Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »
I hate to break it to you, but EP will be winning this campaign. We've found the way to win and will be exploting it until this campaign ends. It's now up to DC and AD to adapt if they want to win.
Yup Ahtu, the way you are giving away points to AD who hold your scroll, I start to think there could be some exploit. I was very doubtful you literally exploit as there were no signs of OP skills in your group, but now you seem so certain of the win. DC is attacking ypur tri keeps and you gain hardly any ground. Not very convincing. Maybe if you open about your exploit so we sette thismatter here and now
Let me just remind you again that you are 2000 points behind EP, as it seems you have forgotten. The only reason you have that scroll is because you took it while everyone was sleeping. Enjoy it while you can as our revenge will be twice as bad.
Campaign only lags when there is an AD ballgroup running around.
Seriously? The whole game lags now, no matter who's running around.
You just aren't paying close enough attention. The lag only starts when ballgroups are running, no matter which faction they play on. They put a tremendous amount of strain on the game.
5 ballgroups fought each other at once in Blackreach last week. Much to my surprise, the game ran pretty good. There were a few hiccups here and there, we had 2 disconnects if I remember right, but it was night and day difference compared to Grey Host.
Not at once. They took turns fighting each other.
Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »
I hate to break it to you, but EP will be winning this campaign. We've found the way to win and will be exploting it until this campaign ends. It's now up to DC and AD to adapt if they want to win.
Yup Ahtu, the way you are giving away points to AD who hold your scroll, I start to think there could be some exploit. I was very doubtful you literally exploit as there were no signs of OP skills in your group, but now you seem so certain of the win. DC is attacking ypur tri keeps and you gain hardly any ground. Not very convincing. Maybe if you open about your exploit so we sette thismatter here and now
Let me just remind you again that you are 2000 points behind EP, as it seems you have forgotten. The only reason you have that scroll is because you took it while everyone was sleeping. Enjoy it while you can as our revenge will be twice as bad.
I like your ballsy comments but how do you explain that you lost both your scrolls now? FYI, the points difference is 400 to DC and 600 to AD. The game is on.
Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »
I hate to break it to you, but EP will be winning this campaign. We've found the way to win and will be exploting it until this campaign ends. It's now up to DC and AD to adapt if they want to win.
Yup Ahtu, the way you are giving away points to AD who hold your scroll, I start to think there could be some exploit. I was very doubtful you literally exploit as there were no signs of OP skills in your group, but now you seem so certain of the win. DC is attacking ypur tri keeps and you gain hardly any ground. Not very convincing. Maybe if you open about your exploit so we sette thismatter here and now
Let me just remind you again that you are 2000 points behind EP, as it seems you have forgotten. The only reason you have that scroll is because you took it while everyone was sleeping. Enjoy it while you can as our revenge will be twice as bad.
I like your ballsy comments but how do you explain that you lost both your scrolls now? FYI, the points difference is 400 to DC and 600 to AD. The game is on.
AD does all the work while DC pvdoors the other camps..DC is being carried by AD and zos, not something I'd brag about
Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »
I hate to break it to you, but EP will be winning this campaign. We've found the way to win and will be exploting it until this campaign ends. It's now up to DC and AD to adapt if they want to win.
Yup Ahtu, the way you are giving away points to AD who hold your scroll, I start to think there could be some exploit. I was very doubtful you literally exploit as there were no signs of OP skills in your group, but now you seem so certain of the win. DC is attacking ypur tri keeps and you gain hardly any ground. Not very convincing. Maybe if you open about your exploit so we sette thismatter here and now
Let me just remind you again that you are 2000 points behind EP, as it seems you have forgotten. The only reason you have that scroll is because you took it while everyone was sleeping. Enjoy it while you can as our revenge will be twice as bad.
I like your ballsy comments but how do you explain that you lost both your scrolls now? FYI, the points difference is 400 to DC and 600 to AD. The game is on.
