Why splitting tickets again?

Red_Feather

I have no reason to go to imperial city so I'll just get 1 ticket a day if I bother logging in.

Folkb

Ugh IC.

Epona222

trackdemon5512 wrote: »

The point of these events has always been to get players to try and experience ALL DLC. This is how it has always been.

MidYear always had tickets in both IC and Cyro.

Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood required you to do a daily in both zones.

Elsweyr requires both Northern and Southern zones.

You can expect any Western Skyrim event to now include both The Reach and Solitude dailies.

But we just had Midyear Mayhem, which is twice a year. Another event that requires IC is too much. Completely bored with IC at this point.

RevJJ

If ZOS wants more players to go to IC they should remove Tel Var loss upon death. I know I’d spend a lot more time there if there wasn’t the risk of being ganked and losing half of what I’ve accumulated.

SeaGtGruff

Fennwitty wrote: »

Marto wrote: »

Simple answer: To encourage players to go to the Imperial City.

ZOS always likes to encourage players to try different things. It keeps all zones and activities populated, and it can make the experience more fresh and varied. It's the same reason why endeavors include things like heists, contracts, and PVP activities.

Sure, if IC worked well and was fun that would be no problem.

But during events and even when empty you often can't even change zones without trying several times. And collecting the quests requires multiple zone changes -- and then turn in another one.

The "already queued" message doesn't come up if you take a few moments to wait before trying to use a ladder:

Queue in to IC, wait 15* seconds, take a ladder up, grab a quest, wait 15 seconds, take the ladder down, wait 15 seconds, take the next ladder up, etc. [*15 seconds is a guesstimate; it's probably more like 10, but I wanted to be on the safe side.]

Or:

Take a ladder up, grab the quest, DO THE QUEST, return to base to turn it in, open your rewards, visit the bank to deposit your Tel Var, THEN take the next ladder, grab the next quest, DO the next quest, return to base to turn it in, etc. This is guaranteed to avoid the "already queued" message.

sharquez wrote: »

arena daily quest takes upwards of a minute or 2 pretty much no matter what and can actually be completed by rescuing any imperial in the entire IC so will get done regardless.

I didn't realize that rescuing Imperials in other districts counted toward the Arena quest-- but then, I think killing Legion Zero or killing Daedroths and Flame Atronachs anywhere counts toward their respective quests, so it makes sense. Anyway, thanks for pointing it out!

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Because everyone hates the IC district quests and no one would do them without being forced. Even if you like IC, those district quests are annoying and tedious.

Actually, I find the IC district quests to be a fairly easy way to make a bit of Tel Var, since you get a satchel of Tel Var stones for each one.

Danikat wrote: »

Wow, I just did 6 IC dailies in just under an hour. I knew it was easier when events aren't running but I hadn't appreciated how much easier. I think if I do them in future I'll definitely be doing it this way instead of during the event.

I find them to be pretty easy even with an event running, except on days when I seem to be the only player of my faction in a district and it's overrun by players of the other two factions. And even then, I can usually get each quest done pretty quickly now that I've worked out a "best route" for each, along with "best backup plan" for reaching specific target spots in a district when it's overrun.

AlnilamE

Pre-do the IC dailies on 2 characters and just hand in a quest a day and that will cover you for most of the event.

JamieAubrey

Go do IC now, don't hand them in, BOOM you have 6 dailies ready to be handed in, I still haven't turn them in since MYM

Monte_Cristo

Was disappointed it wasn't one ticket per zone, with any 2 zones counting. And I no longer have a mageblade to sneak around IC.

Integral1900

Because they want to make yet another futile attempt to get more than 0.0001 percent of the population interested in that particular bit of content. I mean yes, it can be great fun, provided you don’t mind being killed by the same three players over and over who are so far above you they might as well be in space. That place is fun in the same way that being kicked in the crotch is fun. Personally I plan to ignore it for this event because my need for enjoyable content instantaneously rules out a location that involves being frightened and miserable all the time. Call me Mr fussy 🧐

EF321

If I could just take all the IC dailies at base that would already make it so much more appealing. Can't be bothered to go through all the loading screens or especially doing quests one by one and going home after each.

Arunei

They really should have made it that Craglorn and Wrothgar each give a ticket instead of sharing one, or that you can get a ticket for IC's 'portion' of the event from either of IC's dungeons. The people who like IC or prefer it could still get their ticket from those dailies and the people who'd prefer to avoid it could at least get their tickets from going through a relatively easy dungeon. That's what I did during the IC event, I just spammed ICP over and over.

