Nunatak - Midyear Horrors

tinythinker

Gylzyn wrote: »

I am really unhappy that this is not going to get fixed and I have to wait - 6 moths? - to get this achievement.

One year. It only happened last winter because last summer's was postponed.

vgabor

Interestingly enough I have an opposite side issue with one of my characters, she has Midyear Horror with all the bosses ticked but from the Horror of Horrors Mazaluhad is missing...

Gylzyn

A year???? Well I guess that means I just won't bother with achievements. Heck, I may not bother to renew my ESO Plus and instead spend my money on a company that has better customer service.

RusevCrush

Just apply the credit on the backend. I simple query. We're happy. Done.

Smaxx

tinythinker wrote: »

Gylzyn wrote: »

I am really unhappy that this is not going to get fixed and I have to wait - 6 moths? - to get this achievement.

One year. It only happened last winter because last summer's was postponed.

I'm pretty sure we've had it twice in 2019, too.

KickMeAlready

Personal update: I got the credit for the kill after I did it solo. Also gotta mention that even duo kills with getting the killing blow did not give me the achievement.

Try it solo if you can, it should work, at least that's how it worked for me and how others told me too.
(But I shouldn't forget to mention that all the other bosses worked fine even in groups while I had to kill Nunatak 35+ times.)

Andreakos

Just got the credit now, i started the fight alone and got him to 75%, then other players joined and it worked.

TineaCruris

It's totally random whether you get credit or not. I just nearly solo'd Nunatak AGAIN and got no credit. I did at least 70% of the damage and the second guy got in maybe three hits total.

Getting credit or not is totally random.

Don't even try for the midyear horror achievement until you see ZOS make a post saying it's fixed.

Ezhh

It's just very disappointing since this was the achievement I didn't manage to finish up in the last event as well. I don't really want to wait until the next one, but it's difficult to find the boss not being camped to try for a solo kill. Someone has shown up each time for me (usually from another alliance and also trying to kill me at the same time for added fun!), and despite being on a fairly high damage build, I guess I am somehow never getting the last hit.

TineaCruris

Ezhh wrote: »

It's just very disappointing since this was the achievement I didn't manage to finish up in the last event as well. I don't really want to wait until the next one, but it's difficult to find the boss not being camped to try for a solo kill. Someone has shown up each time for me (usually from another alliance and also trying to kill me at the same time for added fun!), and despite being on a fairly high damage build, I guess I am somehow never getting the last hit.

Getting the killing blow WILL NOT guarantee you get credit. It's basically rng random if you get credit.

driosketch

TineaCruris wrote: »

It's totally random whether you get credit or not. I just nearly solo'd Nunatak AGAIN and got no credit. I did at least 70% of the damage and the second guy got in maybe three hits total.

Getting credit or not is totally random.

Don't even try for the midyear horror achievement until you see ZOS make a post saying it's fixed.

If it is random, it's at least an easy try. Memorial district horrors pass by the Alliance platform. Pop up, see if the Ice boss is up, tag it, then continue with your day. You'll either get it or you won't.

Chufu

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi all, confirming we've seen this post and are working on getting this fixed. The next incremental patch isn't scheduled until after Midyear Mayhem ends, but it will be fixed by time the next Midyear Mayhem rolls around. In the meantime as a workaround, getting the killing blow on Nunatak should trigger the achievement.

Unfortunately this is not true Gina. I've killed Nunatak 3 times today, two times I died, but one time I made more than 50% of the damage of the health of the boss and the other time I did just some hits on him. Didn't got it. In the last try, I was able to zerg him down with some colleagues and as I had execute as well, I should have gotten the Killing blow... but still no achievement.

It's the last boss that is missing, this is so frustrating.

And when it gets fixed we need to wait until the next mayhem so in 6-12 months? This is just...

I am still happy I looked this up now, otherwise I would probably have spent even more time trying to get this achievement, but it's just not possible.

TineaCruris

driosketch wrote: »

TineaCruris wrote: »

It's totally random whether you get credit or not. I just nearly solo'd Nunatak AGAIN and got no credit. I did at least 70% of the damage and the second guy got in maybe three hits total.