AD does all the work while DC pvdoors the other camps..DC is being carried by AD and zos, not something I'd brag about
I would say good luck bringing people who either hate CP or hate the PowerPoint gameplay of a campaign we have to Gray Host. Not the DC in Gray Host’s fault that DC in other campaigns aren’t playing in Gray Host. This is mainly a ZOS issue
Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »
I hate to break it to you, but EP will be winning this campaign. We've found the way to win and will be exploting it until this campaign ends. It's now up to DC and AD to adapt if they want to win.
Yup Ahtu, the way you are giving away points to AD who hold your scroll, I start to think there could be some exploit. I was very doubtful you literally exploit as there were no signs of OP skills in your group, but now you seem so certain of the win. DC is attacking ypur tri keeps and you gain hardly any ground. Not very convincing. Maybe if you open about your exploit so we sette thismatter here and now
Let me just remind you again that you are 2000 points behind EP, as it seems you have forgotten. The only reason you have that scroll is because you took it while everyone was sleeping. Enjoy it while you can as our revenge will be twice as bad.
I like your ballsy comments but how do you explain that you lost both your scrolls now? FYI, the points difference is 400 to DC and 600 to AD. The game is on.
AD does all the work while DC pvdoors the other camps..DC is being carried by AD and zos, not something I'd brag about
I would say good luck bringing people who either hate CP or hate the PowerPoint gameplay of a campaign we have to Gray Host. Not the DC in Gray Host’s fault that DC in other campaigns aren’t playing in Gray Host. This is mainly a ZOS issue
I agree but gaining 700+ points on the side in first every night just from not playing the game is ridiculous period...The other 2 sides actually put up with the *** show yet dc gets rewarded for not playing
Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »
I hate to break it to you, but EP will be winning this campaign. We've found the way to win and will be exploting it until this campaign ends. It's now up to DC and AD to adapt if they want to win.
Yup Ahtu, the way you are giving away points to AD who hold your scroll, I start to think there could be some exploit. I was very doubtful you literally exploit as there were no signs of OP skills in your group, but now you seem so certain of the win. DC is attacking ypur tri keeps and you gain hardly any ground. Not very convincing. Maybe if you open about your exploit so we sette thismatter here and now
Let me just remind you again that you are 2000 points behind EP, as it seems you have forgotten. The only reason you have that scroll is because you took it while everyone was sleeping. Enjoy it while you can as our revenge will be twice as bad.
I like your ballsy comments but how do you explain that you lost both your scrolls now? FYI, the points difference is 400 to DC and 600 to AD. The game is on.
AD does all the work while DC pvdoors the other camps..DC is being carried by AD and zos, not something I'd brag about
I would say good luck bringing people who either hate CP or hate the PowerPoint gameplay of a campaign we have to Gray Host. Not the DC in Gray Host’s fault that DC in other campaigns aren’t playing in Gray Host. This is mainly a ZOS issue
I agree but gaining 700+ points on the side in first every night just from not playing the game is ridiculous period...The other 2 sides actually put up with the *** show yet dc gets rewarded for not playing
Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »
I hate to break it to you, but EP will be winning this campaign. We've found the way to win and will be exploting it until this campaign ends. It's now up to DC and AD to adapt if they want to win.
Yup Ahtu, the way you are giving away points to AD who hold your scroll, I start to think there could be some exploit. I was very doubtful you literally exploit as there were no signs of OP skills in your group, but now you seem so certain of the win. DC is attacking ypur tri keeps and you gain hardly any ground. Not very convincing. Maybe if you open about your exploit so we sette thismatter here and now
Let me just remind you again that you are 2000 points behind EP, as it seems you have forgotten. The only reason you have that scroll is because you took it while everyone was sleeping. Enjoy it while you can as our revenge will be twice as bad.
I like your ballsy comments but how do you explain that you lost both your scrolls now? FYI, the points difference is 400 to DC and 600 to AD. The game is on.
