Why splitting tickets again?

FlopsyPrince

Bekkael wrote: »

I hate IC too, so I got all 6 done earlier on my main. I just go up and down the ladders until I have all quests, then I go in a circle until they are all complete. As soon as I was done, I used the teleport stone to go straight back to base. I find it is less miserable and much quicker if I just completely avoid the sewers.

Anyone looking for the easiest IC daily should do the one where you burn all the ballista and then blow up the forge. That one doesn’t even take 2 minutes to do since you can ride your mount to each location and the objectives don’t dismount you. I ride past all enemy players and NPCs, works great! 😅

Except that gankers love to camp around those ballista!

Bekkael

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Bekkael wrote: »

I hate IC too, so I got all 6 done earlier on my main. I just go up and down the ladders until I have all quests, then I go in a circle until they are all complete. As soon as I was done, I used the teleport stone to go straight back to base. I find it is less miserable and much quicker if I just completely avoid the sewers.

Anyone looking for the easiest IC daily should do the one where you burn all the ballista and then blow up the forge. That one doesn’t even take 2 minutes to do since you can ride your mount to each location and the objectives don’t dismount you. I ride past all enemy players and NPCs, works great! 😅

Except that gankers love to camp around those ballista!

Really? I’m going to guess that must not be a thing on Xbox as much, as I have never encountered it, and/or it could be the time I play is just very quiet without much population. Anyway, it works for me. 😉

Tommy_The_Gun

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Bekkael wrote: »

I hate IC too, so I got all 6 done earlier on my main. I just go up and down the ladders until I have all quests, then I go in a circle until they are all complete. As soon as I was done, I used the teleport stone to go straight back to base. I find it is less miserable and much quicker if I just completely avoid the sewers.

Anyone looking for the easiest IC daily should do the one where you burn all the ballista and then blow up the forge. That one doesn’t even take 2 minutes to do since you can ride your mount to each location and the objectives don’t dismount you. I ride past all enemy players and NPCs, works great! 😅

Except that gankers love to camp around those ballista!

You are right, it happens occasionally. Imagine how desperate one can be to sit there & camp for hours...

There is a way to avoid it though. You just need to be super stealthy, have a decent speed bonus & sneak speed penalty removed. Darloc Brae set + vamp or Nigh silence set for example and some swift jewellery. Wild Hunt ring can also help. Even if they somehow spot you for split second, it will be hard for them to catch you.

Ethar_Miraz

After they changed IC, especially the Arena district (which was full of people back than), noone in their right mind would enter that [Snip].
Now they somehow have to force players to enter IC.
Even during the MM event just a couple of groups roamed the area, mostly farming mobs and bosses.

[Edited for profanity bypass]

ScaniX

I will skip IC, too. So, I get only 1 ticket per day as well.

JoDiMageio

Honest question, though...
What does Zos get out of it if they are indeed "forcing players" into IC? What would be the motivation to do so?

Hurbster

I would imagine that ZoS has regular meetings where they go over the user engagement of each part of the game and seeing how they can increase that engagement.

Dark_Lord_Kuro

Olauron wrote: »

trackdemon5512 wrote: »

MidYear always had tickets in both IC and Cyro.

That is not correct. IC and battlegrounds during Mayhem is the new invention. Previously Mayhem was only about Cyrodiil, IC had separate event featuring both zone and dungeons.

Well its been like that for years (sice 2018 if i remember correctly)
Nothing new

Imperial city still got its event every year (thougt this time, joined with craglorn and orsinium) as a celebration of the imperial city dlc

And midyear is a celebration of anything pvp in the game with the exeption of duel

Lady_Galadhiel

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

Olauron wrote: »

trackdemon5512 wrote: »

MidYear always had tickets in both IC and Cyro.

That is not correct. IC and battlegrounds during Mayhem is the new invention. Previously Mayhem was only about Cyrodiil, IC had separate event featuring both zone and dungeons.

