I met this mean dude in IC...

zergbase_ESO

FafiQ_xP wrote: »

I kill this low lvl player in IC and stole his telvars then he said something mean to me. I already report him, what do you think guys? Should be people like this banned?

Normal had guy complain because I killed him called me list things that would get me banned here for repeating. ZoS does not really do much at all about these people. But I see it as an achivement that they were so salty to whisper me to start with. It makes me smile that they get so tilted.

Giraffon

I've always felt like the percentage taken was too high. 50% of what you have is only okay during the event because it's double Tel Var so it's like you didn't lose anything and you get a free port back to base so you can deposit it.

Tinyfangs

Cin_Vhetin wrote: »

While I sympathize with your wife, she can do either ICP or WGT group dungeons and get the tickets from the final boss. That is a fully PvE option so long as 3 other players run with her. You aren't actually forced into Imperial Districts/Sewers.

I play similarly to UrbanMonk's wife and was a bit peeved at zos for the pvp bs, then when I found the ICP/WGT option - well okay. BUT no doubt zos wants $ spent on tickets from store.

As for OP and the lowbie: lowbie has few resources (resilience/recourse) to do anything immediately about his loss but to try to pull a bad juju to you with (and I find this ironic) a whisper. I'm sure others with lowbie's limpness experience has done more to impel them to strengthen their game and achieve success as their best revenge. [/quote]

Actually I'd say the part about makes them to get better only works for those who are into pvp. We are talking about an event though, which seems to forces newcomers who want tickets into the pvp zone (the two dungeons have a level requirement). If this is someone usually into pve, it could sour the game for them having that as an early experience, and even if not, it tends to be these kind of experience which give pvpers a bad name among those who do not pvp.

When I first started gaming, the first game I played forced me to enter pvp zones for pve quests. It manifested a truly deep hatred and prejudice within me in regards to pvpers. I viewed all players into pvp according to those experiences (was a game where you could lose randomly anything, including the stuff you wore). I'd even go as far as to say it was traumatizing. I would sit behind my keys, shiver and even cry, and to me all players into pvp were psychopaths. That lasted for years, until someone nagged me to try the Ettenmoors. Eventually I gave in, and this gave me a new oulook, but since then I have had spoken to many others who view pvpers exactly as I did before the Ettenmoors gave me a new perspective.

One can say games should just not create scenarios which can lead to this split in the community, but where it is present, I feel it is up to us pvpers to show we aren't jerks, and through that might even get others interested in our hobby. The more the merrier, no? ^_^

UrbanMonk

Tinyfangs wrote: »

Cin_Vhetin wrote: »

While I sympathize with your wife, she can do either ICP or WGT group dungeons and get the tickets from the final boss. That is a fully PvE option so long as 3 other players run with her. You aren't actually forced into Imperial Districts/Sewers.

I play similarly to UrbanMonk's wife and was a bit peeved at zos for the pvp bs, then when I found the ICP/WGT option - well okay. BUT no doubt zos wants $ spent on tickets from store.

As for OP and the lowbie: lowbie has few resources (resilience/recourse) to do anything immediately about his loss but to try to pull a bad juju to you with (and I find this ironic) a whisper. I'm sure others with lowbie's limpness experience has done more to impel them to strengthen their game and achieve success as their best revenge.

Actually I'd say the part about makes them to get better only works for those who are into pvp. We are talking about an event though, which seems to forces newcomers who want tickets into the pvp zone (the two dungeons have a level requirement). If this is someone usually into pve, it could sour the game for them having that as an early experience, and even if not, it tends to be these kind of experience which give pvpers a bad name among those who do not pvp.

When I first started gaming, the first game I played forced me to enter pvp zones for pve quests. It manifested a truly deep hatred and prejudice within me in regards to pvpers. I viewed all players into pvp according to those experiences (was a game where you could lose randomly anything, including the stuff you wore). I'd even go as far as to say it was traumatizing. I would sit behind my keys, shiver and even cry, and to me all players into pvp were psychopaths. That lasted for years, until someone nagged me to try the Ettenmoors. Eventually I gave in, and this gave me a new oulook, but since then I have had spoken to many others who view pvpers exactly as I did before the Ettenmoors gave me a new perspective.