AD does all the work while DC pvdoors the other camps..DC is being carried by AD and zos, not something I'd brag about
I would say good luck bringing people who either hate CP or hate the PowerPoint gameplay of a campaign we have to Gray Host. Not the DC in Gray Host’s fault that DC in other campaigns aren’t playing in Gray Host. This is mainly a ZOS issue
I agree but gaining 700+ points on the side in first every night just from not playing the game is ridiculous period...The other 2 sides actually put up with the *** show yet dc gets rewarded for not playing
There are X amount of people playing at any given time. If they choose to stack on one faction long enough another faction will get the bonus. Don't be hypocritical I have seen yellow and red also get the bonus quite recently. It's not an issue created by any given faction, it is an issue of the player base not spreading out and representing all factions during all play times. The low pop bonus is the equalizer to players stacking in one faction and PvDooring 1 bar factions for too long of a time. Spread out on all the factions at all times, and watch the low pop bonus disappear.
Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »
I hate to break it to you, but EP will be winning this campaign. We've found the way to win and will be exploting it until this campaign ends. It's now up to DC and AD to adapt if they want to win.
Yup Ahtu, the way you are giving away points to AD who hold your scroll, I start to think there could be some exploit. I was very doubtful you literally exploit as there were no signs of OP skills in your group, but now you seem so certain of the win. DC is attacking ypur tri keeps and you gain hardly any ground. Not very convincing. Maybe if you open about your exploit so we sette thismatter here and now
Let me just remind you again that you are 2000 points behind EP, as it seems you have forgotten. The only reason you have that scroll is because you took it while everyone was sleeping. Enjoy it while you can as our revenge will be twice as bad.
I like your ballsy comments but how do you explain that you lost both your scrolls now? FYI, the points difference is 400 to DC and 600 to AD. The game is on.
AD does all the work while DC pvdoors the other camps..DC is being carried by AD and zos, not something I'd brag about
I would say good luck bringing people who either hate CP or hate the PowerPoint gameplay of a campaign we have to Gray Host. Not the DC in Gray Host’s fault that DC in other campaigns aren’t playing in Gray Host. This is mainly a ZOS issue
I agree but gaining 700+ points on the side in first every night just from not playing the game is ridiculous period...The other 2 sides actually put up with the *** show yet dc gets rewarded for not playing
There are X amount of people playing at any given time. If they choose to stack on one faction long enough another faction will get the bonus. Don't be hypocritical I have seen yellow and red also get the bonus quite recently. It's not an issue created by any given faction, it is an issue of the player base not spreading out and representing all factions during all play times. The low pop bonus is the equalizer to players stacking in one faction and PvDooring 1 bar factions for too long of a time. Spread out on all the factions at all times, and watch the low pop bonus disappear.
DC has the pop but they're busy with the other camps, maybe go look..If they weren't winning by absurd numbers in the other camps then I'd buy the whole DC has less players line..
I’m not gonna lie, when I lead VE raids I almost exclusively push EP: not for points but because half the time I push DC there’s no much to fight. Almost All the DC guilds are gone, most of the time I push a DC keep there isn’t much organized resistance. EP makes for better fights right now and that will continue until DC guilds stop bullying the other campaigns.
Campaign only lags when there is an AD ballgroup running around.
Seriously? The whole game lags now, no matter who's running around.
You just aren't paying close enough attention. The lag only starts when ballgroups are running, no matter which faction they play on. They put a tremendous amount of strain on the game.
5 ballgroups fought each other at once in Blackreach last week. Much to my surprise, the game ran pretty good. There were a few hiccups here and there, we had 2 disconnects if I remember right, but it was night and day difference compared to Grey Host.
Not at once. They took turns fighting each other.
The night started with a free for all. And even when turns were being taken some of the fights were 2 groups vs 2 groups. That's close to 50 people doing all the things people say cause lag. Spamming HOTs, timing proxies and ultis, etc.
