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Armory system in U32, no more full build changes pains

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Should i spam threads more? Possibly, but thats the thing Rich was spoiling kind of on streams avoiding answering but it's actually would be available on PTS next monday.

Armory furnishing or assistant, build loadouts (10 build slots for gear, CP, curses like vamp/werewolf, atributes etc.) probably the most asked feature for years, i finally can say that zos spending their time right and building into the future.
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  • Ratzkifal
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    *10 build slots, out of which only 2 are free and the rest needs to be unlocked with crowns
    Edited by Ratzkifal on September 17, 2021 9:12PM
    This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
  • ZOS_Kevin
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    Glad you're happy about the new feature! Definitely let us know what you think on PTS next week!
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  • Andre_Noir
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    It's not because they will sell build slots in crownstore, right ? :trollface:
    To be clear: PER CHARACTER
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    I'm very pleased by this but they really should put a station into the Alliance bases in Cyrodiil so that PvP players can still conveniently use the system.
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    Andre_Noir wrote: »
    It's not because they will sell build slots in crownstore, right ? :trollface:
    To be clear: PER CHARACTER

    some are never happy :-P
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    Andre_Noir wrote: »
    It's not because they will sell build slots in crownstore, right ? :trollface:
    To be clear: PER CHARACTER

    Per character??? Looks like I missed that. That's honestly disgusting. Same stuff as with the outfit system. Instead of just letting us have something nice or at least giving us 3 slots for tank, heal and DD they had to give us the smallest amount possible without the feature becoming nonexistant and sell us the rest as if we aren't already buying chapters, paying for ESO+ and buying cosmetics and houses...
    This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
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    Ratzkifal wrote: »
    *10 build slots, out of which only 2 are free and the rest needs to be unlocked with crowns

    #1 - PvP √
    #2 - PvE √ main role DD/Heal or Tank
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    #3 alternate role DD/Heal or Tank
    #4 alternate role DD/Heal or Tank
    #5 RP
    #6 ERP
    #7 Trash fights
    #8 Fishing
    #9 Thief
    #10 Murder

    How many slots you need?
    Main: (PvP & PvE)
    Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige

    PvP:
    Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
    Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
    Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
    Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
    Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer

    PvP: (Specialty)
    Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
    Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
    Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
    Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden

    PvE:
    Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
    Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
    Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
    Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
    Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade

    Leveling...
    Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
    Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
    Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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    Passives of another race used. (RP)
    *Breton
    **Imperial




    __________________________Backstories:_________________________

    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

    Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
    PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion

  • SydneyGrey
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    Love this! This is a great change.
  • Luke_Flamesword
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    Don't forget about Armory Assistant, probably for 5k crowns like merchant and banker, because why just give option to keybind like addons did :D
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    Kind sad to hear that it doesn't pull gear from your bank or housing storage, because it sounds like a big leap backwards in terms of inventory management.

    My least favorite and most often visited activity in game.
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  • colossalvoids
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    Ratzkifal wrote: »
    *10 build slots, out of which only 2 are free and the rest needs to be unlocked with crowns

    As always, I'm surprised it's even two lol, but unlike outfit slots they're actually a bargain at any price.
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    Great addition but the assistant doesn't let you change anything in trials so will this even be used on PC and it still doesn't let console try and compete with the scores set on PC. Makes more sense to allow the assistant everywhere but PVP...
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    This is exciting! Any word on whether this will affect Mundus boon as well?
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    Kalik_Gold wrote: »
    Ratzkifal wrote: »
    *10 build slots, out of which only 2 are free and the rest needs to be unlocked with crowns

    #1 - PvP √
    #2 - PvE √ main role DD/Heal or Tank
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    #3 alternate role DD/Heal or Tank
    #4 alternate role DD/Heal or Tank
    #5 RP
    #6 ERP
    #7 Trash fights
    #8 Fishing
    #9 Thief
    #10 Murder

    How many slots you need?

    Well, when I was using dressing room on my PvE healer I had 20 loadouts for different set combinations. So the feature certainly isn't replacing that.
    But I was hoping you could at least get
    1. tank
    2. heal
    3. DD
    and if we are being generous
    #4 DD using the other resource
    #5 PvP

    The feature isn't entirely useless, since I can now be a vampire for RP but when I actually want to do content I can just turn my vampirism off. So ZOS fixed the botched vampire rework by giving us a way to turn it off without concern. And I will use the PvP/PvE switch on one of my characters as well.
    But I certainly have some characters that this feature doesn't do anything for if it just stays at 2 slots because given the chance I would be doing all 3 PvE roles (or 2 and PvP) on them.
    This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
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    Feljax wrote: »
    This is exciting! Any word on whether this will affect Mundus boon as well?

    They said it won't.
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    Feljax wrote: »
    This is exciting! Any word on whether this will affect Mundus boon as well?

    It does not handle mundus stones

    Edit: I can imagine because that would impact mundus stone sales for housing.. :#
    Edited by Caligamy_ESO on September 17, 2021 9:26PM
    love is love
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    Feljax wrote: »
    This is exciting! Any word on whether this will affect Mundus boon as well?

