Is there any chance that we get account wide achievements??

kargen27

iksde wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

Canadagreen wrote: »

Tavore1138 wrote: »

a lot of people like to track their characters differently.

A lot of fun to "track" [Grand Master Crafting Harvester] and [Master Fisher] achievements.

My opinion - obviously achievs must by account-wide. it's unlocked by PLAYERS, not CHARACTERS.

You can't unlock an achievement if you don't have a character. It is a team effort between you and your character.

Usually there are mostly two groups of people that want account wide achievements. First the players that want to be able to use the titles on all their characters if one character earns the achievement. I don't like the idea simply because I think each character should earn the title but it wouldn't affect me any because I tend to never notice titles anyway.

The 2nd type wants different characters to contribute to the same achievement. For example if one character catches a blue trophy fish and another character catches a different trophy fish they want both to count to the achievement. This idea I am really opposed to because it wouldn't be good for the long term health of the game.

I take the character thing a little farther than the game does. When one of my characters gets a home they can only put in furniture they have earned themselves. So my characters that don't have the Master Fisher accomplishment don't get the boat in their home. They can use crafted items though even if they can't craft themselves because those can be purchased by any player/character. I'm not asking that this be a part of the game it is just something I do.

I do think that characters need their own unique things and achievements/titles are a part of that. It is a big part of what makes our characters characters.

and I dont care for collectibles or titles etc for accountwide yet I care jsut for achievs, for mine, not character progress in game which Im losing when I dont play on my alt and I have no time to repeat everying on atleast 5 other alts (class diversity in gameplay to not get bored) and becasue of this I cant run new content, quests or something on alt I would be happy to play with its class because after it I wont have time to play it again not willings, it will take my months, years before I will finally repeat this for my main.

or if not accuont wide achievs then I would be happe for option to play different classes on my main and Im not tlaking about meta, depending on my mood I would even go for progressing godslayer with the worst class for meta for my dps role as I will be still good enough, skilled player to be able to run this and so will my guild, group, friends know it but for now Im unable to play happily with other character than my main aand so with my main when I get sick of playing this single class nonstop just to have all mine progress in single place where I have everything/most already

I wouldn't mind a tab that lets you see all the achievements that you have unlocked and a way to see what individual characters have finished. That way your account could complete all the achievements. Titles would still be character bound though and each individual achievement would need to be done on one character not shared across many. What I mean be this is if looking for trophies to finish those achievements they would all have to be found by one character.

Sirona_Starr

I play 18 characters. Yes, I do. I would like more characters actually, to explore different combinations of skills, race and gear.

Since CP is account-wide, dyes, mementos, costumes, mounts, pets (including those created by one character) are account-wide, there is NO real reason for NO other type of things account-wide achievements.

The fact there are NOT accountwide achievements actually hold me back from playing some characters freely. As an example, Mammoth tooth towards one achievement. For over two years, only my main was allowed to kill mammoths to get that tooth, no other toons could kill one, so my main would get the achievement. When she did, then the others could go kill them.

Lorebooks - OMG - I have a toon that has a lorebook that my main didn't pick up, and seemingly can't get. Drives me bonkers!!
Having those accountwide would not stop me from picking up eidetic lorebooks on other toons, but it certainly would sooth my main regarding this type of thing ^^.

I hear the arguments about titles, but since you can only wear one title, I don't get the big deal. If you are a player that got Emperor, then, I think, all your toons can wear the costume, and there is a dye involved.

Clearly, if someone at level 3 could wear an Emperor title, then you are looking a a skilled pvp player, regardless of the toon level - which is a false level, given that toon can already apply earned cp from other toons.

Obviously, my main, is also my achievement collector, in the examples above.

Yes to CONSISTENCY regarding ACCOUNT-WIDE ACHIEVEMENTS!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

Every time this type of thread topic is brought up, I will add to the "yes please" side of it.

