Double ap does not count towards AvA rank

Cirantille

Is this intended?

Even if you get 20k tick it goes 10k towards your rank

We were hoping to level some AvA ranks for achievements, colours etc and thought we would endure this odd-feeling of changes for double ap opportunity

But since things to buy with AP is limited, this takes a lot of players' motivation to endure this new adjustments

Edit: It does not count towards leaderboards either aka lvl rewards, skill line etc

Abstraqt

If that's intended I can see a lot of people not participating in this test, since the uses for AP are so limited, the ranking up is one of the few rewarding parts to gaining it. Hopefully this is fixed.

UrbanMonk

@ZOS_GinaBruno - is this really intended?

Cirantille

Abstraqt wrote: »

If that's intended I can see a lot of people not participating in this test, since the uses for AP are so limited, the ranking up is one of the few rewarding parts to gaining it. Hopefully this is fixed.

Agreed.

It already feels really bad and slow as a magicka player, I am surprised how many things count as AOE, even the self targeted ones...

I was hoping to endure this for grinding my way to Grand overlord and I thought it would be an opportunity but...

BohnT2

Abstraqt wrote: »

If that's intended I can see a lot of people not participating in this test, since the uses for AP are so limited, the ranking up is one of the few rewarding parts to gaining it. Hopefully this is fixed.

AP offers cheap supply of PvE potions so there's an incentive for PvErs

Dagoth_Rac

Does it count towards Leaderboard rank? Like, will I get my Tier 1 Rewards and transmute crystals twice as fast? Or will I get double AP for spending but normal AP toward Tier 1? I am Centurion rank in PvP. I have done my fair share of it and find it enjoyable in bursts, where I get in a PvP mood and do it a bunch before getting burned out and not coming back for a couple months. But I don't enjoy it enough to endure these horrific AoE changes. Now I just want to get my transmute crystals and get out.

Cirantille

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Does it count towards Leaderboard rank? Like, will I get my Tier 1 Rewards and transmute crystals twice as fast? Or will I get double AP for spending but normal AP toward Tier 1? I am Centurion rank in PvP. I have done my fair share of it and find it enjoyable in bursts, where I get in a PvP mood and do it a bunch before getting burned out and not coming back for a couple months. But I don't enjoy it enough to endure these horrific AoE changes. Now I just want to get my transmute crystals and get out.

Nope

It does not count towards leaderboards either, just like usual you get half

I am starting to think something is seriously wrong because this should not be intended...

heaven13

Cirantille wrote: »

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Does it count towards Leaderboard rank? Like, will I get my Tier 1 Rewards and transmute crystals twice as fast? Or will I get double AP for spending but normal AP toward Tier 1? I am Centurion rank in PvP. I have done my fair share of it and find it enjoyable in bursts, where I get in a PvP mood and do it a bunch before getting burned out and not coming back for a couple months. But I don't enjoy it enough to endure these horrific AoE changes. Now I just want to get my transmute crystals and get out.

Nope

It does not count towards leaderboards either, just like usual you get half

I am starting to think something is seriously wrong because this should not be intended...

Yikes. Double AP has never worked like this before, afaik. And as a templar main, the fake double AP is now not worth trying to participate in the tests because I'd basically be free AP for someone else anyway.

Cirantille

heaven13 wrote: »

Cirantille wrote: »

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Does it count towards Leaderboard rank? Like, will I get my Tier 1 Rewards and transmute crystals twice as fast? Or will I get double AP for spending but normal AP toward Tier 1? I am Centurion rank in PvP. I have done my fair share of it and find it enjoyable in bursts, where I get in a PvP mood and do it a bunch before getting burned out and not coming back for a couple months. But I don't enjoy it enough to endure these horrific AoE changes. Now I just want to get my transmute crystals and get out.

Nope

It does not count towards leaderboards either, just like usual you get half

I am starting to think something is seriously wrong because this should not be intended...

Yikes. Double AP has never worked like this before, afaik. And as a templar main, the fake double AP is now not worth trying to participate in the tests because I'd basically be free AP for someone else anyway.

True

I was thinking, yeah okay, this feels very awkward and slow to play but at least can level AvA rank for achievement, colour etc but now it lost its point

Probably can grind this better/faster off test times

SpacemanSpiff1

Given ZOS's track record, it's hard to guess if this is an oversight or intentional.

Bucky_13

Lol, guess I will help out with the testing waaaaay less than I intended if this is the case.

Edut: considering that AP from daily rewards counts towards your AWA ranking, this is really really dumb.

Cirantille

SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »

Given ZOS's track record, it's hard to guess if this is an oversight or intentional.

I am suspicious too, yeah.

Why should people get empty AP and why should it motivate us to play?

I mean if the point is grinding AP you can do this in off test times and get faster results, faster results that counts towards your AvA rank and leaderboard points, transmutes etc.

Combat is already awkward

Feels like card gameplay where you need to pick one skill and think which one to prioritise next

ZOS_GinaBruno

Thanks everyone, we're looking into this.

Neophyte

So this won’t be fixed until tomorrow I guess?

Reverb

This is great. In addition to doing the testing at a time when the Cyrodiil pops are already very low due to the Imperial City event, the incentive to participate in the testing wasn’t implemented correctly.