Well its been like that for years (sice 2018 if i remember correctly)
Nothing new

Imperial city still got its event every year (thougt this time, joined with craglorn and orsinium) as a celebration of the imperial city dlc

And midyear is a celebration of anything pvp in the game with the exeption of duel

I was curious about this myself so I looked up the announcements from the Midyear Mayhem event in 2018 and I may be really wrong but there werent even event tickets to earn back then?
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26449

Also in 2019 (the year I started playing ESO),Imperial City wasn't part of the tickets either:
Claim Event Tickets

Throughout Midyear Mayhem you can also earn Event Tickets and purchase the first of the Indrik Berries required to evolve your Nascent Indrik mount into a Dawnwood Indrik mount. This event’s berries are called Dawnwood Berries of Bloom.

To earn Event Tickets during this event, complete any of the following PvP daily quests:
Battleground quests from Battlemaster Rivyn
Scouting, Bounty, Battle, Warfront, and Conquest Missions
Elder Scroll capture and recapture quests
Town quests in Vlastarus, Bruma, Cropsford, Cheydinhal, and Chorrol

In 2020 IC was added to MM for the tickets as I can read.
It seems @Olauron is right about the Imperial City being recently added to the ticket earning during MM.

Ii may have missed some announcements as some years MM took place twice a year.

Olauron

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

Olauron wrote: »

trackdemon5512 wrote: »

MidYear always had tickets in both IC and Cyro.

That is not correct. IC and battlegrounds during Mayhem is the new invention. Previously Mayhem was only about Cyrodiil, IC had separate event featuring both zone and dungeons.

Well its been like that for years (sice 2018 if i remember correctly)
Nothing new

Imperial city still got its event every year (thougt this time, joined with craglorn and orsinium) as a celebration of the imperial city dlc

And midyear is a celebration of anything pvp in the game with the exeption of duel

The Midyear Mayhem event, 07/20/2018 - no tickets
The Midyear Mayhem encore event, 01/08/2019 - tickets, no IC
The Imperial Celebration Event, 09/03/2019 - tickets, IC OR IC dungeons
Midyear Mayhem is back, 01/22/2020 - tickets, Cyrodiil OR Battlegrounds OR IC (When you complete one of these quests, you receive three Event Tickets)
Midyear Mayhem returns, 06/22/2020 - tickets, (Cyrodiil OR Battlegrounds) AND IC (earn up to four Event Tickets per day by completing two different PvP activities, 2/2)
The Imperial City Celebration, 08/27/2020 - tickets, IC OR IC dungeons (you can earn three Event Tickets per day, awarded the first time you either complete)
The Midyear Mayhem in-game event, 01/27/2021 - tickets, (Cyrodiil OR Battlegrounds) AND IC (earn up to three Event Tickets per day by completing two different PvP activities, 2/1 now)
The Midyear Mayhem in-game event, 06/23/2021 - tickets, (Cyrodiil OR Battlegrounds) AND IC (earn up to three Event Tickets per day by completing two different PvP activities, 2/1 again)
Current event: (Craglorn AND Orsinium) AND IC, no IC dungeons

P.S. So much for "we have only one PVP event per year" (not including anniversary).

PunkAben

I believe Zenimax unbraided designer want people to enter PVP areas.
Zenimax haven't noted there PVP have failed totally.
It is madness the make an event for PVP areas, there is some kind of reason for PVP are dead.
This game is not transparent and a lot of people don't wanna play PVP.
So it is really stupid to make an event in PVP areal!

Lady_Galadhiel

@Olauron thanks for clarifying this ,I was curious myself about when the IC ticket thing got implemented in a MM event.
I did remember my first Midyear event was doing one quest and getting all tickets.

Thanks again,awesome and detailed comment

totzummrdave_ESO

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Because everyone hates the IC district quests and no one would do them without being forced. Even if you like IC, those district quests are annoying and tedious.

So only one ticket per day... again... yay...

alberichtano

Marto wrote: »

Simple answer: To encourage players to go to the Imperial City.