I'm not saying there aren't people who figure out ways to exploit, cheat, or whatever else. What I do know is that with the ballgroups that showed up that night, things ran relatively fine. So whatever the problem is, nerfing healing or whatever else people say needs to be done to fix lag isn't gunna do it.
Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »
I hate to break it to you, but EP will be winning this campaign. We've found the way to win and will be exploting it until this campaign ends. It's now up to DC and AD to adapt if they want to win.
Yup Ahtu, the way you are giving away points to AD who hold your scroll, I start to think there could be some exploit. I was very doubtful you literally exploit as there were no signs of OP skills in your group, but now you seem so certain of the win. DC is attacking ypur tri keeps and you gain hardly any ground. Not very convincing. Maybe if you open about your exploit so we sette thismatter here and now
Let me just remind you again that you are 2000 points behind EP, as it seems you have forgotten. The only reason you have that scroll is because you took it while everyone was sleeping. Enjoy it while you can as our revenge will be twice as bad.
I like your ballsy comments but how do you explain that you lost both your scrolls now? FYI, the points difference is 400 to DC and 600 to AD. The game is on.
vamp_emily wrote: »@Ahtu
Scrore Update
EP 69973
DC 69712
AD 69556
Keep chest thumping.. i am going to enjoy your excuse when DC or AD wins. I'm sure you will be say, "We lost because AD and DC.. blah blah blah " but whatever your excuse will be it means your "plan" failed.
Campaign only lags when there is an AD ballgroup running around.
Seriously? The whole game lags now, no matter who's running around.
You just aren't paying close enough attention. The lag only starts when ballgroups are running, no matter which faction they play on. They put a tremendous amount of strain on the game.
5 ballgroups fought each other at once in Blackreach last week. Much to my surprise, the game ran pretty good. There were a few hiccups here and there, we had 2 disconnects if I remember right, but it was night and day difference compared to Grey Host.
Not at once. They took turns fighting each other.
The night started with a free for all. And even when turns were being taken some of the fights were 2 groups vs 2 groups. That's close to 50 people doing all the things people say cause lag. Spamming HOTs, timing proxies and ultis, etc.
I'm not saying there aren't people who figure out ways to exploit, cheat, or whatever else. What I do know is that with the ballgroups that showed up that night, things ran relatively fine. So whatever the problem is, nerfing healing or whatever else people say needs to be done to fix lag isn't gunna do it.Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »
I hate to break it to you, but EP will be winning this campaign. We've found the way to win and will be exploting it until this campaign ends. It's now up to DC and AD to adapt if they want to win.
Yup Ahtu, the way you are giving away points to AD who hold your scroll, I start to think there could be some exploit. I was very doubtful you literally exploit as there were no signs of OP skills in your group, but now you seem so certain of the win. DC is attacking ypur tri keeps and you gain hardly any ground. Not very convincing. Maybe if you open about your exploit so we sette thismatter here and now
Let me just remind you again that you are 2000 points behind EP, as it seems you have forgotten. The only reason you have that scroll is because you took it while everyone was sleeping. Enjoy it while you can as our revenge will be twice as bad.
I like your ballsy comments but how do you explain that you lost both your scrolls now? FYI, the points difference is 400 to DC and 600 to AD. The game is on.
Let's see. Oh I know. AD got Volendrung pushed to Arrius/Farra while DC took KC. AD has ball groups running while everyone is asleep and DC took advantage like the cockroaches that they are.
AD then proceeded to gate DC (who put the EP scroll at Warden and have no idea what to do once they actually steal a scroll) and get their scroll taken while we take ours back. AD then proceeds to hold both AD and DC scrolls while everyone is asleep.
The end.
I’m not gonna lie, when I lead VE raids I almost exclusively push EP: not for points but because half the time I push DC there’s no much to fight. Almost All the DC guilds are gone, most of the time I push a DC keep there isn’t much organized resistance. EP makes for better fights right now and that will continue until DC guilds stop bullying the other campaigns.
