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RESEARCH POLL: Do you spend more on Crown Crates or regular Crown Store Items?

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This is a poll that I am conducting for a college research paper. I am looking at the differences in spending between "loot box" systems and regular micro transactions. I ask that you please be honest with your answers. If you have any thoughts on the topic, leave them in the comments below.

THIS POLL IS ANONYMOUS

Thank you for your participation.

RESEARCH POLL: Do you spend more on Crown Crates or regular Crown Store Items? 79 votes

~10% Crown Crates : ~90% Crown Store
41% 33 votes
~20% Crown Crates : ~80% Crown Store
11% 9 votes
~30% Crown Crates : ~70% Crown Store
5% 4 votes
~40% Crown Crates : ~60% Crown Store
3% 3 votes
~50% Crown Crates : ~50% Crown Store
7% 6 votes
~60% Crown Crates : ~40% Crown Store
3% 3 votes
~70% Crown Crates : ~30% Crown Store
6% 5 votes
~80% Crown Crates : ~20% Crown Store
3% 3 votes
~90% Crown Crates : ~10% Crown Store
6% 5 votes
I don't spend Crowns on anything
10% 8 votes
  • deleted221106-002999
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    Please go away & stop spamming the forum with pointless polls that you immediately re-label 'ignore me'.

    But thanks anyway, I think I will.


    edit: Honest mistake/error admitted. Apology accepted & offered in return for my public expression of annoyance. Peace.
    Edited by deleted221106-002999 on July 20, 2020 12:06AM
  • VoidCommander
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    @Souterain

    I apologize for my error earlier. I was trying to press "ENTER" to create a space, but was on the poll question option bar. This caused my poll to be posted twice, instead of the intended spacing. I hope you can look past an honest mistake and participate constructively in what could be a relevant poll to other people.
  • bluebird
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    For a college research paper? Uhm really? I don't think you can compare spending between lootboxes and direct transactions... because... the items in lootboxes and direct transactions are different. It just depends on what people are interested in.

    If people love houses, they will buy houses (no way to get houses from crates). Same with name/race/faction changes, assistants, account upgrades like classes, DLCs, Imperials, Any Race Any Alliance, etc.

    And vice versa they barely put any new emotes, markings and mementos up for direct sales, you can only get them from Crates mostly.

    So values will reflect the playerbase's interest in specific items, rather than some overarching attitude to different methods of item acquisition (i.e. randomized vs direct sales).
    Edited by bluebird on July 20, 2020 12:07AM
  • Elsonso
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    No poll answer for: 0% Crown Crates: 100% Crown Store
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  • Tigerseye
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    Not sure, exactly, so had to take a stab at the answer...

    I think it will be the case with a lot of people that they can't be anywhere near that precise.

    I definitely have spent more on items than on Crown Crates, as I have hardly ever bought Crown Crates.

    Except, when I first came back to the game, out of curiosity I bought some with some of my ESO+ sub Crowns, which I then ended up having to replace to directly buy some non Crown Crate stuff.

    So, the distinction is a blurry one.

    Then, later, when there was a Crown Crate season I really liked the apex mounts (which is rare) and most of the other items from, I converted some gold and also, bought some Crowns to try to get them.

    There comes a point where you have spent enough on a certain season to make buying more worthwhile, in terms of the gem accumulation from duplicates.

    Whereas, buying a few from every season is almost invariably the worst thing you can do, unless you genuinely like almost all of the possible items you might receive.

    Most of the time I don't buy Crown Crates, because I don't want the apex mounts from them and I learnt early on that winning apex mounts, that you won't use and can't sell, or give away, is pretty disappointing.
  • idk
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    Elsonso wrote: »
    No poll answer for: 0% Crown Crates: 100% Crown Store

    I have to agree. OP has assumed all of us that have crowns purchase crown crates. Besides that glaring flaw with the poll, a forum poll does not offer quality data for anything called research.
  • Tigerseye
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    bluebird wrote: »
    For a college research paper? Uhm really? I don't think you can compare spending between lootboxes and direct transactions... because... the items in lootboxes and direct transactions are different. It just depends on what people are interested in.

    If people love houses, they will buy houses (no way to get houses from crates). Same with name/race/faction changes, assistants, account upgrades like classes, DLCs, Imperials, Any Race Any Alliance, etc.

    And vice versa they barely put any new emotes, markings and mementos up for direct sales, you can only get them from Crates mostly.

