Its time to make this game more challenging?!!!

Maxx7410

Look up!

tc91101

Where is the make it easier option? The poll is inherently bias and assumes the game isn't already to "challenging" which really probably equates to "time consuming" and not necessarily mentally or physically difficult.

notyuu

Ya mean like they tried with craglorn and scrapped the idea becasue it was a bloody mess?

the problem isn't as simple as "make the game more challanging so i r not bored" and so on...it's more a lack of the game teaching players the finer points of combat outside of the baisics, fix that to bring the player skill floor up from 0.004 then you can see about making the game harder.

tl;dr increase player skill first, increase game challange second.

Starlock

No its fine this way (NO it is not!!!)

Oh wait... I might have voted wrong. Is this a fashion competition? Because if it is, they totally need to make the fashion game easier. So many walking fashion abominations out there. There are so, so many who need to L2P and git gud at fashion we need to make fashion game way, way easier.

Iarao

Maxx7410 wrote: »

Look up!

very simple: strip down. instantly more challenging.

SirAndy

Can't vote, biased poll is biased ...

etchedpixels

No its fine this way (NO it is not!!!)

notyuu wrote: »

Ya mean like they tried with craglorn and scrapped the idea becasue it was a bloody mess?

the problem isn't as simple as "make the game more challanging so i r not bored" and so on...it's more a lack of the game teaching players the finer points of combat outside of the baisics, fix that to bring the player skill floor up from 0.004 then you can see about making the game harder.

tl;dr increase player skill first, increase game challange second.

You assume a lot of the players care about the skill. If you are coming to ESO, doing the stories and treating it like a Skyrim/Oblivion style game as a lot of people do then it's about right. It meets the necessary criteria - there are struggles, there are things to learn, sklills to master and gear to collect but the hero eventually swaggers off into the sunset victorious even if they are not a hardcore gamer and lack high end gaming skills.

tsaescishoeshiner

OP, which content specifically is it that you want to be more challenging? Overland, Godslayer, arenas, PvP?

Maxx7410

I Vote Maxx7410 For President (Only logical option)

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

OP, which content specifically is it that you want to be more challenging? Overland, Godslayer, arenas, PvP?

Overland

Edaphon

No its fine this way (NO it is not!!!)

Maxx7410 wrote: »

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

OP, which content specifically is it that you want to be more challenging? Overland, Godslayer, arenas, PvP?

Overland

We already had more challenging overland content with Cadwell's silver/gold back at launch.

Didn't make it more interesting, just more tedious and nobody liked it.

Alurria

No its fine this way (NO it is not!!!)

Overland content is fine

nukk3r

No its fine this way (NO it is not!!!)

Go solo a Harrowstorm, idk.

Sylvermynx

*sigh*

Wolfpaw

No its fine this way (NO it is not!!!)

The problem with making this game more challenging is performance.

spartaxoxo

No its fine this way (NO it is not!!!)

Nope. The game has tons of challenges for people who want it and content that's for casuals and new players too. Just as not every person should expect to be able to do vet dlc dungeons, you shouldn't expect to get a challenge from all content.

A variety of content is needed and present.

marshill88

Yes at least 10 times more (Uber)

oh please make this game more challenging. the overworld is too easy, there is almost no risk. every. single. zone. I totally get the idea that some zones should be safe for new and casual players, but at least have zones that are wrought with untold danger. I love the beauty of nature. I don't like having to go into dank dark places to find danger. I wish there was much more danger in some of the overworld zones.

PaddyVu

No its fine this way (NO it is not!!!)

NO ! Content already hard now, u want challenge? Go solo veteran moongrave fane. I give u 10 days to finish it. If u cant solo, stop posting this kind of post or baiting thread.

marshill88

Yes at least 10 times more (Uber)

PaddyVu wrote: »

NO ! Content already hard now, u want challenge? Go solo veteran moongrave fane. I give u 10 days to finish it. If u cant solo, stop posting this kind of post or baiting thread.

Excuse me, but I know there are very hard parts to this game, that isn't what I said at all. The vast majority of this game is so easy, a level 1 wearing his slaver jerkin could do it. At level three, I can be farming nircrux in Craglorn with minimal risk and no fear whatsoever. That, my friend, just shouldn't be. It just shouldn't be. I wish the game was harder, but it is what it is, I'm having fun with it.

It's just my personal complaint, the game is too easy. I know there are places that are crazy hard, but that's just it... I don't like having to "search" for danger. I only have danger in ESO when I go looking for it. I wish that wasn't always the case. 95% of this game world is so easy, it is like walking in the park. I wish it was more like 50%.

Is 50% too much to ask? Imagine if 50%...heck even if 25% of the total land area of this game was legitimately dangerous.

PaddyVu

No its fine this way (NO it is not!!!)

marshill88 wrote: »

PaddyVu wrote: »

NO ! Content already hard now, u want challenge? Go solo veteran moongrave fane. I give u 10 days to finish it. If u cant solo, stop posting this kind of post or baiting thread.

It's just my personal complaint, the game is too easy. You see, that is just it, I don't like having to "search" for danger. I only have danger in ESO when I go looking for it. I wish that wasn't always the case. 95% of this game world is so easy, it is like walking in the park. I wish it was more like 50%.

Is 50% too much to ask? Imagine if 50%...heck even if 25% of the total land area of this game was legitimately dangerous.

The point is everyone want to make game more challenging but the fact they dont take dmg at all as a dps, only tank, follow mechanic and they are all good. Just solo everything and u will see how hard this game is. VERY VERY HARD ! I'm pro at Dark souls series and can even take off clothes and fight barehand boss but this game is too hard for me. Cant fight without gear. Will die if not follow mechanic.

Starlock

No its fine this way (NO it is not!!!)

