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Quick Poll: Do you agree with the upcoming changes to Battlegrounds?

Marto
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Just a quick and simple poll to gauge the community's opinion on this change.

In short, ZOS will temporarily change Battleground Queues to be Team Deathmatch-only. They want to gather data and feedback on the change.

You can read more about it here.
Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on September 15, 2021 7:12PM
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Quick Poll: Do you agree with the upcoming changes to Battlegrounds? 218 votes

I agree with the change
33%
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I disagree with the change
49%
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Other
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  • jedtb16_ESO
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    i don't care...
  • fizl101
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    I think they need to give players choice - some players love the the non DM games, some only want to DM
    Soupy twist
  • LashanW
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    I agree with the change
    Yes since it's a test. It's the quickest way to get the amount of data they need.
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  • Ippokrates
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    Many times I have seen ending results like players with really small bodycounts surpasing mastah-of-killah by hundreds of points in ball or flag game... so I don't think that this move would provide a sufficient data (if any) to whatever they want to achieve - in first place they could analyze results of current BG, see correlations between bodycounts and final results, and based on that try to establish what are the proportions between players going for goal and players opting for killing.
  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    As long as its really just a test and dont stay this way like it did with cross healing and proc set in the last 2 pvp test phase

    I dont do battleground often but when i do i prefer the solo queu
  • UglyTriangle
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    I disagree with the change
    I disagree with the change. Disclaimer: I don't regularly PvP.

    I would think it should be possible to keep the random queue in there and have a separate queue specifically for deathmatch. Some people like playing objective-based PvP. Wouldn't they still have the ability to collect data if they had both options?
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  • Sarannah
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    I disagree with the change
    Absolutely hate deathmatch, luckily I barely ever play BG's. Deathmatch is only about overpowered builds and sets, not about tactics and thinking. Which is for me what PvP is about, tactics. That is, whenever I PvP.

    Players who treated every BG like deathmatch, were fools ruining other players their rewards. In my opinion the game would be better off without those toxic players around.

    PS: If you start forcing players into BG deathmatches for the duration of this test, that would be the worst move ever!
    PPS: Aren't there two sets massively broken and overpowered at the moment? Fun test! /s
    PPPS: The only reason some players(not all) only want deathmatch games, is because deathmatch games finish quickly and would grant them more rewards.
    Edited by Sarannah on September 15, 2021 4:28PM
  • OlumoGarbag
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    As long as those 3 proc sets are available it will be unplayable
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  • divnyi
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    I agree with the change
    They need to implement a better solution. Meanwhile, it is better than what we had before.
  • Franchise408
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    I disagree with the change
    I disagree with this change entirely.

    People asked for game types to be added to the queue for people to specify what they want to play. Now there is only 1 game mode that can be played in Battlegrounds altogether.

    I understand that this is temporary, but I 1000000% disagree with just simply removing every other Battleground mode. I for one will not be participating in Deathmatch-only Battlegrounds, as Deathmatch is my least favorite mode of Battlegrounds.
  • Einstein_
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    I agree with the change
    Its a stepp in the right direction, but in my opinion they should rework it completly. Idk when PvPers got something new last time ? IC ?.

    - get rid of the 3-way fights
    - intruduce a 1v1 / 2v2 / 4v4 Deathmatch with ranking.
    - for ppl who enjoy fighting for objectives create a special mod for them....cant wait to see 10 tanks stack on a flag and nobody dies.....
  • Vevvev
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    I hate no-cp but I will admit the change is.... Odd. Despite my dislike for no-cp environments I actually did like the various game modes. Only TDM will get old pretty fast despite being the pure PvP experience. Hopefully it doesn't last too long.
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  • AzuraFan
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    Don't really care because I don't play them much. All I can say is that the few times I've done battlegrounds (for endeavors), it seems like everyone just runs around trying to kill opponents anyway, regardless of the game mode.
  • redspecter23
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    I agree that an option to queue for deathmatch only is a good change for the reasons they outlined. Players were just deathmatching in objective BG's anyway.

    I don't think the other modes need to be removed completely in order to do that, but I'd imagine they are trying to find a way to bring them back at some point.