If this is not going to happen, then OBVIOUSLY account wide CP should be stopped. The end.

iksde

Sirona_Starr wrote: »

If this is not going to happen, then OBVIOUSLY account wide CP should be stopped. The end.

dont forget also about collectibles earned by playing game like skins, personalities etc as these are tbh earned by completing challenges only fro single character, you wont get by completing each challenge on different characters so thats also character earned reward as title or also gained cp as you mentioned

and not to be sticky? to this but we coudl also go further as dyes are unlocked via acheivemen which have eared specific character, not every especially for something harder/rarer and to it add also outfit styles which got unloced be learning motifs on most probably single character rather than every on account

this is jsut hipocrisy to say no for account wide achievs/progress while using dyes, outfit styles, collectibles on character which for sure didnt earn most of them if any along with earned cp through long time playing and then used on new character

I would have no problem turning everything of these to be also per character if achievs or titles here are such problem I play single character because of it anyway so restricting even more things to be character specific wont bother me \_(ツ)_/
question left is how much it will bother people here being so much against option for these achievs

kargen27

"this is jsut hipocrisy to say no for account wide achievs/progress while using dyes, outfit styles, collectibles on character which for sure didnt earn most of them if any along with earned cp through long time playing and then used on new character"

There are those among us that didn't like those being shared account wide either. We have to accept that those are in the game but can still speak out against even more short cuts being added.

Hard to take away what has already been added. That causes all kinds of uproar.

Motifs are not the same as dyes as motifs can be purchased. Only things that are locked behind achievements should be character only. That is why I am okay with putting craftable furniture in homes of characters that can't craft them but not achievement furnishings they have not earned.

iksde

kargen27 wrote: »

"this is jsut hipocrisy to say no for account wide achievs/progress while using dyes, outfit styles, collectibles on character which for sure didnt earn most of them if any along with earned cp through long time playing and then used on new character"

There are those among us that didn't like those being shared account wide either. We have to accept that those are in the game but can still speak out against even more short cuts being added.

Hard to take away what has already been added. That causes all kinds of uproar.

Motifs are not the same as dyes as motifs can be purchased. Only things that are locked behind achievements should be character only. That is why I am okay with putting craftable furniture in homes of characters that can't craft them but not achievement furnishings they have not earned.

rare to hear that from this side to not be hypocrite (sorry I dont know better wording for this :P)

but as you play this way it doesnt mean everyone are, would be happy to play same way..so everytime in threads like this there is suggestion to make these changes optional, for player who would want it and it shouldn't bother players like you as what we have currently - already able to see 3lvl with godslayer mount, with skin for other veteran content and personality and costume so how someone else shared achievs would bother you if you wont see aynything additonal special on players with it besides just title which is same as other collectibles?

and still Im for everythign or nothing shared here...everything ofc would be optional but as for people crying something shared is bad while are using other shared things then Im for turning this all off, to be also character specific
so everything or nothing shared and this would show how much people really would be for character specific rewards like You

tomofhyrule

This is another one of those threads that pops up all the time, and you get the same arguments from both sides. Neither side will convince the others.

"I, the player, ran vRG so I should be able to show it off no matter if I'm on my crafting toon or not!"
"I, the character, fought my rear end off through the Daedra of vRG, but I can't sew a button on so I shouldn't see the crafting achievement since I can't do it!"
"Global achievements would make me play alts more because then any of them could earn the achievement so I could always use the best tool for the job!"
"Global achievements would make me play alts less because then there's nothing for them to work towards once one character's already done it!"

Some people see themselves as a player with a toolbox. These people are more likely to grab whichever alt is necessary to do something, so of course the achievements are spread out. Some people really get hardcore into the RP, so of course they don't want to see the DB achievements on their Paladin-type character. For some, more alts means more tools to play with. For others, more alts means more repetition.

The best option is to have a 'character' tab as is, and then a 'global' tab... and of course PC has an addon for that. But to remove all character achievements is removing something from the RP crowd. And it is just as appropriate a playstyle as the hardcore endgame PvE - there's even several threads about how players are saying that various quests are broken and unplayable because their characters are forced into dialogue or actions that are inappropriate.

