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FREE CHAPTERS WITH GREYMORE!

Technopium
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So... this sucks for those who just bought it... sorry guys.
But also if you want to upgrade on the PS4, it's not working. not showing up in the description.
This is ONLY for NEW players I guess... the loyal ones like us get shafted.... thanks Zenimax....
Way to keep you loyal fan base happy...
So now I can't even upgrade to Greymore to get those chapters on PS4.


I am trying to upgrade to get the free Chapters that come with GREYMORE you are offering, but the Upgrade on PS4 does not mention the CHAPTERS: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/joinus?utm_source=4758915&utm_medium=271920529&utm_campaign=24046460&utm_creative=131443084
  • Pinja
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    Hmm?
    Are you talking about the bundle that comes with the standalone Graymoor. Or did they just make Graymoor free on Ps4?
    It's been a thing where the old chapters get downgraded to a dlc after the newest chapter release.
    Edited by Pinja on August 20, 2020 8:58PM
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  • Technopium
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    Pinja wrote: »
    Hmm?
    Are you talking about the bundle that comes with the standalone Graymoor. Or did they just make Graymoor free on Ps4?
    It's been a thing where the old chapters get downgraded to a dlc after the newest chapter release.

    They are offering 3 chapters for free when you buy Greymore... but only to new players. not to those who Upgrade to grey more.

  • TheGreatBlackBear
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    It's always been like that though. Whenever you buy the latest chapter you get the previous ones bundled in as well.
  • Technopium
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    It's always been like that though. Whenever you buy the latest chapter you get the previous ones bundled in as well.

    But when I got to Upgrade to Greymoor... on the PS4, it doesn't mention the other chapters in the description.
    So I am scared of Upgrading to Greymore for 55$ and not get the other chapters.

    But a NEW player can get Greymoor for 80$ and ALSO get all the chapters.

    So I don't know how to do it as a PS4 player who owns the BASE game.

  • Jinxxy85
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    Yes it's always been that way, you're upgrading your account to receive the latest expansion. The bundle deal with everything is for new people and designed to entice them in with all the bonus content. I dare say it's expected that if you're upgrading you've probably purchased some of the previous dlc anyway (not saying I agree with that idea though).

    So yes sadly either you need to upgrade to Greymoor and purchase the other dlcs separately or can you purchase the complete bundle on PS4? I haven't looked much as I bought Greymoor on release, but I thought you could still purchase the complete package regardless of what you already owned.
  • trackdemon5512
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    Technopium wrote: »
    It's always been like that though. Whenever you buy the latest chapter you get the previous ones bundled in as well.

    But when I got to Upgrade to Greymoor... on the PS4, it doesn't mention the other chapters in the description.
    So I am scared of Upgrading to Greymore for 55$ and not get the other chapters.

    But a NEW player can get Greymoor for 80$ and ALSO get all the chapters.

    So I don't know how to do it as a PS4 player who owns the BASE game.

    You ONLY get the additional chapters if you’re purchasing the full versions and not the upgrades.

    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/57527

    Upgrades are solely the newest chapter with the collectors edition adding certain DLC content but not the previous 3 chapters.

    You can purchase the full version and it will not change anything as your save data is tied to the account and not the media format (disc or digital) as other games on PS4 are.
    Edited by trackdemon5512 on August 20, 2020 10:19PM
  • bearbelly
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    The Upgrade versions are just the Greymoor chapter. (you must already have at least the base game.)
    This is for the people who only want Greymoor.

    If you want the other chapters then you don't want the Upgrade versions.

    The other versions are for Greymoor AND the earlier chapters (or whichever of the earlier chapters are not already on your account. So if you already have base game + Morrowind, for example, you'd get Greymoor, Summerset and Elsweyr.)


    Edited by bearbelly on August 20, 2020 10:53PM
  • Tranquilizer
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    Technopium wrote: »
    Pinja wrote: »
    Hmm?
    Are you talking about the bundle that comes with the standalone Graymoor. Or did they just make Graymoor free on Ps4?
    It's been a thing where the old chapters get downgraded to a dlc after the newest chapter release.

    They are offering 3 chapters for free when you buy Greymore... but only to new players. not to those who Upgrade to grey more.

    Are you sure ? Last year I bought the standard version of Elsweyr (Which contained Vvardenfell and Summerset) for my existing second account. If ZOS didn't change the way the standard version works then you should be able to upgrade your account with the standard version and get all the other chapters.
  • bearbelly
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    Technopium wrote: »
    Pinja wrote: »
    Hmm?
    Are you talking about the bundle that comes with the standalone Graymoor. Or did they just make Graymoor free on Ps4?
    It's been a thing where the old chapters get downgraded to a dlc after the newest chapter release.

    They are offering 3 chapters for free when you buy Greymore... but only to new players. not to those who Upgrade to grey more.

    Are you sure ? Last year I bought the standard version of Elsweyr (Which contained Vvardenfell and Summerset) for my existing second account. If ZOS didn't change the way the standard version works then you should be able to upgrade your account with the standard version and get all the other chapters.