    I'd love to see a private lobby so you can run BG's with friends/guildmates or even set up BG tournaments. Remove any rewards and incentives if necessary for balance. There would be no reason to eliminate any formats in private lobbies.
  • AngryOldMan
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    I hope that we in the future have 2 options for queue, Deathmatch and other. Then players who play every match as a deathmatch got the possibility to do actual deathmatch, and players who likes to play objective dont have thos deathmatchers to ruin the game.
  • Amerises
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    I disagree with the change
    Well I probably won't be playing DD this go around, but I'll be playing my healer. Basically a death match seems to have one team win who had a full time healer, a second team who had one or two stand out players who know how to fight on the outside of the fight, and a team who is full of random players who gets like 90 points in the 9 minutes before one team reaches 510.

    If the maps were bigger, this DM might be okay, but some maps are so close, that a group with a healer just gets the win since DDs are always within healing.
  • Rugby_hook
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    I disagree with the change
    This is a very poor way to test. There are some people who prefer non-dm matches but will play bg for the xp and quests. Instead they should have created a dm queue and a non-dm queue and get data on how many are queuing for each one.
  • Ratzkifal
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    What do you mean, do I agree with the change? I agree that gathering data is probably a good thing. It's not like they want to remove the other game modes completely. My guess is they want to see if a pure deathmatch queue will cause fatigue and reduce activity over time or if it will do the opposite and make more people play battlegrounds.

    Personally I think ZOS should give out AP for playing the objective in BGs so people are rewarded for - but not forced to -playing the gamemode as intended.
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  • Taggund
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    I disagree with the change
    Not sure how good of a test it is when you have those who prefer the other options no longer playing BGs, unless that is the test, to see how many remain.
  • Feljax
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    If this were a permanent change I would whole-heartedly disagree with it. Since it's a temporary change with the intent of gathering data in order for ZoS to make some informed decisions on the future state of BGs, I can tolerate it for the time being. Although, I for one enjoy all the game modes and don't want to see them lost permanently. Hopefully something good comes out of it.
  • pdblake
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    Doesn't matter to me. I stink at all of them :D
  • TequilaFire
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    I disagree with the change
    It is simple, return to the ability of queueing for the BG mode of choice.
    That way everybody wins.
    Edited by TequilaFire on September 15, 2021 6:41PM
  • Lady_Galadhiel
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    I disagree with the change
    People seem to want the most easy and banal mode out there.
    Kill,kill,kill.
    Like really? Smh

    If there is only DM now,I won't be able to complete other Bg achievements I am missing now for some time?
    Thanks for nothing.
    Edited by Lady_Galadhiel on September 15, 2021 7:08PM
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  • Franchise408
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    I disagree with the change
    It is simple, return to the ability of queueing for the BG mode of choice.
    That way everybody wins.

    This is really the only answer
  • Cirantille
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    I disagree with the change
    I don't understand why they remove options rather than adding more options
    It was the same with no-cp, they could have added a new campaign instead of restricting the one we had
  • Sarannah
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    I disagree with the change
    Thinking about this some more. I feel this change/test should, on the to-fix-list, be WAY below fixing dungeon fake roles/speedrunners. As that is actually something new players run into when they first start out. And abuse which other players experience daily. Any word on that?

    PS: This test also shows, that not playing the BG objectives is allowed. So entering deathmatch BG's and not doing anything is allowed as well?? As that same mentality actually created the test. Strange.
  • Rugby_hook
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    I disagree with the change
    I would be all for it if it was an appropriate way to test this, but it is a horrible design for a study to test if people want dm battleground as separate queue.
  • wolfie1.0.
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    I disagree with the change
    Death match is probably the most boring format in BGs and is basically no different than small scale pvp in IC or cyrodill, and favors people who build towards it solely. Its also often a format that encourages players to just not leave their base if they aren't doing so well.. The other formats at least allow for you to win even though you might not have any kills.
  • Aldoss
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    I disagree with the change
    I will be happy to know that when I press the "queue" button, I know with absolute certainty what mode I will get and I know that I love getting DM.

    However, this isn't the change I asked for. I wanted the CHOICE to queue for DM only. I'd also appreciate the opportunity to queue for random because sometimes the surprise is nice and I do, on occasion, like what happens in an objective based mode.

    This is yet another example of something that is so clear, so plainly obvious, yet ZOS shoves a stick in its own wheel spokes and makes it into a divisive "test experiment".

    We know that ZOS knows what should be done about BGs just like we know that ZOS knows what should be done about Cyro lag... ZOS just doesn't value it enough to implement those actions.

    Another opportunity where ZOS could have gained some love and admiration from both the Objective players and the DM players, but instead chose to squander it. What a disappointment.
  • Dojohoda
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    I disagree with the change
    I'd rather the choices be:
    __Deathmatch
    __All games except deathmatch
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