Many of the rewards from previous years have been removed from Plunder Skulls to increase your chances of getting the newer stuff, but don't fear! The Impresario sells a grab bag for 2 Event Tickets each that contain one random component that you have yet to unlock for these bygone treasures. The item fragments included in this grab bag include:
Spectre Mask
Hollowjack Motif
Apple-Bobbing Cauldron
Skeletal Marionette
Taleof2Cities wrote: »Hollowjack is super cheap in the Guild Stores from generous prior Events flooding the game with motif chapters, @Zulera301.
No player should have a problem obtaining it ... the vast majority of players will support the motif being converted to tickets.
redgreensunset wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »Hollowjack is super cheap in the Guild Stores from generous prior Events flooding the game with motif chapters, @Zulera301.
No player should have a problem obtaining it ... the vast majority of players will support the motif being converted to tickets.
It obviously isn't going to remain super cheap as the source of future motifs have just dried up to a trickle. And I guess I'm that teeny, tiny minority then.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »redgreensunset wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »Hollowjack is super cheap in the Guild Stores from generous prior Events flooding the game with motif chapters, @Zulera301.
No player should have a problem obtaining it ... the vast majority of players will support the motif being converted to tickets.
It obviously isn't going to remain super cheap as the source of future motifs have just dried up to a trickle. And I guess I'm that teeny, tiny minority then.
I don't think to that extreme, @redgreensunset ... remember that motif pages will also randomly drop with plunder skulls.
And we all know plunder skulls can drop every 5 minutes if a player is keenly killing bosses while watching the clock.
redgreensunset wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »redgreensunset wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »Hollowjack is super cheap in the Guild Stores from generous prior Events flooding the game with motif chapters, @Zulera301.
No player should have a problem obtaining it ... the vast majority of players will support the motif being converted to tickets.
It obviously isn't going to remain super cheap as the source of future motifs have just dried up to a trickle. And I guess I'm that teeny, tiny minority then.
I don't think to that extreme, @redgreensunset ... remember that motif pages will also randomly drop with plunder skulls.
And we all know plunder skulls can drop every 5 minutes if a player is keenly killing bosses while watching the clock.
That depends greatly on how you read those patch notes, because to me it sounds like they won't be dropping from plunder skulls anymore. But as per usual ZOS is a whole lot less than clear in their wording.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »redgreensunset wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »redgreensunset wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »Hollowjack is super cheap in the Guild Stores from generous prior Events flooding the game with motif chapters, @Zulera301.
No player should have a problem obtaining it ... the vast majority of players will support the motif being converted to tickets.
It obviously isn't going to remain super cheap as the source of future motifs have just dried up to a trickle. And I guess I'm that teeny, tiny minority then.
I don't think to that extreme, @redgreensunset ... remember that motif pages will also randomly drop with plunder skulls.
And we all know plunder skulls can drop every 5 minutes if a player is keenly killing bosses while watching the clock.
That depends greatly on how you read those patch notes, because to me it sounds like they won't be dropping from plunder skulls anymore. But as per usual ZOS is a whole lot less than clear in their wording.
Yeah, I see that too.
Regardless, as someone who already had the full motif the first year of the event, it's time to retire Hollowjack to tickets.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »Hollowjack is super cheap in the Guild Stores from generous prior Events flooding the game with motif chapters, @Zulera301.
No player should have a problem obtaining it ... the vast majority of players will support the motif being converted to tickets.
redgreensunset wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »redgreensunset wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »redgreensunset wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »Hollowjack is super cheap in the Guild Stores from generous prior Events flooding the game with motif chapters, @Zulera301.
No player should have a problem obtaining it ... the vast majority of players will support the motif being converted to tickets.
It obviously isn't going to remain super cheap as the source of future motifs have just dried up to a trickle. And I guess I'm that teeny, tiny minority then.
I don't think to that extreme, @redgreensunset ... remember that motif pages will also randomly drop with plunder skulls.
And we all know plunder skulls can drop every 5 minutes if a player is keenly killing bosses while watching the clock.
