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@ZOS_GinaBruno reference # 210318-006551

HowellQagan

Here's mine from two weeks ago: 210308-004208

martinhpb16_ESO

This feature is still not working and no feedback on the issue either being looked at or fixed

Vanionator

I should know better by now, but everyday I check to see if it's fixed. It still isn't.

@ZOS_GinaBruno
Some feedback regarding the issue would be appreciated. Thanks.

HowellQagan

I wonder why this thread says "answered" on the bug report subforum list if I've been marking every single reply as NOT an answer, since I really haven't gotten any official answers here.

edit: wowzers, we got a dev reply
Marked as accepted, see first page.

DocFrost72

ZOS_Adrikoth wrote: »

Hey folks,

We wanted to let you know that we are aware of this issue and working on a fix.

Once we have an additional update we will let you know, but this fix will not be in the next incremental patch. We appreciate your patience as we work to resolve this issue.

Thank you. Hopefully in a few weeks it will be resolved.

menedhyn

ZOS_Adrikoth wrote: »

We wanted to let you know that we are aware of this issue and working on a fix

Thank you, and for confirmation of the issue.

Qbiken

ZOS_Adrikoth wrote: »

Hey folks,

We wanted to let you know that we are aware of this issue and working on a fix.

Once we have an additional update we will let you know, but this fix will not be in the next incremental patch. We appreciate your patience as we work to resolve this issue.

Sad to see a buggy mechanic ruining PvP making it way back. PvP has been alot more fun with this awful mechanic gone.

martinhpb16_ESO

Qbiken wrote: »

ZOS_Adrikoth wrote: »

Hey folks,

We wanted to let you know that we are aware of this issue and working on a fix.

Once we have an additional update we will let you know, but this fix will not be in the next incremental patch. We appreciate your patience as we work to resolve this issue.

Sad to see a buggy mechanic ruining PvP making it way back. PvP has been alot more fun with this awful mechanic gone.

Presumably because it puts you at an advantage.

Vanionator

Qbiken wrote: »

ZOS_Adrikoth wrote: »

Hey folks,

We wanted to let you know that we are aware of this issue and working on a fix.

Once we have an additional update we will let you know, but this fix will not be in the next incremental patch. We appreciate your patience as we work to resolve this issue.

Sad to see a buggy mechanic ruining PvP making it way back. PvP has been alot more fun with this awful mechanic gone.

[snip] I can understand that it might be frustrating that you can't cope with being stunned and then ganked, but your feelings of helplessness, is it so strong that you are ok with ruining builds that aren't related to pvp? [snip]

[Edited to remove Baiting]

Qbiken

Vanionator wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

ZOS_Adrikoth wrote: »

Hey folks,

We wanted to let you know that we are aware of this issue and working on a fix.

Once we have an additional update we will let you know, but this fix will not be in the next incremental patch. We appreciate your patience as we work to resolve this issue.

Sad to see a buggy mechanic ruining PvP making it way back. PvP has been alot more fun with this awful mechanic gone.

[snip] I can understand that it might be frustrating that you can't cope with being stunned and then ganked, but your feelings of helplessness, is it so strong that you are ok with ruining builds that aren't related to pvp? [snip]

Getting desynced from 40m+ away without any visual cues or counterplay [snip]

And the fact that PvE roleplayers (who are the main complainer in this thread) can't cope with them not being able to stun an overland NPC for whatever reason makes me feel sorry for those people. But apparently it's more important to keep their skyrim roleplay bubble intact than to work towards a more healthy PvP environment with fewer buggy mechanics. [snip]

[Edited to remove Baiting]

Vanionator

Qbiken wrote: »

Vanionator wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

ZOS_Adrikoth wrote: »

Hey folks,

We wanted to let you know that we are aware of this issue and working on a fix.

Once we have an additional update we will let you know, but this fix will not be in the next incremental patch. We appreciate your patience as we work to resolve this issue.

Sad to see a buggy mechanic ruining PvP making it way back. PvP has been alot more fun with this awful mechanic gone.

[snip] I can understand that it might be frustrating that you can't cope with being stunned and then ganked, but your feelings of helplessness, is it so strong that you are ok with ruining builds that aren't related to pvp? [snip]

Getting desynced from 40m+ away without any visual cues or counterplay [snip]

And the fact that PvE roleplayers (who are the main complainer in this thread) can't cope with them not being able to stun an overland NPC for whatever reason makes me feel sorry for those people. But apparently it's more important to keep their skyrim roleplay bubble intact than to work towards a more healthy PvP environment with fewer buggy mechanics. [snip]

Whoa. Slow down. Take a deep breath. I wasn't baiting you or attacking you. I was observing your behavior. [snip]
Maybe if you were more constructive in your posts, when people quote you, you wouldn't feel attacked.
I'll give you an example of how it works. Ok?
EXAMPLE:
Just a suggestion, I know that PVE players have their style of play with sneak(and I hope it gets fixed), but maybe for pvp, the devs could make some changes to how it works or functions. Like, maybe have a warning when someone is stalking you on the battlefield.
END OF EXAMPLE

See? This way, you are being more diplomatic. You acknowledge the needs of others, while asking for a change that benefits you.