    This is correct.
    They haven't changed anything.
  • Technopium
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    bearbelly wrote: »
    Technopium wrote: »
    Pinja wrote: »
    Hmm?
    Are you talking about the bundle that comes with the standalone Graymoor. Or did they just make Graymoor free on Ps4?
    It's been a thing where the old chapters get downgraded to a dlc after the newest chapter release.

    They are offering 3 chapters for free when you buy Greymore... but only to new players. not to those who Upgrade to grey more.

    Are you sure ? Last year I bought the standard version of Elsweyr (Which contained Vvardenfell and Summerset) for my existing second account. If ZOS didn't change the way the standard version works then you should be able to upgrade your account with the standard version and get all the other chapters.

    This is correct.
    They haven't changed anything.

    NOPE... I Bought Greymoor and did NOT get ELSWYR....

  • Technopium
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    bearbelly wrote: »
    Technopium wrote: »
    Pinja wrote: »
    Hmm?
    Are you talking about the bundle that comes with the standalone Graymoor. Or did they just make Graymoor free on Ps4?
    It's been a thing where the old chapters get downgraded to a dlc after the newest chapter release.

    They are offering 3 chapters for free when you buy Greymore... but only to new players. not to those who Upgrade to grey more.

    Are you sure ? Last year I bought the standard version of Elsweyr (Which contained Vvardenfell and Summerset) for my existing second account. If ZOS didn't change the way the standard version works then you should be able to upgrade your account with the standard version and get all the other chapters.

    This is correct.
    They haven't changed anything.


    So why say it's FREE or INCLUDED... when in reality you have to pay MORE to get the Basegame over and over again.. so stupid this format... really dumb I find and honestly its making me want to give up on this game, it's feeling outdated anyways...

    Thanks for the info everyone.
  • Razzledazzle_dar
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    I don't know ALL the details, but what I'm certain of is when a new CHAPTER is released, the previous year's chapter is downgraded to dlc status. I don't know how it works if you're trying to get Greymoor AND have access to previous content without a sub, but if you are subbed you get access to ALL dlc while subbed. So, if you were a plus member, you would get all previous "Chapters" (now dlc) and would only have to purchase Greymoor.
    Edited by Razzledazzle_dar on August 21, 2020 5:40AM
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  • Razzledazzle_dar
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    (Disregard this comment, left in error)
    Edited by Razzledazzle_dar on August 21, 2020 5:40AM
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  • JKorr
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    Technopium wrote: »
    bearbelly wrote: »
    Technopium wrote: »
    Pinja wrote: »
    Hmm?
    Are you talking about the bundle that comes with the standalone Graymoor. Or did they just make Graymoor free on Ps4?
    It's been a thing where the old chapters get downgraded to a dlc after the newest chapter release.

    They are offering 3 chapters for free when you buy Greymore... but only to new players. not to those who Upgrade to grey more.

    Are you sure ? Last year I bought the standard version of Elsweyr (Which contained Vvardenfell and Summerset) for my existing second account. If ZOS didn't change the way the standard version works then you should be able to upgrade your account with the standard version and get all the other chapters.

    This is correct.
    They haven't changed anything.


    So why say it's FREE or INCLUDED... when in reality you have to pay MORE to get the Basegame over and over again.. so stupid this format... really dumb I find and honestly its making me want to give up on this game, it's feeling outdated anyways...

    Thanks for the info everyone.

    I probably need to get to sleep, but....why on Nirn would you want to buy the base game over and over, when you can either buy the new chapter as soon as its released, or wait a year and have it as dlc that can be bought with crowns?

    I bought the base game once. I bought, with crowns from my sub, all the dlcs I was interested in, before chapters. I bought all the chapters as soon as they were available, because I enjoy the game and don't want to wait a year until they release the new content as dlc. Unless I want to make separate accounts, there is no reason for me to buy the base game again. Much cheaper to simply buy the chapter/upgrade.
  • Tranquilizer
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    Technopium wrote: »
    bearbelly wrote: »
    Technopium wrote: »
    Pinja wrote: »
    Hmm?
    Are you talking about the bundle that comes with the standalone Graymoor. Or did they just make Graymoor free on Ps4?
    It's been a thing where the old chapters get downgraded to a dlc after the newest chapter release.

    They are offering 3 chapters for free when you buy Greymore... but only to new players. not to those who Upgrade to grey more.

    Are you sure ? Last year I bought the standard version of Elsweyr (Which contained Vvardenfell and Summerset) for my existing second account. If ZOS didn't change the way the standard version works then you should be able to upgrade your account with the standard version and get all the other chapters.

    This is correct.
    They haven't changed anything.

    NOPE... I Bought Greymoor and did NOT get ELSWYR....

    Then maybe you bought the wrong edition ?