That depends greatly on how you read those patch notes, because to me it sounds like they won't be dropping from plunder skulls anymore. But as per usual ZOS is a whole lot less than clear in their wording.
Yeah, I see that too.
Regardless, as someone who already had the full motif the first year of the event, it's time to retire Hollowjack to tickets.
By that logic we should retire draugr and all the other old motifs that long term players also have because why keep them around when old players already have them. We can put them in the crown store instead.
redgreensunset wrote: »But as per usual ZOS is a whole lot less than clear in their wording.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »redgreensunset wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »redgreensunset wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »redgreensunset wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »Hollowjack is super cheap in the Guild Stores from generous prior Events flooding the game with motif chapters, @Zulera301.
No player should have a problem obtaining it ... the vast majority of players will support the motif being converted to tickets.
It obviously isn't going to remain super cheap as the source of future motifs have just dried up to a trickle. And I guess I'm that teeny, tiny minority then.
I don't think to that extreme, @redgreensunset ... remember that motif pages will also randomly drop with plunder skulls.
And we all know plunder skulls can drop every 5 minutes if a player is keenly killing bosses while watching the clock.
That depends greatly on how you read those patch notes, because to me it sounds like they won't be dropping from plunder skulls anymore. But as per usual ZOS is a whole lot less than clear in their wording.
Yeah, I see that too.
Regardless, as someone who already had the full motif the first year of the event, it's time to retire Hollowjack to tickets.
By that logic we should retire draugr and all the other old motifs that long term players also have because why keep them around when old players already have them. We can put them in the crown store instead.
The vast majority of players don’t buy tickets with crowns, @redgreensunset ... unless you have in-game data from ZOS that says otherwise??
Most players accumulate tickets by doing the event activities.
Which they can then purchase Hollowjack pages with in-game (without using IRL money ... though they can get the full motif in the Crown Store if they wish).
Pages will still be available in guild stores too.
redgreensunset wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »redgreensunset wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »redgreensunset wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »redgreensunset wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »Hollowjack is super cheap in the Guild Stores from generous prior Events flooding the game with motif chapters, @Zulera301.
No player should have a problem obtaining it ... the vast majority of players will support the motif being converted to tickets.
It obviously isn't going to remain super cheap as the source of future motifs have just dried up to a trickle. And I guess I'm that teeny, tiny minority then.
I don't think to that extreme, @redgreensunset ... remember that motif pages will also randomly drop with plunder skulls.
And we all know plunder skulls can drop every 5 minutes if a player is keenly killing bosses while watching the clock.
That depends greatly on how you read those patch notes, because to me it sounds like they won't be dropping from plunder skulls anymore. But as per usual ZOS is a whole lot less than clear in their wording.
Yeah, I see that too.
Regardless, as someone who already had the full motif the first year of the event, it's time to retire Hollowjack to tickets.
By that logic we should retire draugr and all the other old motifs that long term players also have because why keep them around when old players already have them. We can put them in the crown store instead.
The vast majority of players don’t buy tickets with crowns, @redgreensunset ... unless you have in-game data from ZOS that says otherwise??
Most players accumulate tickets by doing the event activities.
Which they can then purchase Hollowjack pages with in-game (without using IRL money ... though they can get the full motif in the Crown Store if they wish).
Pages will still be available in guild stores too.
That assumes that there's nothing else they want during Witch's Festival.
Also pages will not keep on existing in guild stores. Finally there's an achievement connected to getting the full motif, which iirc ties into the overarching event achievement. At least that one needs to be retired and the other one modified if they're going to make it that much harder and costly to get the motif.
Like you seem to be assuming that there'll be infinite supply of this one at guild stores forever when supply will dry up and then be completely gone after a while.
False.Taleof2Cities wrote: »Old items are "retired" in the game all the time:
No, they are just moved to his assistant's vendor inventory, for a lower price. None of them are unobtainable.Taleof2Cities wrote: »- Such as the rotating stock of gold furnishing plans that Rolis Hlaalu (master writ vendor) has.
That is a terrible analogy, since the Glass motif was actually made easier. We went from a grindy system of fragments that make chapters (with the help of an expensive glue ingredient) to the full book for a modest sum of vouchers.Taleof2Cities wrote: »- Or, being able to create Glass motif pages with Glass Style motif fragments.