One can say games should just not create scenarios which can lead to this split in the community, but where it is present, I feel it is up to us pvpers to show we aren't jerks, and through that might even get others interested in our hobby. The more the merrier, no? ^_^

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In some past event, I cant remeber which one, you could get tickets for killing an insect or spider or a rat, why wouldn't they just do the same for IC, let those PVErs get their tickets easy and if the want more of those lootboxes, then they go and do the quests.
But yes you are absolutely right, forcing people to go into PvP zone does not result too well for some.

So many times I come across lowbies and low CP player, and I just move on, but then all of a sudden, 5 more lowbies come along and then they try to kill you.. leaves me wondering what should I do...and eventually I end up killing them all.

Jaraal

Anfieldkris wrote: »

I PvP a lot and the only supposedly salty whisper I can recall is from when I intentionally ran up to the door of Bleakers to die to the guards to death spawn somewhere else and some guy coming out of the door chucked in a light attack and then whispered to say I was ‘&hit at pvp’ and should ‘l2p’. Think he was working on his salty whisper apprenticeship at the time.

This reminds me of a time when I was skyshard hunting deep in enemy territory, and I got tired of it and wanted a quick port back to base.

I ran up to Sej, which was held by a different alliance. There were no players around, so I went to the front door and got jumped by 10 hostile NPCs. But I forgot I was wearing a set of Death’s Wind, and every time they got me down to 35%, it procced, knocked them all back, and stunned them. My health regen was so high that they kept getting back up, trying to beat me down, and kept getting knocked back. Of course, I couldn’t take a piece of armor off because I was in combat....
so I ended up running away and hoofing it back to my own territory.

ThePedge

UrbanMonk wrote: »

Its not about bein lowbie or less CP. Its directly ZoS fault, if people have to go through pain of questing in PvP zone to get Tickets.
My wife is 1000+CP and has never done a single day of PvP. Heck she is not even good enough to do anything hard. But she enjoyed collecting stuff amd housing and questing. And this weekend, she was furious over how she is being forced to do quest in a zone where she can't go 10 meters without being killed by random players. Low lvl/ max lvl all alike.
Last IC event you could get the tickets from Killing Bosses...what changed this year? Forcing those who can't quest in IC to buy it from crown store?

I can imagine why that lowbie wrote what he wrote. Not trying to justify his behaviour but we have to look past what he wrote and understand why he wrote.

Go do one of the dungeons????

Tinyfangs

ThePedge wrote: »

UrbanMonk wrote: »

Its not about bein lowbie or less CP. Its directly ZoS fault, if people have to go through pain of questing in PvP zone to get Tickets.
My wife is 1000+CP and has never done a single day of PvP. Heck she is not even good enough to do anything hard. But she enjoyed collecting stuff amd housing and questing. And this weekend, she was furious over how she is being forced to do quest in a zone where she can't go 10 meters without being killed by random players. Low lvl/ max lvl all alike.
Last IC event you could get the tickets from Killing Bosses...what changed this year? Forcing those who can't quest in IC to buy it from crown store?

I can imagine why that lowbie wrote what he wrote. Not trying to justify his behaviour but we have to look past what he wrote and understand why he wrote.

Go do one of the dungeons????

The dungeons have a level requirement of 45, at least if what is shown to my below cap characters is correct. So new ESO players who have not levelled to cap yet, do not have that option available. Only way for them to get tickets is to do the city quests, and that's not nice for players who hate or are scared of pvp.

And please no 'then they should just level faster'. Some like to take their time, not everyone likes to race to end game.

Tinyfangs

UrbanMonk wrote: »

In some past event, I cant remeber which one, you could get tickets for killing an insect or spider or a rat, why wouldn't they just do the same for IC, let those PVErs get their tickets easy and if the want more of those lootboxes, then they go and do the quests.
But yes you are absolutely right, forcing people to go into PvP zone does not result too well for some.