Getting credit or not is totally random.

Don't even try for the midyear horror achievement until you see ZOS make a post saying it's fixed.

If it is random, it at least an easy try. Memorial district horrors pass by the Alliance platform. Pop up, see if the Ice boss is up, tag it, then continue with your day. You'll either get it or you won't.

That is what I've been doing at least a couple times per day. That's probably why I'm getting frustrated enough about it that I should find something else to do.

KickMeAlready

I did it solo on another character too today, got credit on the first try.
I guess you have to solo it, 100%, without another player doing even just 1 damage.

Colinr1968

Solo no that's wrong I did it with a group of bout 4 I got the achievement friend didn't, other day 2 manned it on another toon nothing

Colinr1968

Plain simple terms @ginabruno does not know what she on about also lies I got the horror of horrors achievement by killing nunatak but not the midyear horror achievement, so her claims at getting final blow is a lie,also she said the paych can't be done till after the event but yet she posted 10 mins before posting on here the even is being extended by a day due to scheduled maintenance, the fix can be done then surely and I'm right they have shut down in evenings in weekends to do hot fix.
They could also give anyone who got the rest of they bosses if they been active to try kill nunatak the achievement therefore not making people wait a year. Rant over

Schiffy

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Getting the killing blow isn't easy when there's a whole mass of people fighting it. Can we get some word on whether or not the people who would have gotten credit had it not been bugged will get it after the fix?

Munkfist

Sadly, the killing blow doesn't always work, either. Have solo'd it several times now, and alas, no credit. These events just get more infuriating.

Smaxx

Colinr1968 wrote: »

Plain simple terms @ginabruno does not know what she on about also lies I got the horror of horrors achievement by killing nunatak but not the midyear horror achievement, so her claims at getting final blow is a lie,also she said the paych can't be done till after the event but yet she posted 10 mins before posting on here the even is being extended by a day due to scheduled maintenance, the fix can be done then surely and I'm right they have shut down in evenings in weekends to do hot fix.

You're interpreting/implying far too much from two posts. It would be nice, if programming a complex program (like the server software behind an MMO) would be that easy.

Normally, changes in a game of this size (or typically anything not developed as a hobbyist project) would go through different phases of approval. The change is done, someone looks over the code to ensure it's well written, then it gets through testing, being tested on all supported platforms and based on all possible interactions, etc.

If these things are skipped, people are typically talking of a "hot fix", since it's basically still glowing hot and right on the front lines without massive testing or verifications.

Given the small time span of less than two weeks (the whole event is running for 12 days only after all), this barely left them maybe one or two working days – don't forget they had a bank holiday on Friday, too! – after hearing of the issue to actually identify/find it, developing a fix, and potentially test it, too. I'm not saying this can't be done, but given the fact the issue only happens with that one boss, it's very likely some more complex interaction that's somehow acting up.

So in the end they decided to go the more safe way and left it as it is for now. That's certainly bad for those still missing that kill credit, but then again the achievement is just there for points, not even any other reward or requirement for other achievements to be completed. As such I can totally understand them not wanting to risk any bugs, especially after the recent issues on the EU servers after Greymoor launch, which were caused by the achievement system acting up.

It's certainly not a lie IMO. I'm even confident to say that Gina (nor Jessica or anyone else on the CM team) would lie here. What do they have to gain? Nothing. They could say "we'll probably fix it on Monday", then let it pass without changes. That would be a behavior I've seen for Battlefield V for example, and that's certainly far worse, don't you think?

Colinr1968 wrote: »

They could also give anyone who got the rest of they bosses if they been active to try kill nunatak the achievement therefore not making people wait a year. Rant over

Yeah, possibly, but I guess they don't log that, so couldn't track it. They could implicitly assume everyone who got "Horror of Horrors" during the event to also complete the other one, but that wouldn't be 100% accurate either and would still leave those out that completed that achievement a lot earlier.

Chufu

KickMeAlready wrote: »

I did it solo on another character too today, got credit on the first try.
I guess you have to solo it, 100%, without another player doing even just 1 damage.

