PizzaCat82 wrote: »
it's 26% of the vote.... 30% got 1 completed with nothing extra. So 56% got one or both with no cash store.
I'd say it's well within the "norm".
(statistically relevant is <5% (or <1% if being extra precise))
Yeah, well, some people will cling desperately to their alleged personal victimization no matter what statistics are provided. A quick look at the numbers here really flies in the face of the "ZOS is forcing people to buy tickets" narrative. Even in the cases where people did spend crowns, most people only bought one or two additional tickets. I missed two days of the event and still managed to get exactly what I wanted, which didn't include the pet or the memento.
The only acceptable outcome was everyone who "tried" to get the rewards would get them. Just because you're okay with nothing doesn't mean those who invested time in the event deserved the same.
Everyone doesn't get a trophy simply for participating where I come from. Better luck next year.
for events, yes that is the way it is supposed to be. Its not suppose to be a competition, it is supposed to be a celebration. Its supposed to bring back players and keep them not push them away. Please, you may want to ask yourself why you feel the need to defend a company that does not care about you so much.
Christmas is a celebration. Have you gotten everything you've ever wanted for Christmas? Better luck next year, Bob.
even rewards are not gifts. they are rewards for doing event tasks.
PizzaCat82 wrote: »
it's 26% of the vote.... 30% got 1 completed with nothing extra. So 56% got one or both with no cash store.
I'd say it's well within the "norm".
(statistically relevant is <5% (or <1% if being extra precise))
Yeah, well, some people will cling desperately to their alleged personal victimization no matter what statistics are provided. A quick look at the numbers here really flies in the face of the "ZOS is forcing people to buy tickets" narrative. Even in the cases where people did spend crowns, most people only bought one or two additional tickets. I missed two days of the event and still managed to get exactly what I wanted, which didn't include the pet or the memento.
The only acceptable outcome was everyone who "tried" to get the rewards would get them. Just because you're okay with nothing doesn't mean those who invested time in the event deserved the same.
Everyone doesn't get a trophy simply for participating where I come from. Better luck next year.
for events, yes that is the way it is supposed to be. Its not suppose to be a competition, it is supposed to be a celebration. Its supposed to bring back players and keep them not push them away. Please, you may want to ask yourself why you feel the need to defend a company that does not care about you so much.
Christmas is a celebration. Have you gotten everything you've ever wanted for Christmas? Better luck next year, Bob.
You're just making yourself sound like you started playing yesterday and don't have a clue about anything ESO-related.
Is that your intention?
You're just making yourself sound like you're so intent on dismissing people with a different opinion that you have to convince yourself that I can't possibly know anything about ESO. I mean, the alternative is that you're not being victimized and god forbid anyone even consider that.
PizzaCat82 wrote: »
it's 26% of the vote.... 30% got 1 completed with nothing extra. So 56% got one or both with no cash store.
I'd say it's well within the "norm".
(statistically relevant is <5% (or <1% if being extra precise))
Yeah, well, some people will cling desperately to their alleged personal victimization no matter what statistics are provided. A quick look at the numbers here really flies in the face of the "ZOS is forcing people to buy tickets" narrative. Even in the cases where people did spend crowns, most people only bought one or two additional tickets. I missed two days of the event and still managed to get exactly what I wanted, which didn't include the pet or the memento.
The only acceptable outcome was everyone who "tried" to get the rewards would get them. Just because you're okay with nothing doesn't mean those who invested time in the event deserved the same.
Everyone doesn't get a trophy simply for participating where I come from. Better luck next year.
I'm sorry I guess i confused in game event participations with competitions where there can only be one winner and a runnerup or something.
event rewards are NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A COMPETITION. it should be - you put in the work = you get the rewards for it.
now, I hate comparing gaming to jobs, because its not the best comparison, but in this case - its all I have. imagine you have a job. its a company so a whole bunch of people are working with you, you all have the same job description, and the same hours. you all come in, punch in, do the work, punch out. except... your boss decides that they are not going to just pay everyone salary - they are going to roll a dice who gets paid and who doesn't. imagine that roll of the dice didn't favor you and you didn't get paid, while someone next to you - not only got paid, but got a bonus, because dice favored them more. imagine being told that if you want to get that paychek - you need to pay extra for it, or accept that you are not getting a paycheck.
Across 7 accounts I completed both pet and memento on 5 accounts. The sixth account bought all 4 feathers and ended with 4 of each fragment, the 7th account bought all 3 berries and end with the memento and 4 fragments of the pet.