FlopsyPrince

Hey, the IC gankers needed more PvE players so they can have fun too!

FlopsyPrince

They still have not put quest markers on the ladders in the AD home area. It incorrectly routes you through another faction's home area! Just not enough time to do that in so many years I guess....

If changing zones there creates so much more load, why not let them all be picked up at a central board in the home area instead, at least after they have been done once? That would reduce load and speed things up for the players.

But it would be a good thing for players, so not likely to happen I guess.

Tommy_The_Gun

Marto wrote: »

Simple answer: To encourage players to go to the Imperial City.

ZOS always likes to encourage players to try different things. It keeps all zones and activities populated, and it can make the experience more fresh and varied. It's the same reason why endeavors include things like heists, contracts, and PVP activities.

It is obvious at this point. 3rd event this year that forces people to go to IC for event tickets. No other zone gets this much attention when it comes to events. It is wierd as I would expect to be able to have a choice and for example do IC dungeons instead (after all those are also the part of IC dlc). But somehow it is not an option.

IC is dead empty zone 24/7 and there is a good reason for it. Forcing people to go to IC will not make them to like this zone. Quite the opposite - more people will dislike it. After each event I see this zone getting more & more empty (overall). Right now it can even be empty during prime time, with larger population spikes pretty much only in weekend's evenings. And it is never full or locked pop.

In order to make IC more populated is to simply make it more enjoyable. That's it. I am saying this from both PvP & PvE perspective. I like Cyro PvP and PvE, but IC is just way too toxic. There aren't any big fights & armies there, just ball groups & gank groups, all closed in a very confined area...

3rd event this year with obligatory trip to IC... I am pretty sure I am not the only one who is fed-up with it... can we take a break and maybe have a different zone for event tickets ?

Mirrrr

I just did all 8 daily quest in IC. Took me 15 min and I can just hand them in whenever I wish. If you do them on 2 toons you are sorted for the whole event

Marcus_Aurelius

So people still don't know that you can do a quest in IC from the safe spot without having to go down or they just like to complain when there is something pvp-related?

SaintSubwayy

RevJJ wrote: »

If ZOS wants more players to go to IC they should remove Tel Var loss upon death. I know I’d spend a lot more time there if there wasn’t the risk of being ganked and losing half of what I’ve accumulated.

This would also help to fight the inflation of alchemy ingredient prices by a lot.

It would certainly get me into IC more often than just during event or for some Mythic leads

Lady_Galadhiel

Marcus_Aurelius wrote: »

So people still don't know that you can do a quest in IC from the safe spot without having to go down or they just like to complain when there is something pvp-related?

My post is about splitting up the tickets,what is my personal annoyance about the matter.
I wont bother with IC same as I didnt bother with it during Midyear Mayhem,my daily ESO time is too short to do things I dont enjoy.

L_Nici

As I always say, how dare they force PvE into PvP 2 times a year, they should rather force PvP players into PvE 30 times a year.

stefj68

sucks cause i wont go to imperial city or [snip] lag or battlegrounds

some of us hate PVP
and we are penalized for it

some mythics unavailables for us
missing tickets
golden vendor up there etc etc etc (oftenly takes 20min just to be able to port up there to go to the vendor and leave)

[edited for bashing]

Hurbster

L_Nici wrote: »

As I always say, how dare they force PvE into PvP 2 times a year, they should rather force PvP players into PvE 30 times a year.

It's such a transparent attempt to get people into these zones.

Marcus_Aurelius

Lady_Galadhiel wrote: »

My post is about splitting up the tickets,what is my personal annoyance about the matter.
I wont bother with IC same as I didnt bother with it during Midyear Mayhem,my daily ESO time is too short to do things I dont enjoy.

Because it's always been so when there are different zones involved, for example:

One Event Ticket for completing a Daily Quest in Northern Elsweyr
One Event Ticket for completing a Daily Quest in Southern Elsweyr

One Event Ticket from the first Vvardenfell daily quest of any kind that you turn in
One Event Ticket from the first Clockwork City daily quest of any kind that you turn in

Marcus_Aurelius

stefj68 wrote: »

sucks cause i wont go to imperial city or [snip] lag or battlegrounds

some of us hate PVP
and we are penalized for it

You can do one mission without having to do PVPat all because you can do it without going down from the safe spot upstairs.
So, how are you penalized?

Lady_Galadhiel

Marcus_Aurelius wrote: »

Lady_Galadhiel wrote: »

My post is about splitting up the tickets,what is my personal annoyance about the matter.
I wont bother with IC same as I didnt bother with it during Midyear Mayhem,my daily ESO time is too short to do things I dont enjoy.

