes that provide enough incentive. A target dummy? I can get one in game at any time. Atunneable stations? I have stacks of writ vouchers.

A house would be worth it. Crowns would be worth it. Even a voucher for a month of eso+ would be worth it.

And how do you know? could get a motif page in there worth millions of gold which is more then enough t to get a house gifted to you and then some.

DarkPicture · October 2021

NettleCarrier wrote: »

As a side note, what are we counting for this meter? What represents 100% filled? How many characters is 100%?

They never shared such thing. Thats why this event is a fake. No one knows numbers which allows them to do anything they want with meter.

whitecrow · October 2021

I guess it's nice that I get to own it for free instead of "rent" it...

TX12001rwb17_ESO · October 2021

whitecrow wrote: »

I guess it's nice that I get to own it for free but I don't repeat dungeons that much so it doesn't do much for me.

This is not a dungeon DLC.

Wolf_Eye · October 2021

whitecrow wrote: »

I guess it's nice that I get to own it for free but I don't repeat dungeons that much so it doesn't do much for me.

? It's not a dungeon dlc, it's a zone dlc.

Araneae6537 · October 2021

Wolf_Eye wrote: »

People's imaginations tend to run wilder than reality. I think it may have been a mistake to mention a mystery reward and let it sit rent free in people's heads for several days. Because there will always be disappointment when the reward isn't as good as the one you made in your head.

If they instead had sprung the free dlc prize on us during the stream, I feel like a lot more people would have....well maybe not have accepted it better, but at least tolerated it better.

So instead of thinking "oh cool, we're all going to get something extra nice" for several days, it would be "oh cool, non-subs and new players are getting something a little extra to encourage them to buy Blackwood".

I'm certainly not complaining; I'm still getting plenty of goodies like a combat dummy and a pet and free transmute tables out of this.

I agree. As an extra surprise during the Stream, that would have been perfectly fine but as a hyped surprise reveal community reward, no, I think that was a mistake. I thought it might possibly be a two-person mount and that would have been disappointing to me as that’s not something I personally want, but it would be an extra reward that we would not have otherwise so that would have been fine. Or it could have been a Crown pack or Fennorian as a companion and I would have cheered!

Now THAT’S my imagination running away! But to find that as a loyal ESO+ subscriber I wasn’t even part of the community reward consideration, that doesn’t feel really good.

Ashryn · October 2021

As someone who has subbed since 2017, I feel like my incredible mystery prize was a kick in the teeth.

whitecrow · October 2021

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

whitecrow wrote: »

I guess it's nice that I get to own it for free but I don't repeat dungeons that much so it doesn't do much for me.

This is not a dungeon DLC.

Yeah sorry I got mixed up and edited my post.

Wolf_Eye · October 2021

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Or it could have been a Crown pack or Fennorian as a companion and I would have cheered! Now THAT’S my imagination running away!

.....I WOULD really really REALLY want Fenn as a companion.....

But I will admit too, yeah that would probably be a long shot. But just in case any developer people are seeing this, totally would love companion Fenn. Just saying.

cyberjanet · October 2021

So does the counter just stick at 34% now?

SilverBride · October 2021

As a subscriber I feel like I should be outraged, but honestly I'm just indifferent.

Wolf_Eye · October 2021

cyberjanet wrote: »

So does the counter just stick at 34% now?

In previous events where they did a counter, they mentioned once that the counter is only updated once per day. Usually in the morning sometime EST or EDT.

BalticBlues · October 2021

Ashryn wrote: »

As someone who has subbed since 2017
I feel like my incredible mystery prize was a kick in the teeth.

Wow, they probably are giving away an entire DLC for free.
Isn't this awesome... but you feel like getting kicked in the teeth?
Why can't you be happy for all the people without ESO+ to enjoy?

If you cannot be happy for other people
you probably won't be happy for a lot of your life...
Because you get the most happiness in life
when the people around you are happy.

Perhaps some people already forgot what real life is about?
Life is about making other people happy.
Then getting this happiness back is better than anything else...

Blacknight841 · October 2021

SilverBride wrote: »

As a subscriber I feel like I should be outraged, but honestly I'm just indifferent.

That’s because deep down, you knew something like this was coming.

Vevvev · October 2021

BalticBlues wrote: »

Ashryn wrote: »

As someone who has subbed since 2017
I feel like my incredible mystery prize was a kick in the teeth.

Wow, they probably are giving away an entire DLC for free.
Isn't this awesome... but you feel like getting kicked in the teeth?
Why can't you be happy for all the people without ESO+ to enjoy?

If you cannot be happy for other people
you probably won't be happy for a lot of your life...
Because you get the most happiness in life
when the people around you are happy.

