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  • Pr0jectseph
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    I'd just like to point out that another nail in this proverbial coffin is the fact that 'Shadowy Disguise', a skill that purports to guarantee a critical hit on the next attack, does not, in fact, give a critical on every attempt.

    The crit chance on all abilities/AA's seems to be coming directly from your character's overall weapon crit chance.

    Again, not to mention passive skills like Master Assassin still claiming to enhance stun time on sneak attack (when sneak attack no longer stuns).

    It has to be an overlooked bug.
  • itscompton
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    I can confirm this bug is present on the PS servers.

    I'd say it's incredible there hasn't been a dev response but looking through the bug report pages it's pretty clear communication with customers isn't even on the top 100 list of Zos priorities.
  • Mirona_Thetin
    It's even worse ... in the Nightblade feedback thread I read that the Shadowy Disguise also does no longer guarantee a crit and invisiblity is also not working as indended ... you get visible if you are in detection range of an enemy (Grimhallow demonstrated this in a recent vid) ...
    Edited by Mirona_Thetin on March 18, 2021 4:29PM
  • SHOW
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    It's even worse ... in the Nightblade feedback thread I read that the Shadowy Disguise also does no longer guarantee a crit and invisiblity is also not working as indended ... [even in cloak] you get visible if you are in detection range of an enemy (Grimhallow demonstrated this in a recent vid) ...

    This.

    Seems even cloak is not working in detection range now.

    Very likely related to OP's bug, something wrong with the detection radius here...

    Edited by SHOW on March 18, 2021 5:22PM
  • whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO
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    Thanks for this Thread,

    I thought I was going Insane and I even posted about this trouble in the General forum until someone posted this link in my thread, of course I get the [snip] Players saying [snip] things like, "it's Good..." "they need to keep it that way.." etc etc, basically throwing crap at the Nightblade class.

    [Minor edit for Bait.]


    Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on March 24, 2021 6:31PM
    Signed, Kotaro Atani.PS5 NA
    VR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS5, and of course Master Thief. Currently 3120 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS5. Currently 810 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS5 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS5 except for maybe two-three Motifs. Both Companions are Max level as are their Skills.Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade. Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home ! "I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.(All 18 characters are AD only! This one is a AD Loyalist)Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS5 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS5 is my dedicated Game Platform.Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past...""Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door...""A perfect society is always elsewhere..."- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs.
  • robertthebard
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    Confirmed, I haven't been getting stuns on my ranged sneak attacks either, and the only thing that changed was U29.
  • whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO
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    Any update on this @ZOS_GinaBruno

    This thread as been going on since March 9th and you advised us that you were aware of the Guild History Bug, but still Nothing on this, please just let us know that Team ZOS is Aware,

    Thank you.
    Signed, Kotaro Atani.PS5 NA
    VR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS5, and of course Master Thief. Currently 3120 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS5. Currently 810 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS5 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS5 except for maybe two-three Motifs. Both Companions are Max level as are their Skills.Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade. Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home ! "I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.(All 18 characters are AD only! This one is a AD Loyalist)Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS5 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS5 is my dedicated Game Platform.Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past...""Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door...""A perfect society is always elsewhere..."- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs.
  • Hellmasker
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    Phew, and I thought I was going mad. I used to be able to reliably oneshot snipe guards from stealth in a sacrament. From a oneshot to "takes only a quarter of health with them immediately responding" is pretty annoying. I thought it might have to do with the gutting of snipe itself, but reading all of it here, that makes a lot more sense.
    Asgar Hellmasker, Silencer of the Dark Brotherhood
  • goldenarcher1
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    Hopefully a fix coming in Monday's patch?
  • Vanionator
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    That would be a surprise.
  • SHOW
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    I think OP's issues may be related to the bugs posted below.

    There is definitely something seriously wrong with sneak/cloak vs detection this patch:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/566239/video-evidence-stealth-detection-is-completely-broken

    Cloaked Enemy is Visible and Targetable:

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    Wood Elf Detection Radius is ~20m vs Crouched Enemies:

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    Edited by SHOW on March 22, 2021 4:50AM
  • Vanionator
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    I don't know about you guys and gals, but for me, all the mentioned mechanics are still broken.
    I'm not surprised, but I am disappointed.
  • FauxHunter
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    Darn, was hoping to have it fixed before heroes reforged ended. So I could max out sneak attack damage in the Warfare tree
    -Orion Snow-Lichen
    Bosmer Hunting Warden
  • Ringod123
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    Still no stun from sneak and still no acknowledgement from a single dev. Is there even any point in us using the bug reporting forum? Seems we do your job for you just for you to go and ignore it all.
    Edited by Ringod123 on March 22, 2021 4:00PM
  • RaddlemanNumber7
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    Don't appear to be any fixes for this in patch v6.3.6 :(
    PC EU
  • Red_Feather
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    Don't appear to be any fixes for this in patch v6.3.6 :(

    :(
  • Vanionator
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    Someone did look at the thread, there was one person who had their post edited for "baiting".
    @ZOS_GinaBruno please take a look at this and give us a reply.
    Is there a number we can call?
    Is there an online form or one in the game that we can fill out?
  • martinhpb16_ESO
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    Stealth nerf to stealth stun 'n' crit?