So many times I come across lowbies and low CP player, and I just move on, but then all of a sudden, 5 more lowbies come along and then they try to kill you.. leaves me wondering what should I do...and eventually I end up killing them all.

Lol Monk - they attack you - they are fair game!

Jaraal

Tinyfangs wrote: »

ThePedge wrote: »

UrbanMonk wrote: »

Its not about bein lowbie or less CP. Its directly ZoS fault, if people have to go through pain of questing in PvP zone to get Tickets.
My wife is 1000+CP and has never done a single day of PvP. Heck she is not even good enough to do anything hard. But she enjoyed collecting stuff amd housing and questing. And this weekend, she was furious over how she is being forced to do quest in a zone where she can't go 10 meters without being killed by random players. Low lvl/ max lvl all alike.
Last IC event you could get the tickets from Killing Bosses...what changed this year? Forcing those who can't quest in IC to buy it from crown store?

I can imagine why that lowbie wrote what he wrote. Not trying to justify his behaviour but we have to look past what he wrote and understand why he wrote.

Go do one of the dungeons????

The dungeons have a level requirement of 45

I soloed normal Spindleclutch 1 on a lvl 15 character (with 810 CP).

Tinyfangs

Jaraal wrote: »

Tinyfangs wrote: »

ThePedge wrote: »

UrbanMonk wrote: »

Its not about bein lowbie or less CP. Its directly ZoS fault, if people have to go through pain of questing in PvP zone to get Tickets.
My wife is 1000+CP and has never done a single day of PvP. Heck she is not even good enough to do anything hard. But she enjoyed collecting stuff amd housing and questing. And this weekend, she was furious over how she is being forced to do quest in a zone where she can't go 10 meters without being killed by random players. Low lvl/ max lvl all alike.
Last IC event you could get the tickets from Killing Bosses...what changed this year? Forcing those who can't quest in IC to buy it from crown store?

I can imagine why that lowbie wrote what he wrote. Not trying to justify his behaviour but we have to look past what he wrote and understand why he wrote.

Go do one of the dungeons????

The dungeons have a level requirement of 45

I soloed normal Spindleclutch 1 on a lvl 15 character (with 810 CP).

When I go on my tiny new nb and go to dungeon finder, WGT and Imperial City Prison are both locked, reading in red 'Unlocked at level 45'.

Spindelclutch is available at level 15, WGT and IP do not seem to be, that's the difference, not if you can solo it

pauld1_ESO

rollingphoneseb17_ESO wrote: »

It's normal. It's a problem that is partially Zenimax's, for making events PVP only, people get way too frustrated when another player ruins their progression and overall experience in the game. You don't know how this dude felt when you smacked all the life out of him. That feeling made him toxic to the point he sent you these messages. There is nothing special about this. He or she is totally not only one that toxic, myself included.

These people should definitely be not banned for toxicity. If it ever should be addressed, banning is definitely not the way to go.

In your case you just should go on and do your thing, ignoring people that cause you bad feelings as you caused them the same or even worse.

[snip]

[Edited to remove Baiting]

Sorry dude but wishing death on someone's family because you died in pvp is over the top toxic, just under "kill yourself". Your "feelings" are irrelevant. If one cannot handle getting killed in PvP then one should stay out of PvP.

Personally I wish tells would just be disabled in PvP zones.

Knootewoot

You should have stopped after "Thanks for the Telvars"

As soon as you continue and feel hurt, they have won.

If you stopped after the good "Telvar" comment, you would have won.