    They said no
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    It's a great feature, but with only 2 slots and character based unlocks, I'll be sticking with the current method of using addons for everyday swaps.

    However, that's from my perspective as an altaholic. I have 18 toons that I would have to purchase extra slots for in order to get maximum use out of the system. This will be much more beneficial to those that play fewer toons or even just a single toon.

    I could see using it as a vampire/werewolf toggle button to quickly swap between those two forms without requiring a new bite and running the quest so even just that functionality will be nice.

    A bit confusing that it can't copy over your mundus stone which will potentially limit the usefulness in instances. Also, by the sounds of it, you can't use the assistant in any vet trials or arenas. It makes sense, but again, it's another reason to stick with the addon option if it's available.
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    So now we know why they took our passives and made them slotable. So they could sell us the solution to the new problem. Build slots.
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    As always, I'm surprised it's even two lol,
    Well, with one slot there is not much switching, so it would be pointless - two are total minimum and that's what we will get.
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  • Gederic
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    They were so satisfied when they announced that they had made a worse version of an addon lol.

    Woo, I'm sure it will be 5k crowns (plus crowns for build slots) for a worse version of Alpha Gear or Dressing Room! And I can't use it in arenas, trials, or Cyrodiil? Incredible!
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    Love the idea of being able to swap between a PVE and PVP setup in a far easier manor.
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    between those two forms without requiring a new bite and running the quest so even just that functionality will be nice.

    A bit confusing that it can't copy over your mundus stone which will potentially limit the usefulness in instances. Also, by the sounds of it, you can't use the assistant in any vet trials or arenas. It makes sense, but again, it's another reason to stick with the addon option if it's available.

    I will not be surprised if the API loses the hooks for gear changes. Remember pre-buffing in trials? The devs had to alter a lot of sets to "break" pre-buffing. Now the trash/boss duality (whatever, first word I thought of)? I would NOT be surprised at all if addons lost the ability to access builds to the current extent. Thus, PC raids would only have 1 setup per run, just like console.
    Edited by CaffeinatedMayhem on September 17, 2021 9:38PM
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    I guess it's a valid way for tanks to change their attributes from all health to all mag/stam and CPs from mitigation to damage boosters for free.
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    between those two forms without requiring a new bite and running the quest so even just that functionality will be nice.

    A bit confusing that it can't copy over your mundus stone which will potentially limit the usefulness in instances. Also, by the sounds of it, you can't use the assistant in any vet trials or arenas. It makes sense, but again, it's another reason to stick with the addon option if it's available.

    I will not be surprised if the API loses the hooks for gear changes. Remember pre-buffing in trials? The devs had to alter a lot of sets to "break" pre-buffing. Now the trash/boss duality? I would NOT be surprised at all if addons lost the ability to access builds to the current extent. Thus, PC raids would only have 1 setup per run, just like console.

    It will be very disappointing if this new system also comes with the addition of removing the functionality of addons at the same time. It would be very petty to provide a weaker version of an addon... with a paywall... then remove the option to use the addon as well. I'll cross my fingers and hope that they don't go that route.
  • Gederic
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    100% sneaky API changes incoming to disable these addons.
    Ours is the Fury
  • Luke_Flamesword
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    I hope that they will not block addons, because I plan to mix this new feature with addons (I won't buy new slots for switching gear or couple skills only).
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  • CaffeinatedMayhem
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    between those two forms without requiring a new bite and running the quest so even just that functionality will be nice.

    A bit confusing that it can't copy over your mundus stone which will potentially limit the usefulness in instances. Also, by the sounds of it, you can't use the assistant in any vet trials or arenas. It makes sense, but again, it's another reason to stick with the addon option if it's available.

    I will not be surprised if the API loses the hooks for gear changes. Remember pre-buffing in trials? The devs had to alter a lot of sets to "break" pre-buffing. Now the trash/boss duality? I would NOT be surprised at all if addons lost the ability to access builds to the current extent. Thus, PC raids would only have 1 setup per run, just like console.

    It will be very disappointing if this new system also comes with the addition of removing the functionality of addons at the same time. It would be very petty to provide a weaker version of an addon... with a paywall... then remove the option to use the addon as well. I'll cross my fingers and hope that they don't go that route.

    Well, paywall is a strong word. Just like outfits you get enough for "free." Console has been clearing titles (trifectas) without gear switching for 7 years. Yes, PC is used to being spoiled, but honestly, that kind of gear grind puts a LOT of players off end-game content. Heck, even grinding out more than 1 set of gear (meta changes at least yearly) puts people off doing advanced content.

    It's healthier for the game if we're a little less min/max focused.
    Edited by CaffeinatedMayhem on September 17, 2021 9:42PM
  • Grandchamp1989
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    nvm
    Edited by Grandchamp1989 on September 17, 2021 9:43PM
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