Liar. You had a meting with your guild Wednesday night and said that it was "punish EP night" with the goal of gating us and you did that. We had no guilds running at the time so don't say that we defended any better than DC.
In fact, DC would give you better fights because they have organized raids running all the time (Iron Legion, Xan's Army, CHSF). At least own up to the fact that you are playing for points (Crown is in your raid who is a scroll fiend so I'm sure he won't shut up about taking scrolls) in 2020 with your 24 man blob which is pathetic. You are going against your raid members' wishes to grab scrolls during prime time instead of farming.
You should have listened to your raid members and gone DC if the DC raids are gone as you claim, maybe it would encourage more players to play DC. EP needs the most help during prime time as our good raids are on the other side of the map which is another reason you should be fighting DC or switch to them. The EP raids are scared of you during prime time and are actively avoiding you because of all the lag you cause.
They will not put up much of a fight especially since I quit playing during prime time due to work/lag. But by all means continue to punish us because we gate AD every day, which I suspect is your true motive.
If all the DC guilds are gone then why go AD?
I’m not gonna lie, when I lead VE raids I almost exclusively push EP: not for points but because half the time I push DC there’s no much to fight. Almost All the DC guilds are gone, most of the time I push a DC keep there isn’t much organized resistance. EP makes for better fights right now and that will continue until DC guilds stop bullying the other campaigns.
Liar. You had a meting with your guild Wednesday night and said that it was "punish EP night" with the goal of gating us and you did that. We had no guilds running at the time so don't say that we defended any better than DC.
In fact, DC would give you better fights because they have organized raids running all the time (Iron Legion, Xan's Army, CHSF). At least own up to the fact that you are playing for points (Crown is in your raid who is a scroll fiend so I'm sure he won't shut up about taking scrolls) in 2020 with your 24 man blob which is pathetic. You are going against your raid members' wishes to grab scrolls during prime time instead of farming.
You should have listened to your raid members and gone DC if the DC raids are gone as you claim, maybe it would encourage more players to play DC. EP needs the most help during prime time as our good raids are on the other side of the map which is another reason you should be fighting DC or switch to them. The EP raids are scared of you during prime time and are actively avoiding you because of all the lag you cause.
They will not put up much of a fight especially since I quit playing during prime time due to work/lag. But by all means continue to punish us because we gate AD every day, which I suspect is your true motive.
If all the DC guilds are gone then why go AD?
First, there was no guild meeting to punish EP. You mishearing a streamer saying “push EP” and understanding it as “punish EP” is not my problem. I usually do make pushes to DC territory and find their responses to be light, which is expected for a 3 bar faction.
That said, the trash talk does encourage me to move north-east! As the great seer once said: “Talk dumb, get the thumb!”
Second, our swap to AD was planned for sometime. We did not foresee DC taking their ball and going home to another campaign. But if history is any indication, the DC horde would magically reappear if we were in DC pushing the map nightly. This is not 2016. We aren’t responsible for faction balance as a guild.
Third, we are absolutely not playing for points. As long as we are taking up 20-24 slots on our faction’s bar we will pay basic attention to our territory. We will not let our scrolls or home keeps go. Our first hour online is usually spent stabilizing the home front and/or dethroning EP. After that it’s go find fights, most of which are on EP because EP actually defends their stuff.
VE has a large number of long-time Vets playing nightly. Our campaign winning days are over, even if I wanted to I don’t think I could drag my guys around to cap resources and keeps before score eval like the old days. No ones interested in that anymore. Winning is fun but we play 3x a week for 3 hours per night. Even if I literally gated EP nightly for 3 hours I would be barely budging the score.
Who hurt thee, Ahtu? I didn’t know you’d miss us this badly.