Edaphon wrote: »

Maxx7410 wrote: »

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

OP, which content specifically is it that you want to be more challenging? Overland, Godslayer, arenas, PvP?

Overland

We already had more challenging overland content with Cadwell's silver/gold back at launch.

Didn't make it more interesting, just more tedious and nobody liked it.

I liked it.

But... I liked it because the zones were empty and it was more like a single-player RPG that way. So... that's probably not applicable. Still, I do miss the overall progression pre-1Tam had just in general. Now it is just... I'm still trying to figure out why we have character/gear levels now. They're vestigial organs of the old system. Hell, if they got rid of the unnecessary gear/level system it'd probably be easier to add in that difficulty slider some folks seem to want. Basically, the current leveling system would become the framework for the difficulty slider. Want to feel like an old level 5 character in a pre-1Tam Cadwell's silver zone? There you go!

marshill88

Yes at least 10 times more (Uber)

PaddyVu wrote: »

marshill88 wrote: »

PaddyVu wrote: »

NO ! Content already hard now, u want challenge? Go solo veteran moongrave fane. I give u 10 days to finish it. If u cant solo, stop posting this kind of post or baiting thread.

It's just my personal complaint, the game is too easy. You see, that is just it, I don't like having to "search" for danger. I only have danger in ESO when I go looking for it. I wish that wasn't always the case. 95% of this game world is so easy, it is like walking in the park. I wish it was more like 50%.

Is 50% too much to ask? Imagine if 50%...heck even if 25% of the total land area of this game was legitimately dangerous.

The point is everyone want to make game more challenging but the fact they dont take dmg at all as a dps, only tank, follow mechanic and they are all good. Just solo everything and u will see how hard this game is. VERY VERY HARD ! I'm pro at Dark souls series and can even take off clothes and fight barehand boss but this game is too hard for me. Cant fight without gear. Will die if not follow mechanic.

I don't like that I am only challenged in ESO when I search for it. I wish I could have some fear when I wander around in the distant places of the overworld, but I don't. So much of what I encounter in the overworld is nothing more than an annoyance, completely unthreatening. Often, it is so easy, it is boring. I wish 50% of this game was hard. But instead, only about 5% is hard, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was probably even less than 5%.

spartaxoxo

No its fine this way (NO it is not!!!)

marshill88 wrote: »

PaddyVu wrote: »

NO ! Content already hard now, u want challenge? Go solo veteran moongrave fane. I give u 10 days to finish it. If u cant solo, stop posting this kind of post or baiting thread.

Excuse me, but I know there are very hard parts to this game, that isn't what I said at all. The vast majority of this game is so easy, a level 1 wearing his slaver jerkin could do it. At level three, I can be farming nircrux in Craglorn with minimal risk and no fear whatsoever. That, my friend, just shouldn't be. It just shouldn't be. I wish the game was harder, but it is what it is, I'm having fun with it.

It's just my personal complaint, the game is too easy. I know there are places that are crazy hard, but that's just it... I don't like having to "search" for danger. I only have danger in ESO when I go looking for it. I wish that wasn't always the case. 95% of this game world is so easy, it is like walking in the park. I wish it was more like 50%.

Is 50% too much to ask? Imagine if 50%...heck even if 25% of the total land area of this game was legitimately dangerous.

90% of vet content is really hard actually and there are things you can do to make it even harder. PaddyVu, the guy you're talking to, has done some crazy hard stuff in this game that honestly makes other hard games look easy. Most of the people who say the game is too easy haven't experienced non-base game vet difficulty stuff yet or aren't doing it enough tbh. If you're doing a lot of vet content you may go out of your way to experience the easier stuff and just chill for once

Overland is a truly miniscule amount of your time once you become a true vet.

dem0n1k

There is some slightly more difficult content for you in Cyrodiil ! Come & see !

zvavi

dem0n1k wrote: »

There is some slightly more difficult content for you in Cyrodiil ! Come & see !

Slightly more difficult enemy? The lag?

Vlad9425

It is more challenging now with the new CP system.

Michae

No its fine this way (NO it is not!!!)

Another one of those threads? ESO is not Dark Souls, harder combat in ESO is not fun, it's just tedious. In short bursts and dungeon specific mechanics it can be ok, in overland you can't implement mechanics, especially not retroactively, there's really no money in it. And if you want a harder game, really, go somewhere else. ESO is what it is and it's fine. I come to this game to unwind after a hard day at work, not to grind my teeth up against some wall. You won't find me going to Dark Souls or Super Meat Boy forums to write "MaKe ThIs GaMe EaSiEr So I cAn EnJoY iT!!11".

rumple9

No its fine this way (NO it is not!!!)

Op just take your armour off or use a level 1 weapon if you want harder content

Abelon

Yes 2 times more (Yet in Story mode )

What is the point in buying new chapters if the biggest part of their content (overland) is absolutely braindead. Now we also get companions, so every overland mob and boss will just be falling over the moment we approach it, It's ridiculous really, can't wait until Dagon dies after Bastion pokes him once, it's all just so exciting.

Also can't wait until comments like, "strip yourself naked, delete CPs, unequip weapons THEN you can have a challenge, haha gotcha"

Maxx7410

I Vote Maxx7410 For President (Only logical option)

rumple9 wrote: »

Op just take your armour off or use a level 1 weapon if you want harder content

I did it with a new toon level 1 fire staff and no armor at all yet very easy. New pleyers are too overpowered

AcadianPaladin

No its fine this way (NO it is not!!!)

Overland - I'd much rather knock mudcrabs or wolves out of the way on my CP1460 when I'm traveling or harvesting than minotaur shamens or harvesters. If I want 'challenging' I know where to find it.

Parasaurolophus

yes 5 times more (Weak)

Yes! Overland need it.