The game is also built for global collectibles (can you imagine the uproar if you also had to level Bastian by toon?) and individual achievements. Don't forget that achievements are also a source of XP, so by asking for global achievements, you're also asking for Antiquities to be even harder to level on alts...unless you also want skill lines to be global. Also, if the game were built with global achievements, you'd be collecting 18x more dailies to fill them up since they're now across the board... again, unless you also want the daily quests to be one per account instead of one per character.

Athan1

No /op

Thechuckage

The best option would be an opt in. Instead we are stuck with this half-baked solution.

Personally I'm all for account wide achieves. Rather than targeted hunting for achievements, they get completed over the course of normal game play, esp when you use alts.

There is no objective right or wrong with achievements or other rewards, but half measures seem to be the modus operandi.

iksde

tomofhyrule wrote: »

The game is also built for global collectibles (can you imagine the uproar if you also had to level Bastian by toon?) and individual achievements. Don't forget that achievements are also a source of XP, so by asking for global achievements, you're also asking for Antiquities to be even harder to level on alts...unless you also want skill lines to be global. Also, if the game were built with global achievements, you'd be collecting 18x more dailies to fill them up since they're now across the board... again, unless you also want the daily quests to be one per account instead of one per character.

no problem for me with penalties if I had option for this

at the end with every thread like this someone else was comming with additional and mostly better option for this to not break current system for these hardcore RP players - like and special soulgem idk, maybe from crownstore? to bind characters we want together to have shared achievs/progress so players who dont want it - then just dont use it? so they would be happe and players who want shared achievs could be also happy their way

but unfortuntally how it was always been..players who would want these achievs shared are thinking everytime time about solution for both sides to be happy but 2nd side of these RP player never agree for this only because - but other player will have it and we dont want it to be a thing (even if we are unable to see it)

kargen27

iksde wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

"this is jsut hipocrisy to say no for account wide achievs/progress while using dyes, outfit styles, collectibles on character which for sure didnt earn most of them if any along with earned cp through long time playing and then used on new character"

There are those among us that didn't like those being shared account wide either. We have to accept that those are in the game but can still speak out against even more short cuts being added.

Hard to take away what has already been added. That causes all kinds of uproar.

Motifs are not the same as dyes as motifs can be purchased. Only things that are locked behind achievements should be character only. That is why I am okay with putting craftable furniture in homes of characters that can't craft them but not achievement furnishings they have not earned.

rare to hear that from this side to not be hypocrite (sorry I dont know better wording for this :P)

but as you play this way it doesnt mean everyone are, would be happy to play same way..so everytime in threads like this there is suggestion to make these changes optional, for player who would want it and it shouldn't bother players like you as what we have currently - already able to see 3lvl with godslayer mount, with skin for other veteran content and personality and costume so how someone else shared achievs would bother you if you wont see aynything additonal special on players with it besides just title which is same as other collectibles?

and still Im for everythign or nothing shared here...everything ofc would be optional but as for people crying something shared is bad while are using other shared things then Im for turning this all off, to be also character specific
so everything or nothing shared and this would show how much people really would be for character specific rewards like You

I think account wide achievements would be bad for the long term health of the game. MMOs need players repeating content to survive. Account wide achievements and titles would take away some incentive to repeat content.

I would like to have a tab that lets me see all the achievements account wide and which characters have those achievements. Sharing titles though I don't want to see.

Thechuckage

kargen27 wrote: »

iksde wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

"this is jsut hipocrisy to say no for account wide achievs/progress while using dyes, outfit styles, collectibles on character which for sure didnt earn most of them if any along with earned cp through long time playing and then used on new character"

There are those among us that didn't like those being shared account wide either. We have to accept that those are in the game but can still speak out against even more short cuts being added.

Hard to take away what has already been added. That causes all kinds of uproar.