Lol dc was so busy failing at Chal that they lost all 3 scrolls and didn't even cap Chal
vamp_emily wrote: »
vamp_emily wrote: »
vamp_emily wrote: »
DC has the numbers, they’re just elsewhere at the moment. Who knows, we may eventually go DC again one day. Advantage of our setup is having characters on all factions. But if we let the whims of population fluctuations control us we will be moving everywhere like crazy and that’s not sustainable.
Y’all have plenty of guilds. You have multiple groups our size, plus well-made high tier groups like Drac, Tyr, CB, Vanguard, etc. You guys are fine, as campaign scores for the last year can evidence.
The only real missing factor here is DC abandoning the main campaign last month.
Campaign only lags when there is an AD ballgroup running around.
Seriously? The whole game lags now, no matter who's running around.
You just aren't paying close enough attention. The lag only starts when ballgroups are running, no matter which faction they play on. They put a tremendous amount of strain on the game.
5 ballgroups fought each other at once in Blackreach last week. Much to my surprise, the game ran pretty good. There were a few hiccups here and there, we had 2 disconnects if I remember right, but it was night and day difference compared to Grey Host.
Not at once. They took turns fighting each other.
Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »
Campaign only lags when there is an AD ballgroup running around.
Seriously? The whole game lags now, no matter who's running around.
You just aren't paying close enough attention. The lag only starts when ballgroups are running, no matter which faction they play on. They put a tremendous amount of strain on the game.
5 ballgroups fought each other at once in Blackreach last week. Much to my surprise, the game ran pretty good. There were a few hiccups here and there, we had 2 disconnects if I remember right, but it was night and day difference compared to Grey Host.
Not at once. They took turns fighting each other.
This is incorrect. we had an all vs all at Vlast. Performance was fine.
Campaign only lags when there is an AD ballgroup running around.
Seriously? The whole game lags now, no matter who's running around.
You just aren't paying close enough attention. The lag only starts when ballgroups are running, no matter which faction they play on. They put a tremendous amount of strain on the game.
5 ballgroups fought each other at once in Blackreach last week. Much to my surprise, the game ran pretty good. There were a few hiccups here and there, we had 2 disconnects if I remember right, but it was night and day difference compared to Grey Host.
Not at once. They took turns fighting each other.
The night started with a free for all. And even when turns were being taken some of the fights were 2 groups vs 2 groups. That's close to 50 people doing all the things people say cause lag. Spamming HOTs, timing proxies and ultis, etc.
I'm not saying there aren't people who figure out ways to exploit, cheat, or whatever else. What I do know is that with the ballgroups that showed up that night, things ran relatively fine. So whatever the problem is, nerfing healing or whatever else people say needs to be done to fix lag isn't gunna do it.Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »Minnesinger wrote: »
I hate to break it to you, but EP will be winning this campaign. We've found the way to win and will be exploting it until this campaign ends. It's now up to DC and AD to adapt if they want to win.
Yup Ahtu, the way you are giving away points to AD who hold your scroll, I start to think there could be some exploit. I was very doubtful you literally exploit as there were no signs of OP skills in your group, but now you seem so certain of the win. DC is attacking ypur tri keeps and you gain hardly any ground. Not very convincing. Maybe if you open about your exploit so we sette thismatter here and now
Let me just remind you again that you are 2000 points behind EP, as it seems you have forgotten. The only reason you have that scroll is because you took it while everyone was sleeping. Enjoy it while you can as our revenge will be twice as bad.
I like your ballsy comments but how do you explain that you lost both your scrolls now? FYI, the points difference is 400 to DC and 600 to AD. The game is on.
Let's see. Oh I know. AD got Volendrung pushed to Arrius/Farra while DC took KC. AD has ball groups running while everyone is asleep and DC took advantage like the cockroaches that they are.
AD then proceeded to gate DC (who put the EP scroll at Warden and have no idea what to do once they actually steal a scroll) and get their scroll taken while we take ours back. AD then proceeds to hold both AD and DC scrolls while everyone is asleep.
The end.