ZOS always likes to encourage players to try different things. It keeps all zones and activities populated, and it can make the experience more fresh and varied. It's the same reason why endeavors include things like heists, contracts, and PVP activities.

I really wish they would stop that. IC is a pain in the pooper. Today me and a few guildies tried to avoid the huge zergs of reds and blues, but it was hard doing the dailies when reds were literally guarding and camping Noble's District, and blues did the same to Memorial.

Tried to hunt a boss for the intro-quest, and was ganked. Just pure luck I could respawn and get back to get the boss killed before ganked again.

Having to do that again and again will really harm my inner peace, ZOS. :-(

alberichtano

Jayne_Doe wrote: »

Marto wrote: »

Simple answer: To encourage players to go to the Imperial City.

ZOS always likes to encourage players to try different things. It keeps all zones and activities populated, and it can make the experience more fresh and varied. It's the same reason why endeavors include things like heists, contracts, and PVP activities.

Then they should offer 3 tickets, one for each zone. As it is, all they are encouraging players to do is go to IC. They certainly aren't encouraging players to do Craglorn, since all they have to do is a WB daily in Wrothgar. The Crag dailies aren't that quick to do, though some are quicker than others.

It's also like they are assuming players will just do Wrothgar for the ticket, since they specifically mention that the daily quests are in two different locations. They said nothing about how to get the daily quests in Craglorn, which is basically to wander around looking for NPCs with blue quest markers, LOL.

They could have done two tickets, only with IC being an optional. Do two of the three, whichever two you wish, rather than forcing IC to be one that you HAVE to do.

alberichtano

EF321 wrote: »

If I could just take all the IC dailies at base that would already make it so much more appealing. Can't be bothered to go through all the loading screens or especially doing quests one by one and going home after each.

Yes, that would be great. It is just a waste of time to pick them all up one by one, which I do anyways, since it is madness to do one at a time (I think).

Tan9oSuccka

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

To annoy those of us who want nothing to do with IC.

If you die in game, you still live in real life.

IC is pretty fun during the event. Pure chaos top side. No penalty to dying except the tel var stones which are easy to get back.

Marto

JoDiMageio wrote: »

Honest question, though...
What does Zos get out of it if they are indeed "forcing players" into IC? What would be the motivation to do so?

The same thing any other developer "gets out" of encouraging players to do content.

It's not a grand conspiracy guys. ZOS spent a lot of time, effort and money making Imperial City, as well as the ongoing PVP optimizations and patches. They want that effort to be seen and appreciated, same as any other developer for any other game.

• They want players that have never given IC a try do so, and maybe they'll realize they like it, and stay.
• They want the player counts to be high and the zones populated, to make the experience more fun.
• They want players to try something different. If they were feeling ESO was getting stale and repetitive, encouraging them to do something different might be exactly what's needed to make ESO feel fresh.

Even if you try to look at it with the most cynical capitalist angle possible, they're doing all that because players having fun increases player retention, which increases cash shop purchases.

But it's still not terribly manipulative or anything. There's the FOMO of limited-time events and rewards, but that's inherent to any holiday event.

alberichtano

JoDiMageio wrote: »

I don't really understand the beef with IC, personally.

I am a PvE player. I don't do PvP. I'm not geared for it. I don't enjoy it. I am easy prey, but a disappointing kill since I don't have much Tel Var on me.

Yet I've managed to do all the quests, including the main one in IC, with little to no grief. The storyline is actually one of the better ones in the game. It's not my fave content simply because I am constantly nervous about being shanked, but it's not the worst thing, either. And the dailies are easy to accomplish.

As for people saying they are "forced" to do content they don't like... you're not. You don't have to. Your choice just has consequences that you may not like, such as missing out on a ticket.

Just like I'm sure the PvPers are giddy at having to do the stupid, repetitive quests during New Life...

