Endeavors – lower and lower

spartaxoxo

Succuby wrote: »

Orion_89 wrote: »

I almost don't see the 25 seals/day and even weekly amount is lower than 200...

I take Sugar Kake from it ... it was text - "Can be transfered to crown gems on it"

It CAN NOT !!!

I just lose 8000 endevors !!!

So smaller number or bigger number it gives, even do not care - just dissapointed !!!

You call it Sugar Kake...does this mean your client is not in English? What does the description say for you?

Succuby

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Succuby wrote: »

Orion_89 wrote: »

I almost don't see the 25 seals/day and even weekly amount is lower than 200...

I take Sugar Kake from it ... it was text - "Can be transfered to crown gems on it"

It CAN NOT !!!

I just lose 8000 endevors !!!

1) you're replying to a post from August

2) you're replying to a post that has nothing to do with your complaint (and is also outdated - the last two weeks were 250 and 200)

3) yes, of course you can't turn an Endeavor-seal Sweetroll into Gems. That would be utterly broken.


edit: just double-checked to description on that Sweetroll:
"You can convert this item into a large number of Crown Gems if you receive it from a Crown Crate."

So, yeah. Only if you get it as a random drop from a box.

If you can get 2 Sweetroll or Apex mount (that cost even more than 800 gems) for the same amount of Endewore-seals or the same item for 400 gems for each sweetroll ... it is really strange for me that you can not get gems, and do not even sounds OP or not.

But "if only from crate" - bad but ok.

I hope random drop from box can be reworked to gems.

Now i have Sweetroll for 8000 endevors, do not think it is a lot of ... <bad word> ... like me now 😂

Bobby_V_Rockit

Wing wrote: »

i mean its clear that this team and the fallout 76 team have communication back and forth. as both games have been implementing and altering things based on both their own and the other games feedback.

(on a side note i feel the endeavor seals might be a legal move to skirt the loot boxes by making the rewards an in game feature that has an "optional" paid service)

but that aside

they seem to have made it too clunky on ESO? in 76 you have daily and weekly quests that earn you progress on the "seasonal battlepass" like thing. the pass has various in game currencies, actual legit cosmetics and skins, etc. etc. and you can spend atoms to rank up if you want.

the daily quests also got people to log in.


ESO has an exhausting amount of pressure now to log in, the main ones being:
-login rewards, a full month
-daily endeavors
-crafting writs

(on a side note its enough that i find myself actually playing the game less overall because im sick of constantly being on the game to do dallies, a classic shift from wanting to waste my time in ESO, to ESO wasting my time.)


but back on point, thats multiple overlapping login and daily systems that dont synergize with each other. compared to fallouts streamlined:
-daily and weekly challenges reward progress on the seasonal pass.
-the seasonal pass rewards a bunch of nice stuff on its own including store currency.
-the store currency can be used on anything in the store and there are no gamble crates.

sorry ESO, but for its flaws, fallout 76 has you beat flat out.

Craft bag/Scrap Box, 1650 monthly atoms/crowns, plus/first store discounts, it goes on like that. Funnily enough they’re the only two games I really play lol

Kiralyn2000

Of course, in return, FO76 gets a heck of a lot less new content every year.

It's also not really an "MMO", the scale is a bit smaller.
(been playing 76, on PS4, since Nov '20)

Succuby wrote: »

If you can get 2 Sweetroll or Apex mount (that cost even more than 800 gems) for the same amount of Endewore-seals or the same item for 400 gems for each sweetroll ... it is really strange for me that you can not get gems, and do not even sounds OP or not.

Maybe it's just that I've played a lot of games with parallel systems like this (cash shop + free grind), but it seems completely obvious to me that you'd never be able to convert the 'grind' currency into the 'premium' one.

Bobby_V_Rockit

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Of course, in return, FO76 gets a heck of a lot less new content every year.

It's also not really an "MMO", the scale is a bit smaller.
(been playing 76, on PS4, since Nov '20)

Succuby wrote: »

If you can get 2 Sweetroll or Apex mount (that cost even more than 800 gems) for the same amount of Endewore-seals or the same item for 400 gems for each sweetroll ... it is really strange for me that you can not get gems, and do not even sounds OP or not.

Maybe it's just that I've played a lot of games with parallel systems like this (cash shop + free grind), but it seems completely obvious to me that you'd never be able to convert the 'grind' currency into the 'premium' one.

True, no DLC, no new zones, classes, skill lines, just janky armor and sticks. That’s why I only play FO76 during ESO maintenance lol

Bekkael

ApoAlaia wrote: »

According to:

https://benevolentbowd.ca/games/esotu/eso-endeavors/

We are at 13275 potential seals earned.

If accrual rate doesn't take a nosedive I should be able to acquire the radiant apex I have 'eyeballed' before the crates change.

It would have been nice to get the ram from the previous crates instead alas that was never meant to be.

We shall see.

I will hit 13K seals tomorrow, and I hope to get one of the Celestial Radiant Apex mounts before this crate season ends. The space/nebula theme is my absolute favorite, so the timing works out well for me, I guess. After playing this game for nearly 6 years, it's nice to have something shiny and new to look forward to just for fun.

f047ys3v3n

Thanks for the link @Wolfkeks certainly looks like things have about leveled out. Though, more like around 450 seals per week than the 410 I thought. Also looks like ZOS is making a concerted effort to make the weekly and the dailies roughly similar in seals per week.

Does anybody else remember the time we had access to all the previous crown crates at once? I remember this happening once but don't remember if it was during a Christmas event or during an anniversary one. I do remember it was pre radiant mounts for gems though and that you also could only buy the previous crates and not individual items from them for gems. I wonder if we will get a shot at all the previous crates post endeavors? That would be interesting, especially if it was yearly. I expect they would also sell a ton of crates if they were open to gems at that time as well. I was going to ask it in the stream today but then the kids distracted me and I forgot about the stream. Any thoughts @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?

starkerealm

f047ys3v3n wrote: »

Does anybody else remember the time we had access to all the previous crown crates at once?

No.

I remember a lot of crates rotating through, including during various events, but I can't think of a time when more than two crates have been in rotation at the same time. It's possible that happened last summer, while I was away, but no, I don't remember that.

PizzaCat82

I think the fact that the radiant apex mounts this season are "celestial" pallet swaps of older normal apex mounts should get its own thread but I do feel bad for anyone who wanted more from this season.

Chips_Ahoy

It was to be expected, the same happened with the monthly rewards, they used to give away 10 full crown crates at least every month, not that preview crate garbage.

It was a bad deal for them, they need money, Ferraris are not free.