    There are 2 editions:

    1. The upgrade edition, only contains the newest chapter and requires an existing account.
    2. The standard edition, contains the base game, the actual chapter and all previous chapters. Can be used to create a new account, but can also be used to upgrade an existing account.

    For the standard edition: I bought it directly from the ESO store while logged in with my second account credentials. Not sure if it works if you buy from third party sites.
  • bearbelly
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    Technopium wrote: »
    bearbelly wrote: »
    Technopium wrote: »
    Pinja wrote: »
    Hmm?
    Are you talking about the bundle that comes with the standalone Graymoor. Or did they just make Graymoor free on Ps4?
    It's been a thing where the old chapters get downgraded to a dlc after the newest chapter release.

    They are offering 3 chapters for free when you buy Greymore... but only to new players. not to those who Upgrade to grey more.

    Are you sure ? Last year I bought the standard version of Elsweyr (Which contained Vvardenfell and Summerset) for my existing second account. If ZOS didn't change the way the standard version works then you should be able to upgrade your account with the standard version and get all the other chapters.

    This is correct.
    They haven't changed anything.

    NOPE... I Bought Greymoor and did NOT get ELSWYR....

    Your OP makes it sound like you had not made a purchase yet, and then you had multiple people explain the different versions to you.
    It was stated, repeatedly, that the upgrade versions (the versions with "upgrade" in the title -- digital collector's edition upgrade or digital upgrade) only grant the Greymoor chapter.

    I even bolded the info that YOU don't want one of the the upgrade versions, because you also want the other chapters.

    Sounds like you went ahead and purchased one of the upgrade versions.

    And it doesn't say anywhere in any of those descriptions that you linked to that access to the earlier chapters is free.
    When it says, "includes access to," it's stating that the previous chapters are part of the purchase of that version, hence the greater price compared to the upgrade versions.

    Edited by bearbelly on August 21, 2020 8:43AM
  • Vildebill
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    So you mean that when I bought Greymoor and already had the other chapters, I got Greyless? :worried:
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  • MerguezMan
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    Wait... checking xbox store... base prices, not considering timed discounts.

    ESO base game = 20 € (includes Morrowind upgrade)
    ESO Greymoor = 70€ (includes Morrowind, Summerset, Elsweyr and Greymoor)

    Greymoor upgrade = 40€ (does NOT include previous chapters)
    1 chapter = 3500 crowns = roughly 25€

    So...

    2 chapters + Greymoor upgrade = 90€

    Which means if you skipped the previous 2 years chapters and want the whole thing now, you'd better rebuy the base game in the last edition than buy upgrades. Or wait a discount.

    NB: that is without factoring ESO+ monthly sub, not everyone is willing to pay every month.

    Why Summerset and Elsweyr are not included in base edition or an upgrade package is indeed a legit question.
    Also, 1 region DLC costing more than the base game having 15 regions is kind of weird for price/content ratio.
    Edited by MerguezMan on August 21, 2020 10:25AM
  • Technopium
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    [quote="
    Why Summerset and Elsweyr are not included in base edition or an upgrade package is indeed a legit question.
    Also, 1 region DLC costing more than the base game having 15 regions is kind of weird for price/content ratio.[/quote]


    this is what I mean... the say its free when you buy the base game... but it's not, since the base is is more expensive.
    so you ARE paying for them... it's just weird advertising when they say "Free, or INCLUDED"... it's not.
    People have to pay extra to get them...

    But yet when you upgrade, because you dont need the base game, they dont include it?
    It seem like a scam to me to offer that or to even advertise it as they are right now.

    If I knew, I would have not upgraded... I would have got the base game (AGAIN) which comes with all the chapters...

    They really messed up a lot of people, and a lot of new players who don't know how all these chapters/dlc/zones/ etc work...
    anyways, whatever, they do what they do I guess and people fall for it... just wasted my Money.
  • jircris11
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    Technopium wrote: »
    Pinja wrote: »
    Hmm?
    Are you talking about the bundle that comes with the standalone Graymoor. Or did they just make Graymoor free on Ps4?
    It's been a thing where the old chapters get downgraded to a dlc after the newest chapter release.

    They are offering 3 chapters for free when you buy Greymore... but only to new players. not to those who Upgrade to grey more.

    Existing members get a rather steep discount. Upgrade is 20-40 usd off. Besides they assume existing members have the other chapters.
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  • trackdemon5512
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    - Base Game ~ $10 to $20 US
    - Greymoor Upgrade (No Base Game Included = $40 US
    - Greymoor Full Edition = $60 US

    - Costs of Summerset, Morrowind, and Elsweyr in Crowns = 3500 crowns or about $30 US apiece

    So buy the full version of Greymoor with the Base Game (buy it over again if you missed any of the previous chapters to own) for $60 US,

    OR

    Buy the upgrade and access the previous DLCs with ESO+ for $15 US a Month,

    OR

    Buy the upgrade and spend ~$90 US in crowns in addition to $40 US for the update

    It’s pretty clear which deal is the best for your buck.
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