Dark_Lord_Kuro

On the other hand my guild master got the othe way around

He was trying to do a quest, the balistae one, he was a the stem he was suppose to put tar in the forge when he was attacked
Tried again saime thing
Once more but he equipe the sit on chair emote, that he use after seeing the other player
To note hedidnt had any telvar after the first few time
It continued for half an hour at least
Then my guild master got whisper from the other player because he was making him waste is time since he didnt have telvar

Gundug

I’m not sure why some people are claiming White Gold Tower doesn’t give drops. I’ve been soloing it on normal every day of the event and gotten a box every time from the final boss. I have also gotten boxes from trash mobs, the other bosses, chests and even backpacks. It’s not difficult to solo, around 15-20 minutes for me, and trivial with a group. Forget soloing without having maximum force lock skills though, as the first boss will reset infinitely if you cannot open the cage swiftly enough.

Jaraal

Tinyfangs wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

Tinyfangs wrote: »

ThePedge wrote: »

UrbanMonk wrote: »

Its not about bein lowbie or less CP. Its directly ZoS fault, if people have to go through pain of questing in PvP zone to get Tickets.
My wife is 1000+CP and has never done a single day of PvP. Heck she is not even good enough to do anything hard. But she enjoyed collecting stuff amd housing and questing. And this weekend, she was furious over how she is being forced to do quest in a zone where she can't go 10 meters without being killed by random players. Low lvl/ max lvl all alike.
Last IC event you could get the tickets from Killing Bosses...what changed this year? Forcing those who can't quest in IC to buy it from crown store?

I can imagine why that lowbie wrote what he wrote. Not trying to justify his behaviour but we have to look past what he wrote and understand why he wrote.

Go do one of the dungeons????

The dungeons have a level requirement of 45

I soloed normal Spindleclutch 1 on a lvl 15 character (with 810 CP).

When I go on my tiny new nb and go to dungeon finder, WGT and Imperial City Prison are both locked, reading in red 'Unlocked at level 45'.

Spindelclutch is available at level 15, WGT and IP do not seem to be, that's the difference, not if you can solo it

Interesting. Have you tried just walking into the dungeon entrances? ICP you'll have to run 100 yards through danger, but WGT can be entered right near your base in the sewers.

SpacemanSpiff1

Jaraal wrote: »

Tinyfangs wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

Tinyfangs wrote: »

ThePedge wrote: »

UrbanMonk wrote: »

Its not about bein lowbie or less CP. Its directly ZoS fault, if people have to go through pain of questing in PvP zone to get Tickets.
My wife is 1000+CP and has never done a single day of PvP. Heck she is not even good enough to do anything hard. But she enjoyed collecting stuff amd housing and questing. And this weekend, she was furious over how she is being forced to do quest in a zone where she can't go 10 meters without being killed by random players. Low lvl/ max lvl all alike.
Last IC event you could get the tickets from Killing Bosses...what changed this year? Forcing those who can't quest in IC to buy it from crown store?

I can imagine why that lowbie wrote what he wrote. Not trying to justify his behaviour but we have to look past what he wrote and understand why he wrote.

Go do one of the dungeons????

The dungeons have a level requirement of 45

I soloed normal Spindleclutch 1 on a lvl 15 character (with 810 CP).

When I go on my tiny new nb and go to dungeon finder, WGT and Imperial City Prison are both locked, reading in red 'Unlocked at level 45'.

Spindelclutch is available at level 15, WGT and IP do not seem to be, that's the difference, not if you can solo it

Interesting. Have you tried just walking into the dungeon entrances? ICP you'll have to run 100 yards through danger, but WGT can be entered right near your base in the sewers.

or group with friends/guildmates and port in

Tinyfangs

Jaraal wrote: »

Tinyfangs wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

Tinyfangs wrote: »

ThePedge wrote: »

UrbanMonk wrote: »

Its not about bein lowbie or less CP. Its directly ZoS fault, if people have to go through pain of questing in PvP zone to get Tickets.
My wife is 1000+CP and has never done a single day of PvP. Heck she is not even good enough to do anything hard. But she enjoyed collecting stuff amd housing and questing. And this weekend, she was furious over how she is being forced to do quest in a zone where she can't go 10 meters without being killed by random players. Low lvl/ max lvl all alike.
Last IC event you could get the tickets from Killing Bosses...what changed this year? Forcing those who can't quest in IC to buy it from crown store?