    [Edit to remove misinformation/conspiracy]
    Edited by [Deleted User] on March 22, 2021 9:45PM
    At least the spelling is difficult for you.
    Hew's Bane*
  • Larcomar
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    Still broken after patch today grrrr..... This is [snip] ridiculous.

    [Edited to remove Profanity]
    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on March 23, 2021 3:00PM
  • Starlock
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    Combed through the patch notes to look for anything about this, and no mention of changes to stealth critical strikes. Nothing in the new PC/Mac patch either.

    ???
  • WapYzel
    WapYzel
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    2 weeks gone and we still don't know IS IT A BUG or MECHANICS CHANGE

    How many people should write here or in other posts to GET ANY ANSWER FROM ZOS?

    - IF it is bug THEN JUST WRITE IT, we will wait for fix.
    - IF it is mechanics change, why there is no information in patch notes.

    How we can trust ZOS team if they can make such changes on the sly?
    Do we need to afraid of every game update with game mechanics changes without patch notes?

    ===============================================================================
    I am playing hunter in PVE, I am happy to waste my time to go around the mob to make sneak atack. I can kill it without it, but sneak attack mechanics makes my gameplay more varied and interesting and I loved it.

    All last 2 weeks I feel no happy of quests by playing my hunter role.
    There is no reason to hide, I am just killing mobs with 1 button and OFCOURSE GAMEPLAY BECOME MONOTONOUS.

    Please, give us an answer already.
  • MinnesotaKid
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    Can confirm, both crit and stealth are fubar!
    Please fix Zos!

    You're killing this game for me....
    MinnesotaKid

  • SownRose
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    Vanionator wrote: »
    I don't know about you guys and gals, but for me, all the mentioned mechanics are still broken.
    I'm not surprised, but I am disappointed.

    This is why I waited 3 years after release to buy eso. I played TES 3-5 to completion. I love TES, but I knew they take a little while to get all the glitches and kinks out of their games. So your company's quirks lost you 3 years of subs.
    Now everytime there's an update, I completely expect half the game to be broken till the next patch.
    My first toon became my grand Master crafter. She's a Bosmer NB who loves the Thieves Guild & DB. She picks flowers & chests on her way to sneak up then steal and kill.
    This update really messed me up & a little deer isn't going to fix it for most of us. Today can be a new day where you practice real PR and talk to us. A convo, not a one shot. Thank you!
    Edited by SownRose on March 23, 2021 3:01PM
    Elewyn Starsong since TES3 Morrowind.
    Old Lady Gamer Girl
    "I'm not a Boomer, I'm GenX. Get it right! We gave you computers,
    Video games & the X games. You're welcome!"
  • Ringod123
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    Another day of a dev team & community team who cant be bothered to even just acknowledge huge bugs in their game, never mind fix them. Clearly us plebs don't deserve a single person taking 2 minutes out of their time to respond to us, and it's the job of some of those people to actually communicate with us, why don't they?
  • BlackSparrow
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    Vanionator wrote: »
    Someone did look at the thread, there was one person who had their post edited for "baiting".

    Note that the forum mods =/= the dev team. The mods are likely as in the dark about this as we are.

    Everyone should be submitting /bug reports about this in-game... that gets dev attention more often than forum posts.
    Edited by BlackSparrow on March 23, 2021 4:25PM
    Living vicariously through my characters.

    My Girls:
    "If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"

    Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
    Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
    Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
    Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
    Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
    Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
    Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
    Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
    Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
    Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
    Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
    Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
    Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
    Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
    Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
    Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
    Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"

    (Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)
  • DocFrost72
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    Vanionator wrote: »
    Someone did look at the thread, there was one person who had their post edited for "baiting".

    Note that the forum mods =/= the dev team. The mods are likely as in the dark about this as we are.

    Everyone should be submitting /bug reports about this in-game... that gets dev attention more often than forum posts.

    I've sent in mine, but a little goes a long way. Even something as simple as "Thanks for bringing this to our attention, our team is looking into it" would be appreciated. That literally took me 8 seconds to type, and promises absolutely nothing but that someone was heard.
  • goldenarcher1
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    Imagine if sorc shields weren't working.... :o

    Someone throw us a bone,please?
  • menedhyn
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    Logged my ticket (bug/feedback) on the 17th March. I echo other comments made here - some acknowledgement that either this is being looked into, or (better still) confirmation that it is an issue and the combat team is aware, would be most welcome. It isn't difficult to test what we're experiencing.

    A bit of communication would be appreciated.

    Thank you.
    'Jobal kha'jay'
  • Dalbaeth
    Dalbaeth
    menedhyn wrote: »

    A bit of communication would be appreciated.

    Thank you.

    This...a simple acknowledgement would be nice
  • Vanionator
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    Thanks for your feedback!

    @ZOS_GinaBruno reference # 210323-004927
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