Motifs are not the same as dyes as motifs can be purchased. Only things that are locked behind achievements should be character only. That is why I am okay with putting craftable furniture in homes of characters that can't craft them but not achievement furnishings they have not earned.

rare to hear that from this side to not be hypocrite (sorry I dont know better wording for this :P)

but as you play this way it doesnt mean everyone are, would be happy to play same way..so everytime in threads like this there is suggestion to make these changes optional, for player who would want it and it shouldn't bother players like you as what we have currently - already able to see 3lvl with godslayer mount, with skin for other veteran content and personality and costume so how someone else shared achievs would bother you if you wont see aynything additonal special on players with it besides just title which is same as other collectibles?

and still Im for everythign or nothing shared here...everything ofc would be optional but as for people crying something shared is bad while are using other shared things then Im for turning this all off, to be also character specific
so everything or nothing shared and this would show how much people really would be for character specific rewards like You

I think account wide achievements would be bad for the long term health of the game. MMOs need players repeating content to survive. Account wide achievements and titles would take away some incentive to repeat content.

I would like to have a tab that lets me see all the achievements account wide and which characters have those achievements. Sharing titles though I don't want to see.

I disagree, I think making achieves account wide would make hunting them down less of a chore and lead to people playing the aspects of the game they want and/or trying new things. The minute its "Ok to get <thing A> I need to hop onto my DK, loadscreens....more load screens, traveling over to whatever the other thing was....you know what, forget it" Logs off.

As opposed to "oh <thing A> knocks it out with current character. And happily continues to play.

iksde

kargen27 wrote: »

iksde wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

"this is jsut hipocrisy to say no for account wide achievs/progress while using dyes, outfit styles, collectibles on character which for sure didnt earn most of them if any along with earned cp through long time playing and then used on new character"

There are those among us that didn't like those being shared account wide either. We have to accept that those are in the game but can still speak out against even more short cuts being added.

Hard to take away what has already been added. That causes all kinds of uproar.

Motifs are not the same as dyes as motifs can be purchased. Only things that are locked behind achievements should be character only. That is why I am okay with putting craftable furniture in homes of characters that can't craft them but not achievement furnishings they have not earned.

rare to hear that from this side to not be hypocrite (sorry I dont know better wording for this :P)

but as you play this way it doesnt mean everyone are, would be happy to play same way..so everytime in threads like this there is suggestion to make these changes optional, for player who would want it and it shouldn't bother players like you as what we have currently - already able to see 3lvl with godslayer mount, with skin for other veteran content and personality and costume so how someone else shared achievs would bother you if you wont see aynything additonal special on players with it besides just title which is same as other collectibles?

and still Im for everythign or nothing shared here...everything ofc would be optional but as for people crying something shared is bad while are using other shared things then Im for turning this all off, to be also character specific
so everything or nothing shared and this would show how much people really would be for character specific rewards like You

I think account wide achievements would be bad for the long term health of the game. MMOs need players repeating content to survive. Account wide achievements and titles would take away some incentive to repeat content.

I would like to have a tab that lets me see all the achievements account wide and which characters have those achievements. Sharing titles though I don't want to see.

so and I will disagree here, for example I dont care to repeat achievs on my alts and I dont care about any achiev for my alt

but stometime when I play on alt isntead on my main I might get an stupid/easy/random acheivement and when I see it it somehov bothers my I didnt want to see that, I have earned it already on my main, I dont care about it on my alt wharever it is or I get this on my alt but still unable to get on my main by bad RNG or just lucky while playing with others an conentent, I stil didnt want to get it, to see it,
why? once again, I dont care about a single one achievement besides my main with current systen and it irritates me Im gaining luckily something to be locked on alt I dont care and so leaving me still to have luck to get it for my main where I have, I collect everything

for sure if I even had option to turn off al acheivements for alts - I would do it, this is how much I dont care with current system about alts progress and nobody's immersion would be hurted by me becasue Im unable to get any acheivements on that character


EDIT: I didnt write most imortant what I disagree with this xD, giving option to many of us for account share achiev wont change to much abiut our gamplay...definitelly it wont get worse as we anyway doesnt play to much on our main becasue we are stuck to them now giving us not much reason to play on alts, accout share achievs would even give us more reason to play becasue we will have same fun of playing alts as playin on our mains having all progress on account as how we see it as our progress, not character

and we could do every acheivemnt on every class but here lies problem - we are stuck to single class on our main and we have literally no intentions to waste our time just to "achieve" something which we achieved already
and here is comming another option/penalty? for havng accout shared achievs - for example: complere veteran malestrom arena on each class avaible in game to become master, champion, grandomaster? ! of this arena

kargen27

"so and I will disagree here, for example I dont care to repeat achievs on my alts and I dont care about any achiev for my alt"

Many players do though. A friend has eight master fishermen on PC and a couple on Playstation. He plans on getting more.

