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Where’s my damage?

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So I’ve been around the block a few times and seen stuff, but now that I’m back I tried a few things and now I’m focused on numbers. For one, crits been nerfed since I’ve been back. Meaning in all content I hit for less on average. My whole melee set-up has seen nerfs up to 63% on some abilities, meaning I’d need to get an additional 170% damage to hit as hard as I used to. But that’s not what this posts about.
I currently main stam sorc for Pvp, a little old fashioned I wear next to full Impen. I get hit consistently with around 7k dizzy swings. Sub par to the wrecking blows that once rocked my mag sorc for 16k. I hit a guy who’s afk in cyrodiil while he’s unbuffed, not blocking for a whooping 2.8k. I was wearing spriggans. Now what's weird about Pvp is the close to 50% damage reduction that’s changed a bit, but has always been in the game. I used to estimate my damage by simply halving the tool tip. If it says 10k I hit for 5k unless I crit. This is actually about what my damage numbers are. My crystal weapon procs on light attacks says 10-11k, I see damage numbers up to 5k and change.

I wear purple and gold gear. Typically with golded out weapons and now more than ever, I’m realizing some of us are not playing the same game when it comes to damage output. I nearly one shot a level 300, also did a cp 800 pretty dirty. But sometimes in a 4-5 ability combo/spam I’ll do only 20-30% of some players health. I read somewhere that crits are only grating like 50% bonus damage instead of 100% meaning it should be nearly impossible for me to hit my tool tip in pvp now. IE: 10k does 5k or 7.5k, then you factor in a player's damage mitigation. To point out a monster I got hit with a 20k incap consistently by a guy across multiple duels, who also had a consistent 7-8k surprise attack. 30k health divided by 8k means I’m dead in less than four hits. I have a nightblade too, My tool tip says 12.5k on my soul tether. That’s the bomber ultimate. I wear VD and war-maiden on it. Meanwhile on my stam sorc I get hit with 12k+ solo soul theaters, wearing impen. Even if I were to take off VD and wear New Moon to maximize damage, my tool tip would not say 25k so that I’d hit for 12.5k to be by the same rules that my stam sorc plays by. Yet I ulted a guy who looked to be wearing heavy armor for about half his health. I was in a group so I can’t say whether it was all me. I also noticed just wearing light armor my night blade has 12k pen compared to my stam sorcs 11k in spriggans. Can anyone tell me where people are getting crazy indifferences in damage or mitigation. Is it pen? Is their a default flanking bonus for all those who try to attack from the side or behind?
Edited by Pinja on June 5, 2021 11:12AM
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  • Pinja
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    So after playing with damage numbers a bit I realized that crits still do 100% damage in pvp because it negates the 50% drop with the addition addition of a 50% bonus. Thing is my crit's still low and out of commission.

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  • SirAndy
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    I'll take paragraphs for $100 please ...
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  • DonHardstyle
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    So you have been gone for how long ? Tryna change youre gear. Don't complain when something that used to work doesnt work annymore. This wasn't easy to ready btw !
  • Goregrinder
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    This wall of text is where your Damage went, it just KO'd me.
  • merpins
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    The game evolves over time. You haven't stated how long you've been away from the game, but it feels like upwards of 6 months.
    Builds come and go and you need to adjust your playstyle slightly with each update. Some updates gut entire playstyles. If you've been gone lone enough, it's likely your old loadout won't work well anymore as an optimal DPS. If your DPS was optimal a year ago and you were dealing upwards of 100k damage back then, it's likely that build will barely parse 30k damage now after all the changes. With luck, you might parse 60k but that's only if your build didn't get hit too hard and you have the CP to back it up.
    Pvp is a different beast entirely, and I'm no expert on that front so I won't get into it, but it changes faster and more often than PVE, so parses aren't really useful for you if you're doing that.

    TLDR: Needless to say, regardless of which one you're doing whether it be PVE or PVP, if you step away from the game for a period of time, your builds might need full reworks when you return. It's just the nature of the game.
  • Pinja
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    I was gone for about a year and change, but I haven't played pvp intensely since a little after summer set drop. The fights that I refer to have been within the last month though.
    The game evolves over time. You haven't stated how long you've been away from the game, but it feels like upwards of 6 months.
    Builds come and go and you need to adjust your playstyle slightly with each update. Some updates gut entire playstyles. If you've been gone lone enough, it's likely your old loadout won't work well anymore as an optimal DPS. If your DPS was optimal a year ago and you were dealing upwards of 100k damage back then, it's likely that build will barely parse 30k damage now after all the changes. With luck, you might parse 60k but that's only if your build didn't get hit too hard and you have the CP to back it up.
    Pvp is a different beast entirely, and I'm no expert on that front so I won't get into it, but it changes faster and more often than PVE, so parses aren't really useful for you if you're doing that.

    TLDR: Needless to say, regardless of which one you're doing whether it be PVE or PVP, if you step away from the game for a period of time, your builds might need full reworks when you return. It's just the nature of the game.
    I was mainly worried about pvp, but if damage has been nerfed that badly though is it still possible to get Hard Mode trial achievements like Godslayer?
    Edited by Pinja on June 5, 2021 11:28AM
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  • DonHardstyle
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    In an year slot has changed, you missed a lot. Look up an build and you will be fine again

    Yes we can still do god slayer. We still whack 90k+ on the dummies.
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