PizzaCat82 wrote: »
it's 26% of the vote.... 30% got 1 completed with nothing extra. So 56% got one or both with no cash store.
I'd say it's well within the "norm".
(statistically relevant is <5% (or <1% if being extra precise))
Yeah, well, some people will cling desperately to their alleged personal victimization no matter what statistics are provided. A quick look at the numbers here really flies in the face of the "ZOS is forcing people to buy tickets" narrative. Even in the cases where people did spend crowns, most people only bought one or two additional tickets. I missed two days of the event and still managed to get exactly what I wanted, which didn't include the pet or the memento.
The only acceptable outcome was everyone who "tried" to get the rewards would get them. Just because you're okay with nothing doesn't mean those who invested time in the event deserved the same.
Everyone doesn't get a trophy simply for participating where I come from. Better luck next year.
for events, yes that is the way it is supposed to be. Its not suppose to be a competition, it is supposed to be a celebration. Its supposed to bring back players and keep them not push them away. Please, you may want to ask yourself why you feel the need to defend a company that does not care about you so much.
Christmas is a celebration. Have you gotten everything you've ever wanted for Christmas? Better luck next year, Bob.
even rewards are not gifts. they are rewards for doing event tasks.
Obviously, you didn't bother to read the post that reply was directed at. I never said rewards were gifts.
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PizzaCat82 wrote: »
it's 26% of the vote.... 30% got 1 completed with nothing extra. So 56% got one or both with no cash store.
I'd say it's well within the "norm".
(statistically relevant is <5% (or <1% if being extra precise))
Yeah, well, some people will cling desperately to their alleged personal victimization no matter what statistics are provided. A quick look at the numbers here really flies in the face of the "ZOS is forcing people to buy tickets" narrative. Even in the cases where people did spend crowns, most people only bought one or two additional tickets. I missed two days of the event and still managed to get exactly what I wanted, which didn't include the pet or the memento.
The only acceptable outcome was everyone who "tried" to get the rewards would get them. Just because you're okay with nothing doesn't mean those who invested time in the event deserved the same.
Everyone doesn't get a trophy simply for participating where I come from. Better luck next year.
for events, yes that is the way it is supposed to be. Its not suppose to be a competition, it is supposed to be a celebration. Its supposed to bring back players and keep them not push them away. Please, you may want to ask yourself why you feel the need to defend a company that does not care about you so much.
Christmas is a celebration. Have you gotten everything you've ever wanted for Christmas? Better luck next year, Bob.
You're just making yourself sound like you started playing yesterday and don't have a clue about anything ESO-related.
Is that your intention?
You're just making yourself sound like you're so intent on dismissing people with a different opinion that you have to convince yourself that I can't possibly know anything about ESO. I mean, the alternative is that you're not being victimized and god forbid anyone even consider that.
I never said, or implied, anything about myself being victimised.
Just to clarify, I am not a victim and I do not feel victimised.
You, on the other hand, don't seem to be able to comprehend that a change has taken place, event-wise, and that has, inevitably, upset the proverbial apple cart.
PizzaCat82 wrote: »
it's 26% of the vote.... 30% got 1 completed with nothing extra. So 56% got one or both with no cash store.
I'd say it's well within the "norm".
(statistically relevant is <5% (or <1% if being extra precise))
Yeah, well, some people will cling desperately to their alleged personal victimization no matter what statistics are provided. A quick look at the numbers here really flies in the face of the "ZOS is forcing people to buy tickets" narrative. Even in the cases where people did spend crowns, most people only bought one or two additional tickets. I missed two days of the event and still managed to get exactly what I wanted, which didn't include the pet or the memento.
The only acceptable outcome was everyone who "tried" to get the rewards would get them. Just because you're okay with nothing doesn't mean those who invested time in the event deserved the same.
Everyone doesn't get a trophy simply for participating where I come from. Better luck next year.
I'm sorry I guess i confused in game event participations with competitions where there can only be one winner and a runnerup or something.
event rewards are NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A COMPETITION. it should be - you put in the work = you get the rewards for it.
now, I hate comparing gaming to jobs, because its not the best comparison, but in this case - its all I have. imagine you have a job. its a company so a whole bunch of people are working with you, you all have the same job description, and the same hours. you all come in, punch in, do the work, punch out. except... your boss decides that they are not going to just pay everyone salary - they are going to roll a dice who gets paid and who doesn't. imagine that roll of the dice didn't favor you and you didn't get paid, while someone next to you - not only got paid, but got a bonus, because dice favored them more. imagine being told that if you want to get that paychek - you need to pay extra for it, or accept that you are not getting a paycheck.
event rewards are NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A COMPETITION. it should be - you put in the work = you get the rewards for it.