There’s no way that this week will mimic normal conditions well enough for the data to be valid, and sadly it will be used to set future direction anyway.

Ackwalan

Kingbawsack wrote: »

So this won’t be fixed until tomorrow I guess?

If it requires a patch to fix, it will be at least 2 weeks. Patches need to be approved by stadia before going live.

Cirantille

Ackwalan wrote: »

Kingbawsack wrote: »

So this won’t be fixed until tomorrow I guess?

If it requires a patch to fix, it will be at least 2 weeks. Patches need to be approved by stadia before going live.

Rip:

Motivation to play

DarcyMardin

I was wondering why my progress wasn’t advancing much as my group captured keep after keep after keep. And me plodding around on my slow, Rapids-less horse, usually missing the Rapids being cast for the rest of the group because I couldn’t catch up to them. And when I reached the fight, all my skills were greyed out most of the time.

Are we having fun yet?

Cirantille

DarcyMardin wrote: »

I was wondering why my progress wasn’t advancing much as my group captured keep after keep after keep. And me plodding around on my slow, Rapids-less horse, usually missing the Rapids being cast for the rest of the group because I couldn’t catch up to them. And when I reached the fight, all my skills were greyed out most of the time.

Are we having fun yet?

Yeah, rapids count as AOE too, though never been lagged or killed by ball group by being "rapid to death"

They should have thought these tests better to make a better blacklist

Ackwalan

Cirantille wrote: »

DarcyMardin wrote: »

I was wondering why my progress wasn’t advancing much as my group captured keep after keep after keep. And me plodding around on my slow, Rapids-less horse, usually missing the Rapids being cast for the rest of the group because I couldn’t catch up to them. And when I reached the fight, all my skills were greyed out most of the time.

Are we having fun yet?

Yeah, rapids count as AOE too, though never been lagged or killed by ball group by being "rapid to death"

They should have thought these tests better to make a better blacklist

So you've never been run over by a ball group, that could't be slowed down, because they had several dedicated rapid spams going?

pauld1_ESO

Why complain? You are get double AP to buy all those great Golden Vendor items they pick out for us every week! Oh wait...

Reverb

So everyone who was hoping to jump in and get Rapids back quickly...you’ve been zos’d

mattiellosa

Lmao this gives literally zero incentive to go into Cyrodiil. Unplayable combat (As a magplar main) and no x2 ap to farm for achievements.

BigBragg

Kingbawsack wrote: »

So this won’t be fixed until tomorrow I guess?

Probably the next biweekly incremental patch brought to you by Stadia.

Abstraqt

BohnT2 wrote: »

Abstraqt wrote: »

If that's intended I can see a lot of people not participating in this test, since the uses for AP are so limited, the ranking up is one of the few rewarding parts to gaining it. Hopefully this is fixed.

AP offers cheap supply of PvE potions so there's an incentive for PvErs

Absolutely, that and the occasional golden item are the only way I ever spend AP, i dare say a lot of people are the same

Banana

I'm only in there to get to tier 1. Looks like I'm waiting

Neophyte

Ackwalan wrote: »

Kingbawsack wrote: »

So this won’t be fixed until tomorrow I guess?

If it requires a patch to fix, it will be at least 2 weeks. Patches need to be approved by stadia before going live.

2 weeks 🙈, please no

Myrddin1357

I got my Rapids on a low level toon this morning in just under an hour this morning. Whatever else this testing brings, I'll have that consolation at least. I was on AD and there was no one on and so with double AP and low pop bonus I was getting 9k per resource flip and around 25k per castle flip!

Though it was strange that not all the AP were counted for my alliance skill line increase. Sometimes it seemed to give the full amount and other times only partial. There seemed to be no fixed pattern.

zaria

Reverb wrote: »

This is great. In addition to doing the testing at a time when the Cyrodiil pops are already very low due to the Imperial City event, the incentive to participate in the testing wasn’t implemented correctly.

There’s no way that this week will mimic normal conditions well enough for the data to be valid, and sadly it will be used to set future direction anyway.

Its an skill issue like then you wipe on first trash in Fungal 1
RIP

CaffeinatedMayhem

Reverb wrote: »

This is great. In addition to doing the testing at a time when the Cyrodiil pops are already very low due to the Imperial City event, the incentive to participate in the testing wasn’t implemented correctly.

There’s no way that this week will mimic normal conditions well enough for the data to be valid, and sadly it will be used to set future direction anyway.

Sure it is, I won't be playing much even if the AP thing *is* fixed. Basically telling the devs they would have to rework every class if this is the choice in fixes.

Cirantille

Myrddin1357 wrote: »

I got my Rapids on a low level toon this morning in just under an hour this morning. Whatever else this testing brings, I'll have that consolation at least. I was on AD and there was no one on and so with double AP and low pop bonus I was getting 9k per resource flip and around 25k per castle flip!

Though it was strange that not all the AP were counted for my alliance skill line increase. Sometimes it seemed to give the full amount and other times only partial. There seemed to be no fixed pattern.

Lucky you

At least counted half the times

I checked it frequently (exact numbers on AvA rank) and waited, still nada

Still half the AP registered

It is already frustrating to play in this process but not allowing players to progress through achievements, skill lines or lvl rewards is big bonus to push them out of Cyrodiil gates