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Night and morning cap in Cyrodiil
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Skyperess✭✭Well, that's why I started this post in the first place, I would like to see different opinions regarding Cyro's current situation, if you all agree this is the best way to have it, then I'm wrong and can stop wasting time and money on this game.0 -
Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I’m not a fan of PVE door with nightcapping, but I understand time zones etc.
The end of the campaign rewards aren’t much anyway.
I just think it’s funny when an alliance (all three do this) night caps and then defends like they earned something special and it’s the Super Bowl.
All that free scoring during off hours is pretty annoying.0 -
starlizard70ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Well, that's why I started this post in the first place, I would like to see different opinions regarding Cyro's current situation, if you all agree this is the best way to have it, then I'm wrong and can stop wasting time and money on this game.
This is possibly your best choice for you then. No one is going to change PVP times to suit one player's wants.
As for the best way to run Cyrodiil, at this point this is the only way to run Cryodiil."We have found a cave, but I don't think there are warm fires and friendly faces inside."5 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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Yes how can it be bullying?Nope, it's deliberate and organized, so lets be mature, it's not really ad or ep, they are justdoing what eso allows, but basicaly this pv door thingie is killing pvp, causing dc to log off and leave campaign, it's harrasment and bullying enabled by zos with their no rules game
please explain how this is bullying? that is maybe the most laughable thing I have heard on here in a long time
Now that happens if you have one strong group in Cyrodil is that one faction take the entire map, at this point they can only PvE who its better places for than Cyrodil so they leave. An solo player will most likely leave this map too but an group can easy flip it again. The AP you get from this is fixed as in AP for taking keeps and resources.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
Skyperess✭✭starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »Well, that's why I started this post in the first place, I would like to see different opinions regarding Cyro's current situation, if you all agree this is the best way to have it, then I'm wrong and can stop wasting time and money on this game.
This is possibly your best choice for you then. No one is going to change PVP times to suit one player's wants.
As for the best way to run Cyrodiil, at this point this is the only way to run Cryodiil.
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Skyperess✭✭I absolutely don't believe that, there are solutions to make pvp decide the outcome, not pv door, regardles of the time people play2
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Kartalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Well, what would be fair?
Do you want it to be fair to you or fair for everyone?
In Ravenwatch PC/NA, EP is the jobless, stay at home faction so they cap the map during the morning or afternoon usually. AD is the working professional faction so we mainly have population during US prime time, and DC is the West coast US and Aussie faction so they start later and tend to play later than the rest of us and cap the map at night. The only time the populations really synch up is US primetime. (some details slightly exaggerated)
This is not really detrimental for those that play in prime time when each faction has at least 3 bars of population (although lately DC has been fielding just 2 bars more frequently, but again they pick up later in our evening). Even when populations are 1 bar across you can still find people to fight. Certainly those that play at more unusual times (to us) might hope that there were more opponents to fight, and hope to goad them out by attacking keeps. Do they just not get to earn AP if everyone else is working/asleep? That doesn't really seem fair.
For me, and the guilds I play with as well, we actually like this setup because as AD primetime players it means we always have territory to retake, a dethrone to attempt, scrolls to try to recover, and fun battles to participate in, even when we're fighting uphill and only have a few keeps to start with upon logging in.
I agree with @Joy_Division 's suggestion. Or perhaps make the low pop bonus apply more easily to encourage more people to play on the disadvantaged faction. There are solutions out there that have potential, we just have to make sure it's fair for everyone.-
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Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭And you're probably an ep or ad
And you are clearly DC.
So everything is perfectly fine to you when its DC rolling the map with all 6 emp keeps and EP and AD are both pushed back to their gates and DC has a 10K lead in points over both EP and AD? When its DC showing up to take a keep with 60 people vs 20?
You only come to complain when DC is the one getting their nose pushed in and losing for a change.
So its only fair to you when DC is winning?
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Skyperess✭✭And you're probably an ep or ad
And you are clearly DC.
So everything is perfectly fine to you when its DC rolling the map with all 6 emp keeps and EP and AD are both pushed back to their gates and DC has a 10K lead in points over both EP and AD? When its DC showing up to take a keep with 60 people vs 20?
You only come to complain when DC is the one getting their nose pushed in and losing for a change.
