Any set of the elemental/damage types that affect light attack/heavy attack has not been buffed. The poison/disease equilavent set, has been buffed.
I don't feel its an oversight when medium armor increases weapon damge by a flat percentage; whereas, its known fact its harder to stack spell damage to comparable levels with light armor.
Any set of the elemental/damage types that affect light attack/heavy attack has not been buffed. The poison/disease equilavent set, has been buffed.
Does Automaton boost light attacks?If that's the case than it seems like making it only work on active abilities is an easy fix. Bring it up to 600 weapon damage and have it only affect skills.
driosketch wrote: »Any set of the elemental/damage types that affect light attack/heavy attack has not been buffed. The poison/disease equilavent set, has been buffed.Does Automaton boost light attacks?If that's the case than it seems like making it only work on active abilities is an easy fix. Bring it up to 600 weapon damage and have it only affect skills.
Because if it does, it might be better to leave it as is. Not sure you would want an extra 200 bonus to your abilities while losing 400 on your light attack weave.
driosketch wrote: »Any set of the elemental/damage types that affect light attack/heavy attack has not been buffed. The poison/disease equilavent set, has been buffed.Does Automaton boost light attacks?If that's the case than it seems like making it only work on active abilities is an easy fix. Bring it up to 600 weapon damage and have it only affect skills.
Because if it does, it might be better to leave it as is. Not sure you would want an extra 200 bonus to your abilities while losing 400 on your light attack weave.
Yes it does. It's like Silk's of the Sun but for phys dmg. It boosts everything. And Silks have not been buffed to 600 flame dmg for that precise reason. Otherwise every mag DK would be running that and it would be superior to BSW, NMA, Elemental Succession... even Siroria.
driosketch wrote: »driosketch wrote: »Any set of the elemental/damage types that affect light attack/heavy attack has not been buffed. The poison/disease equilavent set, has been buffed.Does Automaton boost light attacks?If that's the case than it seems like making it only work on active abilities is an easy fix. Bring it up to 600 weapon damage and have it only affect skills.
Because if it does, it might be better to leave it as is. Not sure you would want an extra 200 bonus to your abilities while losing 400 on your light attack weave.
Yes it does. It's like Silk's of the Sun but for phys dmg. It boosts everything. And Silks have not been buffed to 600 flame dmg for that precise reason. Otherwise every mag DK would be running that and it would be superior to BSW, NMA, Elemental Succession... even Siroria.
Then this is not an oversight, but ZOS fixing one when they first did a flat 400 across the board. Have to say, I'm glad they decided to buff War Maiden rather than nerf the rest.
driosketch wrote: »driosketch wrote: »Any set of the elemental/damage types that affect light attack/heavy attack has not been buffed. The poison/disease equilavent set, has been buffed.Does Automaton boost light attacks?If that's the case than it seems like making it only work on active abilities is an easy fix. Bring it up to 600 weapon damage and have it only affect skills.
Because if it does, it might be better to leave it as is. Not sure you would want an extra 200 bonus to your abilities while losing 400 on your light attack weave.
Yes it does. It's like Silk's of the Sun but for phys dmg. It boosts everything. And Silks have not been buffed to 600 flame dmg for that precise reason. Otherwise every mag DK would be running that and it would be superior to BSW, NMA, Elemental Succession... even Siroria.
Then this is not an oversight, but ZOS fixing one when they first did a flat 400 across the board. Have to say, I'm glad they decided to buff War Maiden rather than nerf the rest.
Yep it's not an oversight, it's intended. They wanted to buff niche sets where the damage type only applies to some skills. Not buff things like Fire and Phys Dmg which are ubiquitous.
I think OP made a suggestion that it should be buffed to 600 wpn/sp. dmg. but exclude light attacks. That would make Automaton the most potent set for Trash AOE by a mile, outclassing NMA by 120 wpn dmg and with no drawbacks. Since stam builds are basically using Hail, Caltrops, FlawDawn and then spam Brawler... all of which is phys dmg. It wouldn't be very balanced.
driosketch wrote: »driosketch wrote: »Any set of the elemental/damage types that affect light attack/heavy attack has not been buffed. The poison/disease equilavent set, has been buffed.Does Automaton boost light attacks?If that's the case than it seems like making it only work on active abilities is an easy fix. Bring it up to 600 weapon damage and have it only affect skills.
Because if it does, it might be better to leave it as is. Not sure you would want an extra 200 bonus to your abilities while losing 400 on your light attack weave.
Yes it does. It's like Silk's of the Sun but for phys dmg. It boosts everything. And Silks have not been buffed to 600 flame dmg for that precise reason. Otherwise every mag DK would be running that and it would be superior to BSW, NMA, Elemental Succession... even Siroria.
Then this is not an oversight, but ZOS fixing one when they first did a flat 400 across the board. Have to say, I'm glad they decided to buff War Maiden rather than nerf the rest.
Yep it's not an oversight, it's intended. They wanted to buff niche sets where the damage type only applies to some skills. Not buff things like Fire and Phys Dmg which are ubiquitous. That would be too much of a buff for classes that can build for only that type of damage (like MagDK and StamSorc).
I think OP made a suggestion that it should be buffed to 600 wpn/sp. dmg. but exclude light attacks. That would make Automaton the most potent set for Trash AOE by a mile, outclassing NMA by 120 wpn dmg and with no drawbacks. Since quite a few stam builds are basically using Hail, Caltrops, FlawDawn and then spam Brawler for cleave damage... all of which is phys dmg. It wouldn't be very balanced.
Light attacks are also not as important to stam as they are to mag. That buff would make stam sorcs the top stam dps in an instant.
It is also not a "proc" so you have to have the 5pc on to benefit from it at all. The set I mentioned earlier "Elemental Succession" is 550 for the element you do damage with....all elements can be active at the same time...100% of the time and can be used as a front bar set. Seems like that set is quite bis for a lot of situations, but you don't see anyone complaining about it because it's very situational.
False equivalence.I don't feel its an oversight when medium armor increases weapon damge by a flat percentage; whereas, its known fact its harder to stack spell damage to comparable levels with light armor.
I don't think it's fair that the sharpened trait, breach, spinners, destro passives, etc get pen when it is easier to get pen on magicka classes.
This is severe sarcasm if you couldn't tell.
WrathOfInnos wrote: »As others pointed out, it’s not really an fair comparison to look at the magnitude of War Maiden and Automaton. There isn’t a single weapon skill in the game that deals magic damage, and the only magic based light and heavy attacks are from a healing staff. Physical damage is the core of 4/6 weapon skill lines, light and heavy attacks these weapon types, and several class and non-class skills.
If any comparison is going to be made, I would say Fire damage and Silks of the Sun is much more similar to Automaton than War Maiden. Although even Silks of the Sun cannot realistically reach 100% of damage done since it doesn’t affect Mystic Orb.
Joy_Division wrote: »These sets are not as comparable as the OP is making them out to be. There are a lot more physical damage abilities than magic damage. For ex. everything a elemental staff (all three) fires is not an elemental attack and thus useless when wearing this set whereas everything a 2H hits is a physical attack and thus would be buffed by the automaton set.
Any set of the elemental/damage types that affect light attack/heavy attack has not been buffed. The poison/disease equilavent set, has been buffed.
Let's also not forget about this set, which still blows the two of them out of the water:
Elemental Succession
(2 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(3 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(5 items) Whenever you deal Flame, Shock, or Frost Damage, you gain 550 Spell Damage for that element for 4 seconds. This effect can occur every 4 seconds per element. You can have multiple different elemental buffs active simultaneously.