Xorxe

I would like to see some overhaul of achievements. Split them to two sections - Account and Char. Global achievements like kill tons of creatures, or launder many money or catch tons of fish can be accountwide. Other, like zone progress and char lvl can be character bound, because they sometimes serve as progress guides.
Then we can have endless discusions about single achievements and in which category they belong :-)
I, for example, will never do fishing achievement, because they are boring to me and its only for one alt anyway. But if they were account wide, maybe with some fishermen costume, well.... maybe :-)

Fischblut

I never truly felt how awesome account-wide achievements are, until I started playing GW2 more than a year ago No matter what character I play there, they all progress my common goal. I am not forced to play only one certain character - I can play whatever character I feel like playing at any moment

ESO has great outfit system and combat, but character-bound achievements are huge negative aspect of this game. If we ever get account-wide achievements, it will be nice player-friendly move.

TelvanniWizard

Fischblut wrote: »

I never truly felt how awesome account-wide achievements are, until I started playing GW2 more than a year ago No matter what character I play there, they all progress my common goal. I am not forced to play only one certain character - I can play whatever character I feel like playing at any moment

ESO has great outfit system and combat, but character-bound achievements are huge negative aspect of this game. If we ever get account-wide achievements, it will be nice player-friendly move.

Totally agree. I also apreciated this a lot in SWTOR, with its Legacy system.

ApoAlaia

There is always a possibility - in the sense that is should be technically achievable - however every new piece of content released makes a very clear distinction between what is account-wide and what is character-specific so I don't think is something the devs have planned for the short or mid term

If you look at the newest introduce feature: companions it still follows the same pattern.

Bear in mind that this in an educated guess based on what the game shows me, I have no insider information and no ties to the development team.

iksde

kargen27 wrote: »

"so and I will disagree here, for example I dont care to repeat achievs on my alts and I dont care about any achiev for my alt"

Many players do though. A friend has eight master fishermen on PC and a couple on Playstation. He plans on getting more.

many players do and many playerd dont do
why player who feels it to play other way cat also be understanded/get love? just everytime they are getting mixed with but from this 2nd side of playerbase...by devs are just ignored but from opposite players they are always booed like they was heretic or witches during middle ages doesnt matter of their arguments and solutions how this wont affect this RP playerbase

looks like RP playerbase are just unloading their toxicity against acheivement hunters beceause they have noone else for this when endgame, toxic players dont let them peacfully play their dungs, pvp that what I just noticed (and Im not pointing it at You kargen but on rest which is agressive in threads like this and not giving good enough arguments)

Sheezabeast

DreamyLu

As usual based on my experience from other MMOs, I would find relatively fair and understandable that crafting motives are account bound instead of soul bound.

Personal opinion of course

Casul

+1 for account wide achievements and titles. I'll pay for it if needed.

hundergrn

Except for Titles, almost everything unlocked by getting achievements is account wide. Cosmetics, Dye colors, Collectables, scrying etc.

What point is there to Global achievements? A shared gamer score? To know you are one and done with something as you jump from alt to alt, facilitating the easiest route to a goal, racing the flavor of the expansion?

Some classes can do certain content easier than others. vMA and vVH solo arenas, for example, are much much easier on a sorc than other classes. They have a tool kit that allows you to ignore mechanics, pets to keep you safe, and bubbles for mistakes. Great to learn the mechanics but not worth it to brag. PvP Templars could go (and some still do) x kill 0 death in BG with 2-3 button rotations.... off point....

Most of the content in ESO is tracked by Character achievements.... your skyshards, lore books, delves, dungeons, undaunted skill line leveling, quest progression, zone progression, bonuses to first time completions, etc.