    So values will reflect the playerbase's interest in specific items, rather than some overarching attitude to different methods of item acquisition (i.e. randomized vs direct sales).

    Very true.

    You can't really tell, purely from what proportion of their Crowns someone spends on lootboxes, whether they are accepting/rejecting lootboxes on principle, or whether most of the things in them just happen to appeal/not appeal to them.

    You could, for example, be anti lootboxes, in principle, but find yourself liking almost all the items in a Crown Crate season, or even in general, so still choose to spend on them.

    I, personally, don't really approve of the lootbox method, as gambling addiction is a thing and I have seen people (literally) crying on Youtube after an unsuccessful Crown Crate opening session.

    I am not compelled to gamble for the thrill of it, personally, so can open them occasionally, to try to acquire certain things, without fearing the onset of of an uncontrollable addiction, but I know some people are not so lucky.
  • newtinmpls
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    I don't spend anything on crown crates
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  • Zer0_CooL
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    There should be an option for 0%/100%.

    I only spend crowns i get from ESO+, and none of them went into crates.
  • Fischblut
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    I love when there is something nice and desirable in regular store.
    Unfortunately, regular store rarely has something I like enough to buy :/ So I mostly buy crates.

    Last time the regular store had mount which was good enough for me was... in September 2019 :( I would aesthetically starve without crates.
  • Baybaeckz
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    10% crown crates, 90% crown stores, if I spend any at all
  • RaddlemanNumber7
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    d10 says 1
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  • Athyrium93
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    I kind of hate loot boxes, but I end up spending more on them than I would like because the things I really like always seem to be in them. That said when I first started I made the mistake of buying a house with crowns, and by mistake I mean that I didn't realize that a million gold is earn-able in a couple weeks of grinding once you hit CP160. That mistake will likely unbalance my loot box to crown store purchase percentage for a long time.

    If they start adding stuff I actually like to the crown store that will change though, I'd much rather spend a little more to ensure I get the thing I want rather than gambling.
  • Dusk_Coven
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    100% Crown Store.

    Although if I were to buy a gift for a friend, I might go with Crown Crates if I knew they really liked that sort of stuff. But for myself, guaranteed items only.

    I did idly think of buying Crown Crates, but when I reframed it to myself, asking "do I want to buy Crown Gems?" I stopped myself.
    Edited by Dusk_Coven on July 20, 2020 3:48PM
  • Nord_Raseri
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    It all depends where an item I want is located on the store, and how much breaking my body working that item is worth ;)
    Veit ég aðég hékk vindga meiði á nætr allar níu, geiri undaðr og gefinn Oðni, sjálfr sjálfum mér, á þeim meiði er manngi veit hvers hann af rótum rennr.
  • Danikat
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    10% crates, 90% store is the nearest I could get to my actual answer, which is 0% crown crates and 100% store.

    I've never bought crates and never will because I won't spend real money on something without knowing what I'm getting in return. Not just in ESO, that goes with everything. And yes this does mean I do not engage in gambling of any kind, as hard as that might be for some people to imagine. It doesn't matter what's in the crates, that doesn't factor into my decision. Yes there are several items I'd buy if they were in the store for a reasonable price, but since that's not an option those items are all effectively non-existant for me.

    Also I'm not sure of the specifics of your research, but I doubt you can draw any meaningful conclusions without also knowing how much each player typically spends. Loot boxes are typically designed to target 'whales' - the minority of players who spend the majority of the money. If 10 players spend the majority of their money in the store, but only typically spend $10-30 a month each and one guy spends the majority of his $1000 a month on crown crates then the crates are more profitable, even though fewer people buy them.
    Edited by Danikat on July 20, 2020 9:00PM
    PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!

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  • Kittytravel
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    Definitely should have included the answers of 100% Crown Crate 0% Store

    Or in my case (like a few others above) 100% Crown Store 0% Crown Crate.

    I get my free crates and that's all I dabble in them for; I find their mechanics underhanded and dodgy at best.
  • VoidCommander
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    Apologies for the "lack" of the 0-100% options. I originally designed the answers as ranges like 0-10% : 90-99%. I thought this would be very difficult to read, and thus simplified it to things like ~10% : ~90%. So if your answer is 0% crown crates for example, the option of ~10% : 90% is what you will want to select. Sorry for the confusion.
  • idk
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    Apologies for the "lack" of the 0-100% options. I originally designed the answers as ranges like 0-10% : 90-99%. I thought this would be very difficult to read, and thus simplified it to things like ~10% : ~90%. So if your answer is 0% crown crates for example, the option of ~10% : 90% is what you will want to select. Sorry for the confusion.