Anyway, I'm not here to argue with you, please try have a good day. Cheers.

[Edited to remove Baiting]

Vanionator

ZOS_Adrikoth wrote: »

Hey folks,

We wanted to let you know that we are aware of this issue and working on a fix.

Once we have an additional update we will let you know, but this fix will not be in the next incremental patch. We appreciate your patience as we work to resolve this issue.

Thank you for replying.

DocFrost72

Qbiken wrote: »

Vanionator wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

ZOS_Adrikoth wrote: »

Hey folks,

We wanted to let you know that we are aware of this issue and working on a fix.

Once we have an additional update we will let you know, but this fix will not be in the next incremental patch. We appreciate your patience as we work to resolve this issue.

Sad to see a buggy mechanic ruining PvP making it way back. PvP has been alot more fun with this awful mechanic gone.

[snip] I can understand that it might be frustrating that you can't cope with being stunned and then ganked, but your feelings of helplessness, is it so strong that you are ok with ruining builds that aren't related to pvp? [snip]

Getting desynced from 40m+ away without any visual cues or counterplay [snip]

And the fact that PvE roleplayers (who are the main complainer in this thread) can't cope with them not being able to stun an overland NPC for whatever reason makes me feel sorry for those people. But apparently it's more important to keep their skyrim roleplay bubble intact than to work towards a more healthy PvP environment with fewer buggy mechanics. [snip]

[Edited to remove Baiting]

I just think the solution should be to fix the desync, not change a fundamental game design that's been here since 2014.

Starlock

So it's confirmed this is a bug? That it's going to be fixed? Thank gods - the next character I want to do some questing on was bad cat, and I just... I can't stand trying to play her with her in this sorry state of being unable to do what she does best. T_T

Unfortunate this fix is going to take a while, though.

martinhpb16_ESO

Starlock wrote: »

So it's confirmed this is a bug? That it's going to be fixed? Thank gods - the next character I want to do some questing on was bad cat, and I just... I can't stand trying to play her with her in this sorry state of being unable to do what she does best. T_T

Unfortunate this fix is going to take a while, though.

Still no ETA?

Red_Feather

ZOS_Adrikoth wrote: »

Hey folks,

We wanted to let you know that we are aware of this issue and working on a fix.

Once we have an additional update we will let you know, but this fix will not be in the next incremental patch. We appreciate your patience as we work to resolve this issue.

😊 thank you very much for posting. It is great knowing what is going on.

Mirona_Thetin

It's still not working after todays patch. So we have to wait at least another two weeks ...

DocFrost72

it is a noted fix for 7.0! We've been heard

goldenarcher1

Yep,sounds like a fix.

Fixed an issue where the guaranteed Critical Strike and bonus damage from attacks made while hidden in crouch would fail on many attacks. It will now properly grant a guaranteed Critical Strike on your next Direct Damage attack, deal 46% bonus damage if a Ranged attack (now Magical and Martial, rather than only Martial), 275% bonus damage if a Melee attack (Magical and Martial, rather than only Martial), and Stun the target on Martial or Magical melee attacks.

Note the bonus Critical Damage is still reduced significantly and these values are their original versions.


No stun for bow heavy attacks from stealth though,unless i am reading it wrong.

FauxHunter

Yeah, not excited to hear they're removing stuns from ranged attacks. Glad they're fixing the crit damage though at least.

HowellQagan

goldenarcher1 wrote: »

Yep,sounds like a fix.

Fixed an issue where the guaranteed Critical Strike and bonus damage from attacks made while hidden in crouch would fail on many attacks. It will now properly grant a guaranteed Critical Strike on your next Direct Damage attack, deal 46% bonus damage if a Ranged attack (now Magical and Martial, rather than only Martial), 275% bonus damage if a Melee attack (Magical and Martial, rather than only Martial), and Stun the target on Martial or Magical melee attacks.

Note the bonus Critical Damage is still reduced significantly and these values are their original versions.


No stun for bow heavy attacks from stealth though,unless i am reading it wrong.

