(Poll) How much do you parse?

Grandchamp1989

Hi everybody

I see all this big fancy numbers all of the time (especially on youtube) of people pulling 80-90-100k
And while amazing that's NOT the reality I see in my dungeons from regular people lol.

So I've made an anonymous poll so people can be truthful about what people parse.
Most of us are men and we've been known too stretch the truth on certain things just a tiny bit throughout history, in favor of a little ego boost lol XD
And I kinda don't want this thread to turn into a [snip] of the same 3 people who push high numbers lolol

For the record I'm NOT talking about your one time best parse ever on a dummy, I'm talking about your average, the performance you can comfortably deliver.

So lets keep this clean, helpful and truthful

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Grandchamp1989

Poll up

Ackwalan

Just like fishing, the first liar doesn't stand a chance.

Katheriah

Grandchamp1989 wrote: »

I see all this big fancy numbers all of the time (especially on youtube) of people pulling 80-90-100k
And while amazing that's NOT the reality I see in my dungeons from regular people lol.

I think most of them don't pug. I know I don't have the patience for that.

Pinja

Thing some people don't know about parses, you have to use the Iron Atronach dummy in order to get it right.

zvavi

I mean, we are comparing mains right? I also assume we are comparing best setup, while I don't get close to 90k, I do comfortably sit above 80k, even using pfg and not siroria. But I usually parse to compare setups and skills... Or on the search of that one parse without lag.

Hippie4927

I don't care if people know how I voted..............I don't parse. As long as I can kill stuff, including many world bosses, that's good enough for me. I don't do trials so I don't get any flak about my damage.

W0lf_z13

highest has been 88k, sit normally around 84-86k though (without thrassian )

BeamsForDemacia

i guess u mean parses on the iron/raid dummy without thrassian but that should be made clear

zvavi

BeamsForDemacia wrote: »

i guess u mean parses on the iron/raid dummy without thrassian but that should be made clear

No Therassian for me tyvm nor b4b either. I don't even own Greymoor.

Also I also want to add that trial dummy is there to compare to trials not dungeons, you get much more support in trials (especially compared to the average pug, even in vet dlc you sometimes don't even have major breach with 2 mag dds in group).

Then again, when boss is stationary, it is not rare to see over 200k dps in premade group.

ketsparrowhawk

On a 6mil dummy with my normal dungeon loadout.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

This patch on my mDK on a trial dummy, I am right around 90k on average, with parses that flirt with 95k when I don't have any issues (either my fingers or performance) and decent crit RNG. My Stamplar was right around 95k last patch, but havent parsed with him at all this patch. My guild required a 90k parse to be top tier this patch, which I got on launch day pretty fast after making a few minor adjustments. I didnt realize for like an hour that Vamp increased your ulti cost, so I kept messing up and trying to cast an ult too soon. Haha

80k is really not hard to achieve on a lot of classes, assuming you have BIS gear, and a decent LA/Second ratio (.8-.85). If you want to break 90k, you need a LA ratio north of .9 on most classes in the current meta from my experience, and your rotation needs to be pretty much error free. The difference between 80-90k is much bigger than the difference between 70-80k.

Havent tried parsing with stranglers. I almost made a batch of 20 3 mil dummies for my house, you know, for science, but then I read the PTS patch notes...

This is of course, all on a trial dummy, which is the most objective thing to discuss. Real world fights are going to be all over the map. There are real world boss fights that 40-50k is probably all you can expect, and their are fights like the mage HM where you can do total fight DPS of like 150k. In a good group on your stack and burn bosses, you shouldnt be more than 5-10k off your trial dummy parse.

W0lf_z13

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

This patch on my mDK on a trial dummy, I am right around 90k on average, with parses that flirt with 95k when I don't have any issues (either my fingers or performance) and decent crit RNG. My Stamplar was right around 95k last patch, but havent parsed with him at all this patch. My guild required a 90k parse to be top tier this patch, which I got on launch day pretty fast after making a few minor adjustments. I didnt realize for like an hour that Vamp increased your ulti cost, so I kept messing up and trying to cast an ult too soon. Haha

80k is really not hard to achieve on a lot of classes, assuming you have BIS gear, and a decent LA/Second ratio (.8-.85). If you want to break 90k, you need a LA ratio north of .9 on most classes in the current meta from my experience, and your rotation needs to be pretty much error free. The difference between 80-90k is much bigger than the difference between 70-80k.

Havent tried parsing with stranglers. I almost made a batch of 20 3 mil dummies for my house, you know, for science, but then I read the PTS patch notes...

been trying to hit 90k+ on my mdk but i just cant seem to break from the 86k mark ( other than the 1 time i hit 88k )

Oreyn_Bearclaw

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

This patch on my mDK on a trial dummy, I am right around 90k on average, with parses that flirt with 95k when I don't have any issues (either my fingers or performance) and decent crit RNG. My Stamplar was right around 95k last patch, but havent parsed with him at all this patch. My guild required a 90k parse to be top tier this patch, which I got on launch day pretty fast after making a few minor adjustments. I didnt realize for like an hour that Vamp increased your ulti cost, so I kept messing up and trying to cast an ult too soon. Haha

80k is really not hard to achieve on a lot of classes, assuming you have BIS gear, and a decent LA/Second ratio (.8-.85). If you want to break 90k, you need a LA ratio north of .9 on most classes in the current meta from my experience, and your rotation needs to be pretty much error free. The difference between 80-90k is much bigger than the difference between 70-80k.

