The New Titanic Cleave (Master's Greatsword)

ArtOfShred

So, I decided to try out the new Titanic Cleave scaling on 24 targets:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8IZnz79X4k

(Also you might see I wasn't light weaving and I was just smashing brawler repeatedly, not trying to parse, just seeing big cleave numbers)

Urzigurumash

I can't wait.

Cres

Love it

Kingslayer513

Honestly amazing. Ball groups better spread out

Sandman929

Looks awesome.

redspecter23

Kingslayer513 wrote: »

Honestly amazing. Ball groups better spread out

If this destroys ball groups as well as it looks like it could, I would very much like to see that in action.

Sandman929

Do people still think ball groups won't use things like this?

Sandman929

In terms of stamina groups, I think things like this go a long way to leveling the playing field for stam versus all the tools in magicka

Sleep724

katorga

Note we will closely monitor how frequently this allows utter devastation to large groups and will address it appropriately so it is similar in function to Proximity Detonation.

So stamina gets a spammable Proximity Detonation?

Seriously? 8 second delay vs spammable.

Sandman929

katorga wrote: »

Note we will closely monitor how frequently this allows utter devastation to large groups and will address it appropriately so it is similar in function to Proximity Detonation.

So stamina gets a spammable Proximity Detonation?

Seriously? 8 second delay vs spammable.

Proxy has no target cap and isn't conal

Mettaricana

I love this i love this so friggan much zos adjust it a lil but dont ruin this i friggan love this you've killed twohander a lil bit every single patch dont ruin this mayne cap it at 12 if ya gotta nerf it but i love this so much

Malthorne

Yessir

Kolzki

You need more raid dummies



It can definitely go higher than this with different set choices. 234k is nice though...

Also, the penetration from the perfect version isn't there. All of my pts crates for perfected master sets contain non-perfect weapons.

Kolzki

Ah, i see you had all 24 targets. My bad. It's not an entirely realistic test but this might be a bit strong.

ArtOfShred

Kolzki wrote: »

You need more raid dummies

It can definitely go higher than this with different set choices. 234k is nice though...

Also, the penetration from the perfect version isn't there. All of my pts crates for perfected master sets contain non-perfect weapons.

HAHA excellent, even better. I just quickly threw on some stuff to test, didn't really optimize damage since I'm a bit out of the loop on the meta.

red_emu

Ball groups are already salivating.

Imagine 15 players stacking this. A small group can wipe out a full population stack trying to defend a keep. Pair that with proxy det, ultis and hey ***...you just destroyed Cyro.

Well done ZOS... Well done

Dagoth_Rac

Kingslayer513 wrote: »

Honestly amazing. Ball groups better spread out

Is the Iron Atro a good test? You will not be using this in PvE with every buff and debuff in the game applied. You will be using this in PvP, with damage cut by 50% immediately and a far smaller number of buffs/debuffs active.

Well, maybe you will use it in PvE in that big trash pull in HRC before The Warrior. :-)

Austinseph1

It sounds awesome, but realistically in solo and group play you will will probably have up to 6 targets and they will definitely adjust it as they have said. It won't be insanely strong but it will be fun to try and make a stam bomber lol

BohnT2

Anyone who has ever used master brawler in PvP knows that you will never run into a situation where you can hit 24 people with a single cleave.

Realistically you won't hit more than 8-10 people ever even in really zergy situations.

In PvE there's so few encounters with this many adds stacked that it's probably not viable in most situations.

Kingslayer513

BohnT2 wrote: »

Anyone who has ever used master brawler in PvP knows that you will never run into a situation where you can hit 24 people with a single cleave.

Realistically you won't hit more than 8-10 people ever even in really zergy situations.

In PvE there's so few encounters with this many adds stacked that it's probably not viable in most situations.

That's the beauty of it though. In most big conflicts you'll probably still average out 6 or less people hit per swing. In really zergy situations you might be able to pull off a 10+ hit. And in really rare cases (ball group turtling before an ulti dump) you just might be able to hit up near the cap. And it'll be glorious.

Ratzkifal

The best thing you can hope for is be a NB or vampire and run up to a group trying to loot Molag Bal in IC sewers or standing on a flag. A stamina bomb build

Soul_Demon

BohnT2 wrote: »

Anyone who has ever used master brawler in PvP knows that you will never run into a situation where you can hit 24 people with a single cleave.

Realistically you won't hit more than 8-10 people ever even in really zergy situations.

In PvE there's so few encounters with this many adds stacked that it's probably not viable in most situations.

Well, that was before cc immunity was basically destroyed. Now with the problems that causes, I would say you most certainly will be able to cc a full group to death and unload that on them while they all run out of stam breaking free repeatedly. Just run in duo and have sorc cast encase over and over and over. I win button with that sword for sure.

katorga

Sandman929 wrote: »

katorga wrote: »

Note we will closely monitor how frequently this allows utter devastation to large groups and will address it appropriately so it is similar in function to Proximity Detonation.

So stamina gets a spammable Proximity Detonation?

Seriously? 8 second delay vs spammable.

Proxy has no target cap and isn't conal

ZOS is the one who said "allows utter devastation" and that they will monitor and address it so it functions similar to ProxDet. I can spam and spin in a circle several times in 8 seconds. I like it a LOT.

But there is a reason why ProxDet has effectively an 8 second cool down.

goldenarcher1

Fungal Grotto mudcrabs better watch out!

Finedaible

As amazing as that looks at first, you'll rarely ever see a perfect scenario such as a cluster of carefully placed target dummies. It's time people stopped balancing this game around stationary targets which can't retaliate. [snip]

[edited for content].

Dojohoda

That's some cleavage, for sure.

jadarock

katorga wrote: »

Note we will closely monitor how frequently this allows utter devastation to large groups and will address it appropriately so it is similar in function to Proximity Detonation.

So stamina gets a spammable Proximity Detonation?

Seriously? 8 second delay vs spammable.

cuz zos logic

Alucardo

New stambomb - Turn Evil, Colossus, blastbones into cleave spam like a boss. I'm down. Let's do this.

Davadin

BohnT2 wrote: »

Anyone who has ever used master brawler in PvP knows that you will never run into a situation where you can hit 24 people with a single cleave.

Realistically you won't hit more than 8-10 people ever even in really zergy situations.

In PvE there's so few encounters with this many adds stacked that it's probably not viable in most situations.

agree. i have a master battle axe that i swing in CP PvP, and im first to jump into death.....

even on the most rare occasion, (Alessia bridge, AD ball group storming back flag, Chalman gate, etc.), i couldnt ever touch 15, let alone 20 or 24...

but thats not the point.


the point is this thing will be glorious regardless MWAHAHAHAHAHA

Urzigurumash

I concur, I've used this device quite a bit in PvP, and besides the guards, it's rare to even get it to the cap it has on live.

CC issues work both ways. You're very likely to get CCd and melted before you even have a chance to swing it if you come up on a 24 man group.