Honestly, I'm fine with ranged stun being removed. It was a real pain in the bottom parts. Guaranteed crit and on top of that 46% bonus damage is still good enough to wreak havoc.

neverley

For the purpose of stun, are Ranged attacks different than Martial or Magical melee attacks in update 30?
I guess another person wondering about no stun with bows in pvp.

jp_marins

FauxHunter wrote: »

Yeah, not excited to hear they're removing stuns from ranged attacks. Glad they're fixing the crit damage though at least.

My thoughts exactly This update has already come out? Cause i'm a bow user too and i'm not getting any stun from stealth attack, not sure if it's still bugged or they removed it making the Master Assassin passive totally useless for me (which makes no sense)

Plus, i don't get why nerf Snipe damage and ALSO remove it's stun, it's a double nerf making the skill almost pointless to use in game aswell...If we are not stunning the target anymore, why don't give us the preview damage back? To compensate it's cast time, now it senseless using it rather than any other ranged spammable.

The stealth/sneaky playstyle is my favourite thing to do, one of the main reasons i've bought the game and enjoying the roleplay (and one major differencial thing the Scroll series has over other games), so patch by patch they are almost killing it, it's been very unpleasant playing last couple months, not much enjoyable at all. And this is not balance, this is almost killing the range/gank playstyle to the ground, we could have found a much better balance than this, starting by that, take the stun out or nerf the damage (and personally i think it would make more sense just take the stun out and upgrade the dmg as it was before reducing castime), doing both is overdoing by a lot

HowellQagan

@jp_marins No, it's still bugged (see this whole thread) and that's why it doesn't crit or stun. Blackwood update will fix it and remove stun from ranged and add sneak bonuses to magical attacks too.

katanagirl1

HowellQagan wrote: »

@jp_marins No, it's still bugged (see this whole thread) and that's why it doesn't crit or stun. Blackwood update will fix it and remove stun from ranged and add sneak bonuses to magical attacks too.

I completely disagree with the removal of ranged stun from stealth and I don’t have a PvP toon that takes advantage of this. I do have a PvE main who does, and has played this way for years.

Don’t make these changes. I’d rather die to ranged stun attacks in PvP that not be able to use them in PvE.

jp_marins

katanagirl1 wrote: »

HowellQagan wrote: »

@jp_marins No, it's still bugged (see this whole thread) and that's why it doesn't crit or stun. Blackwood update will fix it and remove stun from ranged and add sneak bonuses to magical attacks too.

I completely disagree with the removal of ranged stun from stealth and I don’t have a PvP toon that takes advantage of this. I do have a PvE main who does, and has played this way for years.

Don’t make these changes. I’d rather die to ranged stun attacks in PvP that not be able to use them in PvE.

I totally understand you and I also miss it. But I do get the complains of who those that don't like being stunned from another players 20+ meters away, but we could find something in-between here to make Snipe not totally useless in pvp/e because the way that this patch presents is totally gonna be. Right now Snipe has almost the same dmg as Crystal Weapon on tooltip for example with a plus 0.8 time cast which is not worthy it.

So at least Zenimax should give us something to make Snipe useful again, as i said the most simple ones would be have it stun the target from stealth (making it a good opener) or increasing the dmg, as if you are not stunning to make it more useful against other spammables. Another idea could be at least making the Snipe setting enemies off balance and another one against a off-balance target would stun it.

As I said, from the last few years until now I never saw a really balance towards bow builds, they just seem to only nerf it to the ground more and more, not balance at all, it's not competitive to play, it's really a shame for those (like me) who enjoy playing archers and Ranger-type class on rpg games. I just would like to see a better-effort in balancing the class, it's not that hard to get there

As the way I see right now, for a very liberty game as it presumes, it becomes very narrow: if you want to play at range need to be mag and if u want to play upclose u are better of playing stam, even the latest arena bow they added reforces that, increasing Snipe dmg if u are 3m away (Yes, 3 METERS) from your target, what's the sense on that? What bow-user in any rpg/medieval/fantasy world besides Legolas would pull out a bow against a target at 3 meters range?? These kind of things totally breake game immersion, balance and fun.

Tommy_The_Gun

Ranged stun CC was actually a huge part of burst combo. Because without stun all attacks will be dodge anyway. And as far as I can tell it is impossible to do some crazy combo and burst some one in one shot next patch.

Last patch they nerfed that playstyle to the ground, so even if it had stun CC it would not hepl much.

Not that ranged ganking was not toxic, but at least it had counter-play. But looking without any bias, I think that PvP is loosing more & more playstyles.

Snipe is basically a useless skill at this point, even for PvE dps, but at least it was interesting to use in solo overland PvE... And now it will be even more useless lol...

katanagirl1

Let me clarify that I DO NOT use snipe, I use poison injection when in stealth as a combat lead-in and I always got a stun before.

It is not just snipe.