Havent tried parsing with stranglers. I almost made a batch of 20 3 mil dummies for my house, you know, for science, but then I read the PTS patch notes...

been trying to hit 90k+ on my mdk but i just cant seem to break from the 86k mark ( other than the 1 time i hit 88k )

@W0lf_z13

First question would be, what is your LA/Sec Ratio. The difference between 86-90k could be as simple as the pace of your rotation. This patch, it was nothing groundbreaking. Only real changes from last patch were to drop VAS staff for 5 piece siroria front bar (paired with elf bane), using the vamp spammable, and I did go to Maw for the parse, but I also think Zaan and ilambris will be with in a few hundred DPS. Really like ilambris in actual content this patch on mDK (if running elf bane). I also stopped bash canceling, because its more trouble than its worth now (truthfully, I think it's always been more trouble than its worth).

Another thing that is helpful, not quite sure how you handle ultimates, but the best I have found is to go Standard, Meteor, Meteor, and Standard (which you hold until execute). 3 bloodthirsty is also important if trying to min/max a parse. That is more DPS than 3 standards, which is what you can also do, but the difference is a couple K. Having a standard for execute really helps when paired with bloodthirsty.

My rotation is pretty straight forward. Talons is the centerpiece. Talons, 8 skills, talons , 8 skills. I always cast Elemental blockade, trap, embers and engulfing in order (back bar). I opt for blockade over unstable wall. The later is more damage, but makes the rotation more complicated. I also manage eruption dynamical on the back bar. On the front bar, I manage FOO and Scalding Rune, dynamically (never recast FOO early). I opt for inner light over orbs, because it gave me sustain issues on a dummy. I do usually run orbs in actual content. Talons is always every ninth skill, otherwise, i am using the vamp spam. No real changes in execute, other than to perhaps get a little spammy right at the end. No reason to cast a DOT that wont run its full course. I am able to sustain this with just max magic food (no regen), but the purple bi-stat food (health magic)is what I use in actual content. Truthfully, very little difference between the two. You shouldnt need regen food.

goldCoaster

I don't know. I have all those stupid numbers turned off.

Suna_Ye_Sunnabe

Is this exclusively the iron atro? Because I vastly prefer the 3 mil. Improving my parses up to 51k on the 3 mil is what helped me hit much harder in all real time content scenarios, while avoiding parse cheese.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

I don't. I only tank in group content.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

goldCoaster wrote: »

I don't know. I have all those stupid numbers turned off.

You know the parse result is put right in your chat window, yes? You can parse without the numbers.

goldCoaster

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

goldCoaster wrote: »

I don't know. I have all those stupid numbers turned off.

You know the parse result is put right in your chat window, yes? You can parse without the numbers.

I see. I don't think that occurs on Ps4. I've never seen the chat window start displaying numbers.

Syldras

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

You know the parse result is put right in your chat window, yes? You can parse without the numbers.

You're talking about the use of training dummies, right? Otherwise, during normal fights, there'll be no numbers. Unless you can enable that somewhere in the settings.

MistyRonin

goldCoaster wrote: »

I don't know. I have all those stupid numbers turned off.

Pretty much that. But apparently is enough to do most dungeons solo. Never understood the obsession for the numbers.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

goldCoaster wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

goldCoaster wrote: »

I don't know. I have all those stupid numbers turned off.

You know the parse result is put right in your chat window, yes? You can parse without the numbers.

I see. I don't think that occurs on Ps4. I've never seen the chat window start displaying numbers.

Hmm. Odd if it doesn't show anywhere as that would make the dummy 100% useless on PS4.

I couldn't tell you any more as I haven't played on a console for a few years now.

goldCoaster

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

goldCoaster wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

goldCoaster wrote: »

I don't know. I have all those stupid numbers turned off.

You know the parse result is put right in your chat window, yes? You can parse without the numbers.

I see. I don't think that occurs on Ps4. I've never seen the chat window start displaying numbers.

Hmm. Odd if it doesn't show anywhere as that would make the dummy 100% useless on PS4.

I couldn't tell you any more as I haven't played on a console for a few years now.

I see. I misunderstood.

I have all combat numbers turned off. I did not realize the topic was referring to the training dummy.

Syldras

MistyRonin wrote: »

Pretty much that. But apparently is enough to do most dungeons solo. Never understood the obsession for the numbers.

Same here. I solo most things, it works fine, I don't care for more.

BomblePants

It definitely does show on the PS4 chat window.... I play on PS4... so....

emilyhyoyeon

Suna_Ye_Sunnabe wrote: »

Is this exclusively the iron atro? Because I vastly prefer the 3 mil. Improving my parses up to 51k on the 3 mil is what helped me hit much harder in all real time content scenarios, while avoiding parse cheese.

I'm kind of the same way

Sylvermynx

Hippie4927 wrote: »

I don't care if people know how I voted..............I don't parse. As long as I can kill stuff, including many world bosses, that's good enough for me. I don't do trials so I don't get any flak about my damage.

Makes two of us....

volkeswagon

I honestly don't know how people get 50 plus. I can't get above 15k on a good day

Pauwer

I have no idea, i'm on ps4 and no interest in housing. Btw, why are the housing items from antiquities bound? I'd like to sell 'em. Now i'm like, a lead, cool, oh, it's furniture, yyhhhh

AliasRed

I parse the parcel, but only when invited to birthday parties

Dark_Lord_Kuro

goldCoaster wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

goldCoaster wrote: »

I don't know. I have all those stupid numbers turned off.

You know the parse result is put right in your chat window, yes? You can parse without the numbers.

I see. I don't think that occurs on Ps4. I've never seen the chat window start displaying numbers.

Yes it does
It may not be by default?