AFK battleground gold&ap farming - why ZOS doesn't do anything with that?

green_2

So once again I met disgusting afk battleground farmer with simple keyboard macro to move and shoot constantly and my question is why people like the one in video below aren't banned?

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I reported person being afk in battlegrounds to support, didn't get any response and after almost 2 weeks met him afking in bgs again
How can any enjoy pvp when you either play as 3 or with 1/2 afkers?
People without any (or small amount) points, damage, healing shouldn't get experience, gold and ap for bgs.

Hey ZOS, maybe start actually banning people for it?
I swear to god if the "person" from my video won't get banned then I'm done with bgs.

[Edited to remove Naming and Shaming]

Ascarl

The most likely result is that this thread will get locked and you will get a warning for "naming and shaming" in the forums.

Obeying to the forum rules seems to be much more important than hunting down cheaters.

Sarannah

green_2 wrote: »

People without any (or small amount) points, damage, healing shouldn't get experience, gold and ap for bgs.

They should. Sometimes I enter as a tank, and slow, debuff, and distract enemies while my teammates pick them off. This doesn't get me kills, or even much damage, but I did contribute. Everyone contributes in their own way, even if it is small. And if you happen to finish last, they don't get anything anyway.

In this video: Maybe the other player was recording you being afk too(you never left either), and sometimes shooting a fireball. And in the beginning it looks like he is shooting at the gate, maybe trying to tell you all to go in first. Since he might have wanted to stay back since he is a bow user. Besides that, not everyone knows what they are doing yet. And some people have the weirdest tactics sometimes. hehe

Anyways, players who really AFK in bg's should get atleast a week ban from that activity. An account ban for an AFK is way over the top to be honest. That would ban half the playerbase if they happen to disconnect or crash. An activity ban for some days is fine for something like this.

green_2

Sarannah wrote: »

green_2 wrote: »

People without any (or small amount) points, damage, healing shouldn't get experience, gold and ap for bgs.

They should. Sometimes I enter as a tank, and slow, debuff, and distract enemies while my teammates pick them off. This doesn't get me kills, or even much damage, but I did contribute. Everyone contributes in their own way, even if it is small. And if you happen to finish last, they don't get anything anyway.

In this video: Maybe the other player was recording you being afk too(you never left either), and sometimes shooting a fireball. And in the beginning it looks like he is shooting at the gate, maybe trying to tell you all to go in first. Since he might have wanted to stay back since he is a bow user. Besides that, not everyone knows what they are doing yet. And some people have the weirdest tactics sometimes. hehe

Anyways, players who really AFK in bg's should get atleast a week ban from that activity. An account ban for an AFK is way over the top to be honest. That would ban half the playerbase if they happen to disconnect or crash. An activity ban for some days is fine for something like this.

I left before, died and realized someone is still standing on spawn. Don't try to justify him, he was clearly moving in the same pattern for 3 minutes.
I even popped statistics window to show he hasn't left the spawn.
First ban for afkers should be for week, second for month and then perm.

Fischblut

For afk farmer such as shown on video, I agree there should be serious punishment. Also, you better remove the video from this thread and create new support ticket - and after you get automated reply, you need to reply to that and send them the link for the video for investigation. It's the only way to properly report such kind of bot.

But sometimes there are also cowards/people with fragile ego, who just stay in spawn and press some button from time to time to not get kicked from the match. And no, I don't talk about situations when weak team is spawn-camped and some of them just stay in spawn and attack enemies with ranged abilities. I think there needs to be a kick system (with 15 minutes penalty afterwards), if somebody stays in BG spawn for more than 30 seconds without taking damage after the match has started. It would prevent both botters and trolls from wasting somebody's place in team.

FierceSam

While I get your frustration, I don’t think this is an issue ZOS will really do anything about. Not because they don’t get it, or they’re not bothered but because MYM aside the game struggles to get anyone to play BGs.

It’s one of the reasons there have been no additional BG maps (surely the easiest and cheapest DLC content you could possibly create) and why you can’t even choose which map or game to play.

ZOS are hardly going to go out of their way to discourage anyone from playing BGs when the population is so low. To be honest I’m sure they prefer to have three 4 player teams with a couple of cheats in there somewhere than have 10 players wait for another minute (or ten) for two non-cheaters to decide to play.

green_2

Fischblut wrote: »

For afk farmer such as shown on video, I agree there should be serious punishment. Also, you better remove the video from this thread and create new support ticket - and after you get automated reply, you need to reply to that and send them the link for the video for investigation. It's the only way to properly report such kind of bot.

But sometimes there are also cowards/people with fragile ego, who just stay in spawn and press some button from time to time to not get kicked from the match. And no, I don't talk about situations when weak team is spawn-camped and some of them just stay in spawn and attack enemies with ranged abilities. I think there needs to be a kick system (with 15 minutes penalty afterwards), if somebody stays in BG spawn for more than 30 seconds without taking damage after the match has started. It would prevent both botters and trolls from wasting somebody's place in team.

I was thinking about something like that too but in most cases spawns are open and bots can just keep moving forward to go out of spawn and dying.

Beardimus

Cheats on PvE now and then appear to get action.
PvP seems ignored on that front

wolfie1.0.

Well last 4 battlegrounds I participated in I didn't leave spawn after first death because my OWN team was insulting me... so keep in mind that sometimes there are valid reasons to sit things out. I'm not going to be a team player in a team that insults the in experienced.

ZOS really just needs to bring back teams in a second queue. Pugs in one group and premades in another. Wont happen but whatever.

green_2

wtlonewolf20 wrote: »

Well last 4 battlegrounds I participated in I didn't leave spawn after first death because my OWN team was insulting me... so keep in mind that sometimes there are valid reasons to sit things out. I'm not going to be a team player in a team that insults the in experienced.

ZOS really just needs to bring back teams in a second queue. Pugs in one group and premades in another. Wont happen but whatever.

This topic is obviously about people abusing keyboard macro to afk farm gold, exp and ap.

mairwen85

Worse are the ones who do leave spawn, but then hide and stay hidden until the match ends.

Dusk_Coven

Honestly PvP AFK cheating is quite interesting.
It's different from AFK macro cheating at, say, a Dolmen. People are coming and going, they might not notice a bot there repeating their moves for a long time.
But in PvP, especially when it's a TEAM activity -- do they really expect to not be noticed?
Are they hoping the entire team is composed of AFK bots?
Is the culture here one where they are so honestly not afraid of consequence?
Or can they somehow move their ill-gotten gains before a ban and just restart easily somehow?

green_2

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

Honestly PvP AFK cheating is quite interesting.
It's different from AFK macro cheating at, say, a Dolmen. People are coming and going, they might not notice a bot there repeating their moves for a long time.
But in PvP, especially when it's a TEAM activity -- do they really expect to not be noticed?
Are they hoping the entire team is composed of AFK bots?
Is the culture here one where they are so honestly not afraid of consequence?
Or can they somehow move their ill-gotten gains before a ban and just restart easily somehow?

They are not afraid because zos doesn't care about banning them.