Because it's always been so when there are different zones involved, for example:

One Event Ticket for completing a Daily Quest in Northern Elsweyr
One Event Ticket for completing a Daily Quest in Southern Elsweyr

One Event Ticket from the first Vvardenfell daily quest of any kind that you turn in
One Event Ticket from the first Clockwork City daily quest of any kind that you turn in

Yes and I did dislike it every single time.
I miss the good all days where we had to do one activity a day to earn event tickets no matter if it was pve or pvp.

cyclonus11

Absolutely everyone will skip Craglorn.

Remathilis

cyclonus11 wrote: »

Absolutely everyone will skip Craglorn.

Hmm, double drops chances for Briarheart or Way of Fire. Which should I do?

arun_rajputb16_ESO

Can't wait to get ganked a hundred times whilst trying to complete a daily quest for 2 event tickets.

Hate IC. The zone is cool, the idea is not.

Danikat

It does look like ZOS is determined to get people into IC, but I really don't think this is an effective way to do it. It sort-of works during the event in that there are more people there but I don't think many of them are doing anything beyond the dailies and the ones who are doing more seem to be PvP guilds who presumably are in there anyway.

If they want to make IC more populated long-term I think a better approach would be to find out why people (PvPer, PvEers and those who do both) don't currently like it and try to change that.

Although in my case that would be difficult. I like PvE and I like PvP sometimes but I also like a clear distinction between the two. When I'm doing PvP I want to be in a dedicated space where I know everyone else is there for PvP as well and which is designed for PvP. When I'm in PvE I don't want to be worrying about whether some idiot is going to be hiding in a corner hoping for easy targets because they can't kill anyone who is prepared to fight back. So IC just doesn't work for me. There's marginally more PvE content than Cyrodiil but not enough that it's worth spending much time there or dealing with the PvP aspects. Similarly it doesn't work well as a PvP area and there seems to be no incentive to go there for PvP over going to Cyrodiil, except the aforementioned gankers.

I think the only way to make it work for me is to make the current map a dedicated PvE map and then offer each district as a battlegrounds map (maybe with bigger teams?) with it's own objective.

Marcus_Aurelius wrote: »

stefj68 wrote: »

sucks cause i wont go to imperial city or [snip] lag or battlegrounds

some of us hate PVP
and we are penalized for it

You can do one mission without having to do PVPat all because you can do it without going down from the safe spot upstairs.
So, how are you penalized?

Crazy as it might sound people who don't like PvP aren't just lazy and wanting to get rewards with minimal effort. I'm not a fan of playing in IC but going afk on a platform for an unknown amount of time and hoping the quest eventually completes sounds even less appealing than dealing with all the gankers and other idiots. Especially during an event when I have a lot of other things I'd like to be doing in the time I can be online. I'd rather miss a ticket than waste time on that.

JoDiMageio

I don't really understand the beef with IC, personally.

I am a PvE player. I don't do PvP. I'm not geared for it. I don't enjoy it. I am easy prey, but a disappointing kill since I don't have much Tel Var on me.

Yet I've managed to do all the quests, including the main one in IC, with little to no grief. The storyline is actually one of the better ones in the game. It's not my fave content simply because I am constantly nervous about being shanked, but it's not the worst thing, either. And the dailies are easy to accomplish.

As for people saying they are "forced" to do content they don't like... you're not. You don't have to. Your choice just has consequences that you may not like, such as missing out on a ticket.

Just like I'm sure the PvPers are giddy at having to do the stupid, repetitive quests during New Life...

What I have always liked about ESO is that they try to make things accessible for all... Don't like PVP, you can still get a quest for PvE content. Don't like PvP, head out to the gankfest in IC. No one is completely left out, which in my view is much better than totally excluding one part of the player population during an event, which other events are guilty of, offering little to nothing for PvPers.

As to the OP, this is why I think they split the tickets... give everyone a chance to get some. And perhaps discover content they never tried or were afraid to try. It's the perfect opportunity for guilds to organise events, which in some cases serve as an introduction to PvP to new players in a "relatively" safe environment (I learned a lot about the importance of blocking when capturing a flag in IC from my guildmates... or rather their mass deaths )

stefj68

Marcus_Aurelius wrote: »

stefj68 wrote: »

sucks cause i wont go to imperial city or [snip] lag or battlegrounds

some of us hate PVP
and we are penalized for it

You can do one mission without having to do PVPat all because you can do it without going down from the safe spot upstairs.
So, how are you penalized?

give me more info on that, cause i never went there... other then the golden vendor what daily?