    So the "research" is based on falsified information. I can only hope this is not research for an ethics or philosophy class.
  • Hämähäkki
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    I don't buy crates at all. The crowns I get from ESO+ I usually spent on Gifts for two of my friends.
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  • Nightowl_74
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    I estimated 20% crates 80% store. If I have an excess of crowns from my sub and no house I'm saving for, I'll get one or two of the four crate bundles. I've spent a lot more on houses and crown only furnishings.
  • Myrnhiel
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    So if your answer is 0% crown crates for example, the option of ~10% : 90% is what you will want to select.

    Well no, because it wouldn't be true. For me it's "0% Crown Crates / 100% Crown Store".

    I don't buy crates on principle; I don't even open the ones I get for free because I'm not interested in the content they offer.

    And even the 100% Crown Store are spent very reluctantly as I don't find many things that are, in my opinion, worth spending money for. And even if I find something that I Iike, often the price tag makes me think twice and change my mind.


    Edited by Myrnhiel on July 21, 2020 9:42AM
  • Tigerseye
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    Myrnhiel wrote: »
    So if your answer is 0% crown crates for example, the option of ~10% : 90% is what you will want to select.

    Well no, because it wouldn't be true. For me it's "0% Crown Crates / 100% Crown Store".

    I don't buy crates on principle; I don't even open the ones I get for free because I'm not interested in the content they offer.

    And even the 100% Crown Store are spent very reluctantly as I don't find many things that are, in my opinion, worth spending money for. And even if I find something that I Iike, often the price tag makes me think twice and change my mind.


    I admire your stance, but you might as well open the free ones, surely?

    Or is it that you don't want to win anything from them, as you might then forget where you got it from, accidentally use it and then be, inadvertently, advertising crates?

    In which case, I do see your point.
  • Elsonso
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    Apologies for the "lack" of the 0-100% options. I originally designed the answers as ranges like 0-10% : 90-99%. I thought this would be very difficult to read, and thus simplified it to things like ~10% : ~90%. So if your answer is 0% crown crates for example, the option of ~10% : 90% is what you will want to select. Sorry for the confusion.

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  • OneForSorrow
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    So for me it's been typically around 80-90% store vs crates. I'll spend crowns I on crates only if there are multiple items in the lower tiers I want otherwise I don't bother.

    I like spending on basic store items more but it seems like everything even remotely interesting is going into the crates now...including things that were in the store before. This bothers me.

    I'd rather have some cool things for direct purchase in the store...or better yet in the actual game itself.
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  • Nyteshade
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    Elsonso wrote: »
    No poll answer for: 0% Crown Crates: 100% Crown Store

    This
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    I agree there should be an option for those of us who never buy crown crates, but will occasionally buy something with the crowns we get as part of the ESO plus subscription. I’ve never bought a crate and never will.
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    From your description, it looks like
    This is a poll that I am conducting for a college research paper. I am looking at the differences in spending between "loot box" systems and regular micro transactions. I ask that you please be honest with your answers. If you have any thoughts on the topic, leave them in the comments below.

    THIS POLL IS ANONYMOUS

    Thank you for your participation.

    It looks like from your description, that you DO NOT like Crown Crates. You call them Loot Box.
    I feel that you should not voice your opinion in the description.
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    CROWN CRATES: It doesn't affect gameplay, it's not mandatory, it's cosmetic only. If it helps to support the game and ZOS, I support it! Say YES to crown crates.
  • Elsonso
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    From your description, it looks like
    This is a poll that I am conducting for a college research paper. I am looking at the differences in spending between "loot box" systems and regular micro transactions. I ask that you please be honest with your answers. If you have any thoughts on the topic, leave them in the comments below.

    THIS POLL IS ANONYMOUS

    Thank you for your participation.

    It looks like from your description, that you DO NOT like Crown Crates. You call them Loot Box.
    I feel that you should not voice your opinion in the description.

    I would suggest that he called them that because it is what they are. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loot_box Crown Crates are just loot boxes that are specific to ESO.
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  • VoidCommander
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    @Easily_Lost The term "loot box" is a general term used to describe random reward mechanics that are obtained primarily through real life currency. It was not meant to be a negative term, however your insight into believing it to be a bad thing already is enlightening. Does a "loot box" bring with it a heap of negative social stigma, even before an opinion specific to the game that created them can be formed?
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