So its only fair to you when DC is winning?
You are forgeting that happens when all are pop locked, I'm talking about people intentionaly zerging the empty map, that's not even remotely the same. And you're forgeting ad always wins because of these actions, it's not pvp win, it's a pv door win.0 -
Rukia541✭✭✭✭✭I found your problem, you're playing in the clown fiesta known as cyrodiil. Stop that!1
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Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭And you're probably an ep or ad
And you are clearly DC.
So everything is perfectly fine to you when its DC rolling the map with all 6 emp keeps and EP and AD are both pushed back to their gates and DC has a 10K lead in points over both EP and AD? When its DC showing up to take a keep with 60 people vs 20?
You only come to complain when DC is the one getting their nose pushed in and losing for a change.
So its only fair to you when DC is winning?
You are forgeting that happens when all are pop locked, I'm talking about people intentionaly zerging the empty map, that's not even remotely the same. And you're forgeting ad always wins because of these actions, it's not pvp win, it's a pv door win.
DC has done plenty of its own share of PvDoor. Ive logged in plenty of times and seen the whole map blue.
DC won the last 4, EP won before that using the same tactics. Then the EP power guilds moved to DC and DC started winning.
If youre talking Grey Host, AD hasnt won there in at least 6 months
Edited by Katahdin on March 18, 2021 3:10PMBeta tester November 20132 -
Skyperess✭✭And you're probably an ep or ad
And you are clearly DC.
So everything is perfectly fine to you when its DC rolling the map with all 6 emp keeps and EP and AD are both pushed back to their gates and DC has a 10K lead in points over both EP and AD? When its DC showing up to take a keep with 60 people vs 20?
You only come to complain when DC is the one getting their nose pushed in and losing for a change.
So its only fair to you when DC is winning?
You are forgeting that happens when all are pop locked, I'm talking about people intentionaly zerging the empty map, that's not even remotely the same. And you're forgeting ad always wins because of these actions, it's not pvp win, it's a pv door win.
DC has done plenty of its own share of PvDoor. Ive logged in plenty of times and seen the whole map blue.
oh, really, like when?0 -
AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭And you're probably an ep or ad
DC night caps the map in my campaign most nights. Right now, they have emp and we have but 3 keeps, while AD has 2.
Just because it's not your faction holding the map overnight in your campaign, doesn't mean they don't do it in others.
Nothing keeps your faction from recruiting players that play at off hours to fend off the attacks from the other alliances if they want to stop night-capping.
Or do you want to set up queues in Cyrodiil that will only let in an equal number of players in all alliances at any time?The Moot Councillor3 -
Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭And you're probably an ep or ad
And you are clearly DC.
So everything is perfectly fine to you when its DC rolling the map with all 6 emp keeps and EP and AD are both pushed back to their gates and DC has a 10K lead in points over both EP and AD? When its DC showing up to take a keep with 60 people vs 20?
You only come to complain when DC is the one getting their nose pushed in and losing for a change.
So its only fair to you when DC is winning?
You are forgeting that happens when all are pop locked, I'm talking about people intentionaly zerging the empty map, that's not even remotely the same. And you're forgeting ad always wins because of these actions, it's not pvp win, it's a pv door win.
DC has done plenty of its own share of PvDoor. Ive logged in plenty of times and seen the whole map blue.
oh, really, like when?
Like the last campaign.
Nightcapping (by someone and all factions do it) has happened in every campaign since the beginning of the game.
Bottom line is ZOS will never split campaigns out by time zone so you are going to either have to accept it as it is or find something else.Edited by Katahdin on March 18, 2021 3:20PMBeta tester November 20131 -
Skyperess✭✭And you're probably an ep or ad
And you are clearly DC.
So everything is perfectly fine to you when its DC rolling the map with all 6 emp keeps and EP and AD are both pushed back to their gates and DC has a 10K lead in points over both EP and AD? When its DC showing up to take a keep with 60 people vs 20?
You only come to complain when DC is the one getting their nose pushed in and losing for a change.
So its only fair to you when DC is winning?
You are forgeting that happens when all are pop locked, I'm talking about people intentionaly zerging the empty map, that's not even remotely the same. And you're forgeting ad always wins because of these actions, it's not pvp win, it's a pv door win.