Perhaps some people already forgot what real life is about?
Life is about making other people happy.
Then getting this happiness back is better than anything else...

Um... There are people I know without the sub completely confused by this. I don't know anyone actually happy about this, especially since probably half of the story in the DLC is locked behind owning and beating Blackwood. If they couldn't afford the DLC to be happy about it they are not actually getting the whole thing for free since they probably don't own Blackwood.

BalticBlues · October 2021

Khaleesi8688 wrote: »

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Ashryn · October 2021

BalticBlues wrote: »

Ashryn wrote: »

As someone who has subbed since 2017
I feel like my incredible mystery prize was a kick in the teeth.

Wow, they probably are giving away an entire DLC for free.
Isn't this awesome... but you feel like getting kicked in the teeth?
Why can't you be happy for all the people without ESO+ to enjoy?

If you cannot be happy for other people
you probably won't be happy for a lot of your life...
Because you get the most happiness in life
when the people around you are happy.

Perhaps some people already forgot what real life is about?
Life is about making other people happy.
Then getting this happiness back is better than anything else...

Actually, I was happy to pay a sub all these years and help keep this game going so that those 'other people' could play it free. This is a community event that WE ALL were led to believe was for EVERYONE; something where EVERYONE would be working towards an awesome prize. It wasn't an event that was held to benefit the poor 'other people', now was it?

Alphawolf01A · October 2021

BalticBlues wrote: »

Ashryn wrote: »

As someone who has subbed since 2017
I feel like my incredible mystery prize was a kick in the teeth.

Wow, they probably are giving away an entire DLC for free.
Isn't this awesome... but you feel like getting kicked in the teeth?
Why can't you be happy for all the people without ESO+ to enjoy?

If you cannot be happy for other people
you probably won't be happy for a lot of your life...
Because you get the most happiness in life
when the people around you are happy.

Perhaps some people already forgot what real life is about?
Life is about making other people happy.
Then getting this happiness back is better than anything else...

News flash! Real life doesn't work that way.

colossalvoids · October 2021

Vevvev wrote: »

BalticBlues wrote: »

Ashryn wrote: »

As someone who has subbed since 2017
I feel like my incredible mystery prize was a kick in the teeth.

Wow, they probably are giving away an entire DLC for free.
Isn't this awesome... but you feel like getting kicked in the teeth?
Why can't you be happy for all the people without ESO+ to enjoy?

If you cannot be happy for other people
you probably won't be happy for a lot of your life...
Because you get the most happiness in life
when the people around you are happy.

Perhaps some people already forgot what real life is about?
Life is about making other people happy.
Then getting this happiness back is better than anything else...

Um... There are people I know without the sub completely confused by this. I don't know anyone actually happy about this, especially since probably half of the story in the DLC is locked behind owning and beating Blackwood. If they couldn't afford the DLC to be happy about it they are not actually getting the whole thing for free since they probably don't own Blackwood.

Only backwood owners would get it for "free", so they're getting full story anyway if eligible to claim it.

Some would be happy about such reward for sure, not only new players. A lot of people I know left subscription because game issues be it pvp or pve so that's a something for us to be more-less happy about it and be engaged. It's surely better than some costumes, pets or other vanity they would probably shove there if not dlc.

It's suck for current eso plus members but the game isn't trying to cater to the oldest and more dedicated players anyway for the longest time, pvp and endgame pve are left for their own, even rpers have not much hope left. All they care about is Blackwood sales numbers right now and that deal would make people pay for sure, new account is what matters to them. 19 mil of accounts versus actual thousands of active players, they've made their choices long time ago.

Vevvev · October 2021

colossalvoids wrote: »

Vevvev wrote: »

BalticBlues wrote: »

Ashryn wrote: »

As someone who has subbed since 2017
I feel like my incredible mystery prize was a kick in the teeth.

Wow, they probably are giving away an entire DLC for free.
Isn't this awesome... but you feel like getting kicked in the teeth?
Why can't you be happy for all the people without ESO+ to enjoy?

If you cannot be happy for other people
you probably won't be happy for a lot of your life...
Because you get the most happiness in life
when the people around you are happy.

Perhaps some people already forgot what real life is about?
Life is about making other people happy.
Then getting this happiness back is better than anything else...

Um... There are people I know without the sub completely confused by this. I don't know anyone actually happy about this, especially since probably half of the story in the DLC is locked behind owning and beating Blackwood. If they couldn't afford the DLC to be happy about it they are not actually getting the whole thing for free since they probably don't own Blackwood.

Only backwood owners would get it for "free", so they're getting full story anyway if eligible to claim it.

Oh, well teaches me to not read, lol. Still though, talk about a massive let down for a lot of people, especially due to the lack of an alternate reward for the subscribers.