The New Titanic Cleave (Master's Greatsword)

Crom_CCCXVI

What is the most you are REALISTICALLY going to hit in PvP verse a Ball Group? 5, 6....

Maybe you charge an enemy flag with a couple bad guys on it get the buff from the guards and then blow up 1 or 2 guys, but this will be few and far between.


and btw, PvP was a lot better the first few years before there was any CC Immunity. An organized group used to be able to hold a keep with siege and good group comp, now the ball group just hits their pots or whatever and it's a pure numbers game..... I would rather take CC immunity totally out of the game unless from a potion. Trolls and Kiters

Sordidfairytale

Highest Cheese I could get:

Urzigurumash

Sordidfairytale wrote: »

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Interesting. Azureblight + Aegis Caller outperforms any flat damage / crit sets?

Sordidfairytale

Urzigurumash wrote: »

Sordidfairytale wrote: »

Highest Cheese I could get:

Interesting. Azureblight + Aegis Caller outperforms any flat damage / crit sets?

I don't know for sure. This is just a stam sorc build I use on trash pack fights. I use it on live, someone was curious what azureblight would do, so I got curious too.

Mayrael

Sandman929 wrote: »

katorga wrote: »

Note we will closely monitor how frequently this allows utter devastation to large groups and will address it appropriately so it is similar in function to Proximity Detonation.

So stamina gets a spammable Proximity Detonation?

Seriously? 8 second delay vs spammable.

Proxy has no target cap and isn't conal

And this is the reason for it to deal 8x times less damage?

Mayrael

So in PvP just roll through group to set them off balance to activate stuhn and cleave them/reverse slice them with blast bones or beetles and dawnbreaker. Yup will be fun for sure to see new "Necro bash" - at least you will have to press more buttons

Anyron

And ofc this is on 2h weapon.. Because why not.. Put off-balance on dizzy and this super op cleave, everything along with very good execute, forward momentum and one of the highest damage dealing ultimate . And magicka can go sit in the corner

Davadin

this plus Ring of Malacath sounds amazing. lol

StShoot

Sandman929 wrote: »

Do people still think ball groups won't use things like this?

As always the players think it will kill ballgroups but at the end the ballgroups will kill them with it.

That thing is totaly overtuned, i cant imagen why zos thought that set needed a buff

SaintSubwayy

try stamDK, and proc corosive on backbar....100% aromorpen

Kingslayer513

Urzigurumash wrote: »

I concur, I've used this device quite a bit in PvP, and besides the guards, it's rare to even get it to the cap it has on live.

CC issues work both ways. You're very likely to get CCd and melted before you even have a chance to swing it if you come up on a 24 man group.

I currently use master's 2H on live. You have to know where to use it. Remember that it scales for each target hit, not just enemy players. I've gotten a 5x multiplier on just one player running a pet sorc zoo build (hitting each pet and summon). Same thing if you attack a resource with a couple enemy players there. A lot of people like to hide behind the guards. Little do they know they're just ramping up my cleave damage.

You gotta play it tactical and that's why this buff is awesome. It's not just an easy "I win" button.

AinSoph

The entirety of Skyreach is quaking in their boots rn.

Giljabrar

BohnT2 wrote: »

Anyone who has ever used master brawler in PvP knows that you will never run into a situation where you can hit 24 people with a single cleave.

Realistically you won't hit more than 8-10 people ever even in really zergy situations.

In PvE there's so few encounters with this many adds stacked that it's probably not viable in most situations.

Bump. Tried a setup with this on live with this a few times. You're rarely if ever going to even hit more than 3-4 opponents with the cone. I saw this buff, went neat, and then moved on. This won't be problematic for PvP. It's basically just as strong on Live as it is on PTS, but you don't see ball groups running it. You see...lol...Fengrush using it.

Giljabrar

Alucardo wrote: »

New stambomb - Turn Evil, Colossus, blastbones into cleave spam like a boss. I'm down. Let's do this.

I've tried this combo on live already, it's somewhat lackluster. You're better off using spin2win.

Even with the buffs on the PTS, it's not going to be super viable.

Urzigurumash

Kingslayer513 wrote: »

I currently use master's 2H on live. You have to know where to use it. Remember that it scales for each target hit, not just enemy players. I've gotten a 5x multiplier on just one player running a pet sorc zoo build (hitting each pet and summon). Same thing if you attack a resource with a couple enemy players there. A lot of people like to hide behind the guards. Little do they know they're just ramping up my cleave damage.

You gotta play it tactical and that's why this buff is awesome. It's not just an easy "I win" button.

Yes, drawing opponents into their guards is mostly what keeps this weapon relevant for solo play in Cyro, for me. It's just not often that 6 PCs will be within its cone for more than 1 swing before they catch on and scurry away. It happens but I can easily go a night of play without once reaching the cap against PCs, and quite easily a full BGs round. When I do manage to pin 6 within its cone, it's great, especially with Corrosive. In other words, Titanic Cleave is extremely strong, but yes, extremely situational. Raising the cap to 24 isn't going to be like giving out Volendrung to everybody.

JinMori

That's rookie numbers, i got into the high 7 million dps. Stacked like 1 iron atro for the buffs and like 100 normal dummies.

Mettaricana

Sorry if im late to party but is this change going live? I haven't heard anyone calling for nerfs or making 70+ posts about it?

Vildebill

Thraben

Mettaricana wrote: »

Sorry if im late to party but is this change going live? I haven't heard anyone calling for nerfs or making 70+ posts about it?

Why should it? As said before, anyone who already uses it will tell you that you will hardly hit more than 6 people with it.

Azureblight Realer is the core of any Stamina Bomb build, and this here is just a bonus for some Necroes and StamSorcs - and for some Magicka classes, if they are clever enough.

eovogtb16_ESO

I mean this set was already OP in PvE. I swear the devs dont play their own game before making these types of changes.