DC has done plenty of its own share of PvDoor. Ive logged in plenty of times and seen the whole map blue.
oh, really, like when?
Like the last campaign.
Nightcapping has happened in every campaign since the beginning of the game.
Bottom line is ZOS will never split campaigns out by time zone so you are going to either have to accept it as it is or find something else.0 -
Skyperess✭✭How about they change things around here so it suits all players not just empty map ap farmers?0
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Skyperess✭✭And you're probably an ep or ad
DC night caps the map in my campaign most nights. Right now, they have emp and we have but 3 keeps, while AD has 2.
Just because it's not your faction holding the map overnight in your campaign, doesn't mean they don't do it in others.
Nothing keeps your faction from recruiting players that play at off hours to fend off the attacks from the other alliances if they want to stop night-capping.
Or do you want to set up queues in Cyrodiil that will only let in an equal number of players in all alliances at any time?
I'm against all caping and that includes dc, just want to make that clear, not ques, read the post from Tommy, he actualy has a good suggestions.0 -
Skyperess✭✭
Read post from Tommy please, this is not about only me, it's about equal possibilitie for all, thx0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The objective of winning the campaign is capturing resources, not player kills.
PvP happens during the course of capturing resources.
This is the intended design by the devs to keep player cross alliance farming from affecting the campaign score.
Problem is we players define a PvP win as killing players and tend not to like to play defense of the keeps.
We all forget that this is not a pure PvP type game.1 -
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Read post from Tommy please, this is not about only me, it's about equal possibilitie for all, thx
It’s not about equal possibilities for all if you are reducing people’s points for doing the same thing at a different time of the day. That’s much more unfair then someone taking the map that doesn’t match YOUR play time.
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Skyperess✭✭
Read post from Tommy please, this is not about only me, it's about equal possibilitie for all, thx
It’s not about equal possibilities for all if you are reducing people’s points for doing the same thing at a different time of the day. That’s much more unfair then someone taking the map that doesn’t match YOUR play time.
I proporsed different time zones, too, but anyway i think t's an excuse because mayority of players are europeans with not that much time difference, but the post above may be right, if you consider it a pve zone for farming ap, then it may seem unfair, yes, without being bothered by with pvp.0 -
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✭✭The_Old_Goat wrote: »This is an internationally played game which includes many people from different parts of the world whom all play, sleep and work at different hours of different time zones so I don't believe there's a problem to be solved.
It is a problem on the EU server though? A real problem too because time zones are very similar in Europe so during the night and early morning the server is almost completely empty and a few players can flip a map completely uncontested which determines the result of the campaign every time and it means the efforts of the people who play at prime time are wasted because most of the points go to the nightcap alliance. Please don’t make ignorant comments saying something is a non issue when it clearly has been for years.2 -
Vlad9425✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭And you're probably an ep or ad
And you are clearly DC.
So everything is perfectly fine to you when its DC rolling the map with all 6 emp keeps and EP and AD are both pushed back to their gates and DC has a 10K lead in points over both EP and AD? When its DC showing up to take a keep with 60 people vs 20?
You only come to complain when DC is the one getting their nose pushed in and losing for a change.
So its only fair to you when DC is winning?
I’ve noticed a lot of toxic players have gone to DC idk why that alliance is attracting so many of them nowadays.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I have always looked at it as opportunity to take back the map and generate AP when I get on in the morning.
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TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭And you're probably an ep or ad
And you are clearly DC.
So everything is perfectly fine to you when its DC rolling the map with all 6 emp keeps and EP and AD are both pushed back to their gates and DC has a 10K lead in points over both EP and AD? When its DC showing up to take a keep with 60 people vs 20?
You only come to complain when DC is the one getting their nose pushed in and losing for a change.
So its only fair to you when DC is winning?
I’ve noticed a lot of toxic players have gone to DC idk why that alliance is attracting so many of them nowadays.
I went DC because EP on PS4 is over populated.
edit - To be more politically correct.Edited by TequilaFire on March 18, 2021 4:21PM1 -
Cirantille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I dont think about it because I dont care
It doesnt matter whether you win or a lose campaign because rewards are not motivating enough
And I dont feel like grinding for "soldier of anguish" rings for 30 days
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