I can imagine why that lowbie wrote what he wrote. Not trying to justify his behaviour but we have to look past what he wrote and understand why he wrote.

Go do one of the dungeons????

The dungeons have a level requirement of 45

I soloed normal Spindleclutch 1 on a lvl 15 character (with 810 CP).

When I go on my tiny new nb and go to dungeon finder, WGT and Imperial City Prison are both locked, reading in red 'Unlocked at level 45'.

Spindelclutch is available at level 15, WGT and IP do not seem to be, that's the difference, not if you can solo it

Interesting. Have you tried just walking into the dungeon entrances? ICP you'll have to run 100 yards through danger, but WGT can be entered right near your base in the sewers.

Issue is you are judging all this as an experienced ESO player. A new player, who may is levelling a few toons, has none to 45 yet, very possibly only sees the lock on it and never goes through the fine details you are mentioning. It's the problem that people often judge the world by only their narrow horizon. These players need to find a group first, for which they can not use the dungeon finder as they can not queue for it. Then they need to find out how to get to the dungeon entrance. I would go through all those steps, but I research anything and everything, and if the mood strikes me, I can play every day 20 hours and counting as I am financially that secure and fortunate. Many do not have this luxury, and for them, this event very possibly feels like going into the pvp area is the only option for them to get the tickets. If they then get slaughtered over and over by experienced pvpers, not giving them a breather, it's probably not fun/leaves a bad taste in their mouth, and I would think some might shoot of some very unfriendly whispers, for which I feel they should not be banned, as the game sort of leads them into that situation.

I don't have that issue, I pvp and am happily running amok in the city, and that including with my tinsy not at cap toons, but I certainly do feel for those not sharing my passion for that mad place.

UrbanMonk

Jaraal wrote: »

Tinyfangs wrote: »

ThePedge wrote: »

UrbanMonk wrote: »

Its not about bein lowbie or less CP. Its directly ZoS fault, if people have to go through pain of questing in PvP zone to get Tickets.
My wife is 1000+CP and has never done a single day of PvP. Heck she is not even good enough to do anything hard. But she enjoyed collecting stuff amd housing and questing. And this weekend, she was furious over how she is being forced to do quest in a zone where she can't go 10 meters without being killed by random players. Low lvl/ max lvl all alike.
Last IC event you could get the tickets from Killing Bosses...what changed this year? Forcing those who can't quest in IC to buy it from crown store?

I can imagine why that lowbie wrote what he wrote. Not trying to justify his behaviour but we have to look past what he wrote and understand why he wrote.

Go do one of the dungeons????

The dungeons have a level requirement of 45

I soloed normal Spindleclutch 1 on a lvl 15 character (with 810 CP).

I duoed nSpindle with NoCP when the game was barely 2 months old, amd we were lvl12 and 17, using our Pew pew Bow attacks, took us over 3 hours, but we did it....

Khazek

This got me thinking about the other day when I saw a gang of 4-5 people fighting one of the patrol bosses. I peeked around a corner, popped Ravenous Goliath and went in when the boss had around 10% hp left. Everyone died and the whispers came rolling in like a big toxic tsunami and I loved everything about it.

SeaGtGruff

Why did you wait until the boss was down to 10% health? Why not go in sooner? I mean, if you're that awesome, surely you could have taken out the boss by yourself while he was still over 50% health, plus all 10 players before they'd been worn down from fighting the boss?

Linaleah

Jensmom wrote: »

To all of you who are saying run WGT...you don't get pages that way and boxes and the like. There are benefits (sadly) to running the events as they are intended. Sops to non-pvp players are insulting.

but.. you DO. I've gotten anywhere from 1 to 5 purple boxes per run (on normal, I should specify). I've actualy gotten NO boxes when doing dailies in IC, unless I happened to run into a boss getting killed and got a hit in. I personaly found dungeons to be a better source, if only because you are not risking getting ganked before you had a chance to loot.