What I have always liked about ESO is that they try to make things accessible for all... Don't like PVP, you can still get a quest for PvE content. Don't like PvP, head out to the gankfest in IC. No one is completely left out, which in my view is much better than totally excluding one part of the player population during an event, which other events are guilty of, offering little to nothing for PvPers.

As to the OP, this is why I think they split the tickets... give everyone a chance to get some. And perhaps discover content they never tried or were afraid to try. It's the perfect opportunity for guilds to organise events, which in some cases serve as an introduction to PvP to new players in a "relatively" safe environment (I learned a lot about the importance of blocking when capturing a flag in IC from my guildmates... or rather their mass deaths )

There is a difference though. I get that PvP-ers might not like PvE content, I do. But we PvE-ers do not actively grief them, block them, stop them and harass them, camping all bosses in a vital area and taking them down just so they can't get their quest done (nor could we even if we wanted).

PvP-ers, however, can and do act just like that. I know, I know, "it is part of the game". It is just a part that many find not just boring, but indeed distressing.

In my dream world, there would be PvE-versions of IC and Cyrodiil. Never gonna happen, but it would be nice.

xTAKISx

If you are all caught up on pet and mount pieces there is no reason you should be chasing tickets, unless only to get to 12 and wait for next event to spend on mount piece.

FlopsyPrince

xTAKISx wrote: »

If you are all caught up on pet and mount pieces there is no reason you should be chasing tickets, unless only to get to 12 and wait for next event to spend on mount piece.

I am not sure if it will be worthwhile for me since I failed to get the final part 2 events ago and now am full. Hopefully I can make something useful.

joerginger

Marto wrote: »

ZOS spent a lot of time, effort and money making Imperial City, as well as the ongoing PVP optimizations and patches. They want that effort to be seen and appreciated, same as any other developer for any other game.

• They want players that have never given IC a try do so, and maybe they'll realize they like it, and stay.

Sure, fine, understood. Let them have their fun.
But three frigging times a year? THREE TIMES? Why?

Stay? In the IC? LOL.

Minyassa

You know how some parents are content just to have their kids eat a balanced nutrition however it gets into them, and others insist that their kids have to eat brussels sprouts/broccoli/liver/some other vile thing whenever they get the excuse to make them? ZOS is the latter type. If we don't eat the vileness we don't get dessert.

SteveCampsOut

Marto wrote: »

Simple answer: To encourage players to go to the Imperial City.

ZOS always likes to encourage players to try different things. It keeps all zones and activities populated, and it can make the experience more fresh and varied. It's the same reason why endeavors include things like heists, contracts, and PVP activities.

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

supersonic_kitten

I don't have any issue with IC and in fact I quite enjoy it during events, but I hate the concept of splitting tickets between zones with a passion. Especially during an event like this one where there's so much stuff going on.
List of what I want to do: farm Tel Var in IC through quests or sewer roaming, farm vDSA for double gear drops, farm vMA for double gear drops and the MA style pages, get event tickets enough for the mount part and for the next event.
All of that obviously takes a lot of time even without doing the boring ticket dailies. Meanwhile me after work:
Seriously why couldn't they have made it so you get 2 event tickets for killing any WB in the zone or the last boss in any of the arenas or something. Such a pain.

Dzadzey

Lady_Galadhiel wrote: »

During the Year One Celebration, you can earn up to two Event Tickets per day by completing the following:
One Event Ticket for completing a Daily Quest in Wrothgar or Craglorn
One Event Ticket for completing a District Daily Quest in the Imperial City

Isn't it enough that during Midyear Mayhem we have to go into 2 different zones to earn tickets?
I mean I get it,its 3 zones but my playtime is limited and I would like to farm some DSA and MA during double loot but I wont be able to because I will sit in IC for like 30 minutes trying to complete a district quest.

I will see myself rather skipping the ticket thing this time and go for the double loot instead.

You go to the IC...you get ganked...you respawn...wash, rinse repeat. It's truly not even worth the effort.