Sounds easy, but normally there is always another player there (or a whole zerg), because this one is missing now for so many people. ^^

Colinr1968

So when they shut it down on weekend for hot fix that discussed in advance planned etc no and yes they can sort it in maintenance been proven plus I know programmers they said it can be done

TineaCruris

I'm not posting to rub anyone's face in it, just to let people know that it is possible, however random, to get credit for Nunatak. I've been one of the more vocal critics of this bug and been farming Nunatak for hours every day for the better part of a week, and I finally got the achievement yesterday. I mostly kept at it to see if it really was possible to get credit. I wouldn't recommend anyone else try to grind it out, just saying it is actually possible to get credit. It's still smarter to wait until they say they've fixed it to try IMO.

vgabor

It's definitely not the killing blow. One of my character got the kill credit to the achievement while was running back to the boss from the district base after getting killed by an enemy player. While the character did enough damage during the fight to be able to loot the body when got back there, he wasn't even near Nunatak when the boss actually died.

Bighits

I can verify that the amount of damage you do or getting the killing blow are not a guarantee to get this achievement. Me and my friend took him down twice.... My friend just healed me while I did all of the DPS. And just to make sure my friend ran off before Nunatak died, and allowed me to finish him solo. No credit for kill.

LAMBinLCTX

TineaCruris wrote: »

I mostly kept at it to see if it really was possible to get credit. I wouldn't recommend anyone else try to grind it out, just saying it is actually possible to get credit. It's still smarter to wait until they say they've fixed it to try IMO.

Thanks for doing that detective work, so to speak — I’ve been going there for a few minutes every day but I’ve been busy at home and haven’t had much time to play — another reason I was so annoyed by this bug. I’ve had one conflict or another during every previous Midyear Mayhem event, and in fact was only free to play for the first week of this one.

LAMBinLCTX

I have every other holiday achievement so it’s beyond frustrating that this is happening now.

Aerius_Sygale

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi all, confirming we've seen this post and are working on getting this fixed. The next incremental patch isn't scheduled until after Midyear Mayhem ends, but it will be fixed by time the next Midyear Mayhem rolls around. In the meantime as a workaround, getting the killing blow on Nunatak should trigger the achievement.

Gee, I was wondering if it would be in time for a year from now, thanks for clearing that up. I'm sure Pack Leader's direwolves now being supposed to count toward the Call of the Pack passive won't be fixed in time for that, though.

Gylzyn

I also have finally managed to get this achievement tonight after killing this boss so many times I have lost count. There was no logic to why I got credit this time and not others. It wasn't the killing blow or anything else obvious. Although I am pleased to have gotten the achievement, I feel for others who don't have the time to grind as much as I have managed. It has tested my patience to be ganked and stalked whilst trying to get this achievement (on one night killed repeatedly by the same player 6 times in a row). I think those that argue that "it's only an achievement" - which feels to be the attitude of ZOS too - forget that for some of us, getting the achievements are a key part of the game. This bug, coming after so many bugs released with Greymoor, has been very frustrating.

TineaCruris

Gylzyn wrote: »

I also have finally managed to get this achievement tonight after killing this boss so many times I have lost count. There was no logic to why I got credit this time and not others. It wasn't the killing blow or anything else obvious. Although I am pleased to have gotten the achievement, I feel for others who don't have the time to grind as much as I have managed. It has tested my patience to be ganked and stalked whilst trying to get this achievement (on one night killed repeatedly by the same player 6 times in a row). I think those that argue that "it's only an achievement" - which feels to be the attitude of ZOS too - forget that for some of us, getting the achievements are a key part of the game. This bug, coming after so many bugs released with Greymoor, has been very frustrating.

Yes, quite a few IC "pro" gankers are living in IC's Memorial district now knowing that so many are trying to get their last event achievement there and are willing to expose themselves trying for it. ....another horrible side effect of not fixing bugs when they pop up.

Colinr1968

8 hours of maintenance and no fix on nunatak guess we have been ripped of by zos again well done zos