Milchbart

UrbanMonk wrote: »

Its not about bein lowbie or less CP. Its directly ZoS fault, if people have to go through pain of questing in PvP zone to get Tickets.
My wife is 1000+CP and has never done a single day of PvP. Heck she is not even good enough to do anything hard. But she enjoyed collecting stuff amd housing and questing. And this weekend, she was furious over how she is being forced to do quest in a zone where she can't go 10 meters without being killed by random players. Low lvl/ max lvl all alike.
Last IC event you could get the tickets from Killing Bosses...what changed this year? Forcing those who can't quest in IC to buy it from crown store?


2. Do Arena district daily without jumping down

How?
Explain please.

Linaleah

Milchbart wrote: »

UrbanMonk wrote: »

Its not about bein lowbie or less CP. Its directly ZoS fault, if people have to go through pain of questing in PvP zone to get Tickets.
My wife is 1000+CP and has never done a single day of PvP. Heck she is not even good enough to do anything hard. But she enjoyed collecting stuff amd housing and questing. And this weekend, she was furious over how she is being forced to do quest in a zone where she can't go 10 meters without being killed by random players. Low lvl/ max lvl all alike.
Last IC event you could get the tickets from Killing Bosses...what changed this year? Forcing those who can't quest in IC to buy it from crown store?


2. Do Arena district daily without jumping down

How?
Explain please.

for pact and AD at least (not 100% sure about DC), there are groups of mobs guarding prisoners within range of the platform that you arrive on. if you get just to the edge, you are able to hit them and free those prisoners without jumping down. it takes conciderably longer as you have to keep waiting for the same group of prisoners to respawn, but its possible.

however.. I have encountered gankers that have adopted to it and stay in stealth by those platforms, specifically waiting for questers to get in range, to attack them, even while they are still on top of the platform and presumably have no tel var on them at all (most don't) and are certainly not looking for a fight. so you also have to be ready to roll back and heal up the moment they attack you or you may die before freeing prisoners counts towards your quest progression.

also... and I'm not sure just how intended this is, but its been going on for years. if you are close enough to prisoners being freed, even if you weren't the one attacking the mobs guarding them - it still counts. even if those mobs were killed by an enemy faction player. all of the other quests require some sort of interaction with objects (or looting bodies) down in city proper, but arena quest allows progress without having to touch anything, so with a little bit of patience you can complete it and just take the same hatch down that you used to come up.

BomblePants

For the guys who say this is partly ZOS fault..... could you just confirm for me that it’s partly ZOS fault that someone is so immature, so ridiculous and such an idiot that they would come out with wishing death on another human being... all over getting killed in a video game? Could you just confirm that for me please?

Eraldus

>Randomly attacks and kill a low level player mind his business
>Gets surprised at said player whispering back

He shouldn't have gone that far, but honestly, what else would you expect? Maybe that wasn't the first time he got attacked, so he probably had a breakdown or something.

*** like this is why I avoid Cyrodiil and PVP in general, unless it's just for fun with a friend... Too much toxicity.

ZOS should just make so that killing players below your level/CP gets you nothing in return.

WreckfulAbandon

The way moderation has been around here lately (always?) I won't say what should happen to ppl who say things like that. There's a reason I don't hear normal people say stuff like that in person. People have been thoroughly thrashed for less.

That statement about OP's family should be ban-worthy. And my ignore list is empty btw, been playing since 2014, definitely not a special snowflake here.

Minyassa

If you're in Cyrodiil or IC you should always expect to get killed. And if you leave yourself in online mode in Cyrodiil or IC you should always expect to get hate whispers. If you don't wanna get killed, don't go in Cyrodiil or IC. And if you don't want hate whispers, put yourself in offline mode.

geonsocal

one of the best things about eso is the ability to communicate so easily...one of the worst things about eso is the ability to communicate so easily...

zvavi

Today I have whispered 2 people in IC and talked with them for quite a while each, no salt involved, tbh I need to l2p on the PvP side of things. Had nice talks.