You want a title on a toon, go complete that content on that toon. Want to brag about doing hard content on a class that is not easy mode? Do it on that toon. Furniture/Motif/Crafting.... sorry but dedicate a main and don't worry about it on alts too much.

Taggund

In a MMO, I'm normally one that plays a lot of alts for all the classes available. Lack of account wide achievements is the main reason keeping me from playing alts (other than being crafting writ alts). I have one secondary thief character, but he is extremely limited in play now. I keep going back to my main to keep building on zone completion, etc. It would have been nice to have run a EP character through those zones, DC through theirs, and have it all be at account level for achievements.

If I'd been playing ESO for years, and as each DLC came out worked on its completion, I may have a different opinion. However, being new to the game means there is a lot of content to do. Overall, I'll probably be moving on to a new game prior to being at a point I feel like working on an alt instead of the main.

AlnilamE

I'll start by saying 2 things:

1. I'm ok with an account-wide overview that shows you which achievements you have gotten across all characters, as long as each character still gets to achieve their own stuff.
2. I'd rather have a class change token for those who want to switch classes than account-wide achievements that blur what characters have achieved.

Now, before you say "but champion points and dyes, etc are account-wide". Yes. Yes, they are. Most games have a mix of things that are account-wide and things that are character-specific. That's not a bad thing. There are different kinds of players and each person draws their own lines. You see that in these threads where people are in favour of account-wide achievements but balk at account-wide titles (I'm the other way around and wouldn't care if titles were account-wide).

I think having a balance is good, even if the opinion of where the line should be varies from player to player.

Personally, I like earning achievements again on alts, particularly for things I find enjoyable. It's part of the alt experience and that's lost in games where those things are account-wide.

Another thing to note is that ESO was designed with character-specific achievements in mind, and with few exceptions, the achievements are not particularly grindy.

Compare that with GW2, where the achievements are so grindy as to be overwhelming. When I'm playing GW2 I have to be really focused if I look at achievements, otherwise I'll just get overwhelmed and quit, because there is literally no end in sight.

BDO is another example of account-wide achievements (titles in this case), where they are so grindy that running 23 characters through the content is not enough to naturally unlock some of the titles. You have to go back to grind on purpose to unlock it. 23 characters.

So, if they made achievements account wide in such a way that each character killing a mudcrab would contribute to a global achievement, expect those achievements to become a lot harder to get to the point where natural gameplay, even with multiple characters would not unlock them. And that would penalize the players who don't want to play alts.

So I think having an account-wide overview while still preserving the progress of individual characters would be the solution that would make most people happy. As for titles, I don't care either way. Master Angler is the only title.

Nastassiya

No. Just because someone cleared HM trials on their healer doesn't mean they know how to do it on their tank. I'd rather that person show what they did on the character they play with. At least with paying for clears, they need to pay a small fortune... that can't be stopped.

iksde

Nastassiya wrote: »

No. Just because someone cleared HM trials on their healer doesn't mean they know how to do it on their tank. I'd rather that person show what they did on the character they play with. At least with paying for clears, they need to pay a small fortune... that can't be stopped.

and again least good argument xD

ok, I have cleared KA HM on my nb DD, done every hm content here except cr+3
lately I maked also sets for tanking for this character without a single respec from dd and doing fine in most content

now Im gonna go with this selfish tank barely to stay alive on something really hard like stone garden and for last boss HM I guess I wont even be albe to tank with this character but heyyyyy I have got already achioevement for this on this character when I was on dd so I can go as tnak ehre also even if Im unable to tank it with this cahracter, this build

same I will go progressing for vKA trifecta run as tank on this character which for sure wont be able to stay alive here for most bosses, bigger trash mobs but I have already achievement for completing this trial on hm on this character!

iksde

hundergrn wrote: »

Except for Titles, almost everything unlocked by getting achievements is account wide. Cosmetics, Dye colors, Collectables, scrying etc.