From the patch notes:Many of the rewards from previous years have been removed from Plunder Skulls to increase your chances of getting the newer stuff, but don't fear! The Impresario sells a grab bag for 2 Event Tickets each that contain one random component that you have yet to unlock for these bygone treasures. The item fragments included in this grab bag include:
Spectre Mask
Hollowjack Motif
Apple-Bobbing Cauldron
Skeletal Marionette
@ZOS_GinaBruno is this going to be the only way to to obtain the Hollowjack Motif from here on out? because based on the wording, that would require at least 28 tickets (14 pages at 2 tickets each) to obtain every piece and thus the achievement, which seems... pretty steep.
(on the other hand, I do like the idea of retiring certain older items. Those companion style pages from the Anniversary Jubilees would be a fantastic candidate for this next April.)
If stuff like this is being "retired" then any achievements connected to it need to be "retired" too, because it's unfair to have these achievements - especially ones with other achievements tied to it - if they're something you actually can't complete.
So the Hollowjack and Unsparing Harvest (and associated title and ability to buy a house) achievements will need to go. And also the Dremora motif achievement if they're retiring that also since they don't mention it either.
Many of the rewards from previous years have been removed from Plunder Skulls to increase your chances of getting the newer stuff, but don't fear! The Impresario sells a grab bag for 2 Event Tickets each that contain one random component that you have yet to unlock for these bygone treasures. The item fragments included in this grab bag include:
Spectre Mask
Hollowjack Motif
Apple-Bobbing Cauldron
Skeletal Marionette
trackdemon5512 wrote: »From the patch notes:Many of the rewards from previous years have been removed from Plunder Skulls to increase your chances of getting the newer stuff, but don't fear! The Impresario sells a grab bag for 2 Event Tickets each that contain one random component that you have yet to unlock for these bygone treasures. The item fragments included in this grab bag include:
Spectre Mask
Hollowjack Motif
Apple-Bobbing Cauldron
Skeletal Marionette
@ZOS_GinaBruno is this going to be the only way to to obtain the Hollowjack Motif from here on out? because based on the wording, that would require at least 28 tickets (14 pages at 2 tickets each) to obtain every piece and thus the achievement, which seems... pretty steep.
(on the other hand, I do like the idea of retiring certain older items. Those companion style pages from the Anniversary Jubilees would be a fantastic candidate for this next April.)
Can someone on PTS check and see if the grab bag now contains the entire Gold Motif Book rather than just single pages? If so that would alleviate most of the problems associated with the prevalence of the motif.
trackdemon5512 wrote: »@RaddlemanNumber7 thanks for checking. I’m sure that this will obviously be rectified when it goes live with guaranteed drops and selection of pages.
ZOS was right to change this as the drop table during the event was absolutely massive and the vast amount of the player population has all of the single-account use masks and motifs. I can guess that we will see a similar change with regards to New Life later this year with the prevalence of Skinchanger motif pages.
Dagoth_Rac wrote: »ZOS have backed themselves into a corner. They keep adding new drops to events so prior year players have something to collect. Which is good. But we have reached point where the loot tables are getting crowded and acquiring the 1 item you want out of the 1000 items in the loot table is frustrating. So ZOS want to retire some of the old items to tidy up the loot tables. But that takes something that was free and easy to get for old players and turns it into something expensive and difficult to collect for new players. Which is bad.
distraughtklownz wrote: »So, I haven't gone into the PTS yet, I'm actually downloading it now and reading stuff while it does. Has anyone actually tried this out yet?
I know I may be overly optimistic, but keeping inline with how they've handled similar items in the past (making things easier to get once they are old), wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that they are doing to this motif what they did with the glass style? Instead of making it available by pages, you can now obtain the whole book via event tickets?
Why not move these items to the event merchant’s assistant? Ideally add an additional currency like item to buy them that drops during the event, similar to imperial city key fragments. Otherwise, they’re old enough that a gold price wouldn’t be unreasonable. The aspiring master crafters and achievement hunters need their motifs.