What point is there to Global achievements? A shared gamer score? To know you are one and done with something as you jump from alt to alt, facilitating the easiest route to a goal, racing the flavor of the expansion?

Some classes can do certain content easier than others. vMA and vVH solo arenas, for example, are much much easier on a sorc than other classes. They have a tool kit that allows you to ignore mechanics, pets to keep you safe, and bubbles for mistakes. Great to learn the mechanics but not worth it to brag. PvP Templars could go (and some still do) x kill 0 death in BG with 2-3 button rotations.... off point....

Most of the content in ESO is tracked by Character achievements.... your skyshards, lore books, delves, dungeons, undaunted skill line leveling, quest progression, zone progression, bonuses to first time completions, etc.

You want a title on a toon, go complete that content on that toon. Want to brag about doing hard content on a class that is not easy mode? Do it on that toon. Furniture/Motif/Crafting.... sorry but dedicate a main and don't worry about it on alts too much.

I will buy it to have also skins, collectibles from achievs character based rather than account wide, titles are nothing so different than these

your fresh created 3lvl character didnt even step nor is able to step foot on veteran sunspire or even cyrodil to be able to wear emperors regalia and ride godslayer mount along with wearing skin for gryphon hearht which is possible to use currently

oh and I forgot about "count" title for ebtaining 3 basic game manor houses which for sure your 3 lvl character created few mins ago didnt obtoined gold to buy all of them to get this title

SerafinaWaterstar

How can they just suddenly do this? How would this work retrospectively? Would be awful & probably mean re-writing coding so maybe not such a good idea?

And for the record, am against it. Think things like skins should be character linked anyway - only the character you got them on can use them. Whilst I can do hard stuff on my nb or magsorc, I have no idea of how to do it on my necro or dk.

I mean, why not be honest & admit you just want fully equipped, all motifs & crafting known, all achievements done max level toons available, so then you don’t even have to really actually play the game!! 😘😉

joerginger

Fischblut wrote: »

I never truly felt how awesome account-wide achievements are, until I started playing GW2 more than a year ago No matter what character I play there, they all progress my common goal. I am not forced to play only one certain character - I can play whatever character I feel like playing at any moment

ESO has great outfit system and combat, but character-bound achievements are huge negative aspect of this game. If we ever get account-wide achievements, it will be nice player-friendly move.

I couldn't agree with you more. I also started playing GW2 last year and that is something I absolutely love about the game. Playing other characters isn't worthless puinishment as it is in ESO, it feels so rewarding.

This is the number one improvement I'm hoping to see in ESO in the future.

Canadagreen

zelaminator wrote: »

Canadagreen wrote: »

Tavore1138 wrote: »

a lot of people like to track their characters differently.

A lot of fun to "track" [Grand Master Crafting Harvester] and [Master Fisher] achievements.

My opinion - obviously achievs must by account-wide. it's unlocked by PLAYERS, not CHARACTERS.

Depends on how you view it.. I see my characters as individuals, so I don't think it should be account wide..

Your characters are just characters. You are player who control it. I am not trying to somehow belittle your reverent attitude towards the characters.
Game achievments on other platforms like Steam, Xbox, PSN are binded to platform itself. In most cases. Yes, many games have own achievment system (like ESO and other MMO), but I don't agree that's right decision. Players play the game and track progression. Kill 1000 enemies, done, complete super hard raid boss after 2 months, okay, harvest everything during year, unlock all style. People do that and spend a lot of time. It's about real players, not about char's "journey".

If ESO developers mean achievment system as a progression tracker, it's awful idea. It's kinda time-spent tracker.
Played 3 years, got progess. Wanna play new char? Enjoy your fresh 100/50000 achiev points, we don't care about your previous progress, now you like newbie. Wanna title again? Go do the job again.

There's sad story for me personally. I play tank and developers literally force me to respec to magicka/stamina/DPS/healer/race/name change/anything else with one reason - we track all your progress in the same place.
Wanna get healing achievment? Create new char or respec. Create new char? Okay, you lost all previous progress.
("Wait pls, I need to relogin to link ach")
V E R Y N I C E.
Im done.