Yeah, well, I'm not sure how long you've been around, but life doesn't work that way. You've also failed to specify what you're concept of reward is in this case. I got 3 berries and 2 feathers from this event, which was exactly what I was looking for. So, in my case the work vs reward was pretty satisfactory. And I missed two days.
now, I hate comparing gaming to jobs, because its not the best comparison, but in this case - its all I have. imagine you have a job. its a company so a whole bunch of people are working with you, you all have the same job description, and the same hours. you all come in, punch in, do the work, punch out.
This assumption isn't even true across the playerbase, let alone a company. There are people that go out of their way to grind additional boxes. There are some that don't. There are people that have left over tickets. There are people who aren't interested in the Indrik. There are people who aren't interested in the grave stake memento.
I also find pretending that spending less than 5 minutes to kill a mob in Murkmire for 3 tickets is some how analogous with a job profoundly amusing.
your boss decides that they are not going to just pay everyone salary - they are going to roll a dice who gets paid and who doesn't. imagine that roll of the dice didn't favor you and you didn't get paid, while someone next to you - not only got paid, but got a bonus, because dice favored them more. imagine being told that if you want to get that paychek - you need to pay extra for it, or accept that you are not getting a paycheck.
What makes this a bad analogy is there is no mention of the free 39 tickets and there is this assumption with your point, as there is with everyone arguing this point, that everyone is going for the same goal - they aren't. Not only that, but what is the goal? Is it both the pet and the memento? Is it the pet, memento and the berry? Is it the pet, the feathers, the berries and the memento? No one can seem to agree on what it is supposed to be, yet they keep on tacking on these things that they are supposed to be entitled to during the Murkmire event in order to further hammer their point about being victimized.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***
PizzaCat82 wrote: »
it's 26% of the vote.... 30% got 1 completed with nothing extra. So 56% got one or both with no cash store.
I'd say it's well within the "norm".
(statistically relevant is <5% (or <1% if being extra precise))
Yeah, well, some people will cling desperately to their alleged personal victimization no matter what statistics are provided. A quick look at the numbers here really flies in the face of the "ZOS is forcing people to buy tickets" narrative. Even in the cases where people did spend crowns, most people only bought one or two additional tickets. I missed two days of the event and still managed to get exactly what I wanted, which didn't include the pet or the memento.
The only acceptable outcome was everyone who "tried" to get the rewards would get them. Just because you're okay with nothing doesn't mean those who invested time in the event deserved the same.
Everyone doesn't get a trophy simply for participating where I come from. Better luck next year.
for events, yes that is the way it is supposed to be. Its not suppose to be a competition, it is supposed to be a celebration. Its supposed to bring back players and keep them not push them away. Please, you may want to ask yourself why you feel the need to defend a company that does not care about you so much.
Christmas is a celebration. Have you gotten everything you've ever wanted for Christmas? Better luck next year, Bob.
You're just making yourself sound like you started playing yesterday and don't have a clue about anything ESO-related.
Is that your intention?
You're just making yourself sound like you're so intent on dismissing people with a different opinion that you have to convince yourself that I can't possibly know anything about ESO. I mean, the alternative is that you're not being victimized and god forbid anyone even consider that.
I never said, or implied, anything about myself being victimised.
Just to clarify, I am not a victim and I do not feel victimised.
You, on the other hand, don't seem to be able to comprehend that a change has taken place, event-wise, and that has, inevitably, upset the proverbial apple cart.
You don't seem to be able to comprehend that the reason that a change has taken place, event-wise, is because people have been screeching on this forum and not because ZOS is predatory.
You don't want your inventory filled with useless memento pieces? Solved
You don't want FPS drops because of player concentration? Solved
You want more to spend your tickets on besides the Indrik mount? Solved
Now, you can acknowledge that, or you can continue to push this idea that it just got randomly changed on a whim simply because someone wanted to make more money. ZOS gave in to the screechers and made a heavy handed change - what else is new?
PizzaCat82 wrote: »
it's 26% of the vote.... 30% got 1 completed with nothing extra. So 56% got one or both with no cash store.
I'd say it's well within the "norm".
(statistically relevant is <5% (or <1% if being extra precise))
Yeah, well, some people will cling desperately to their alleged personal victimization no matter what statistics are provided. A quick look at the numbers here really flies in the face of the "ZOS is forcing people to buy tickets" narrative. Even in the cases where people did spend crowns, most people only bought one or two additional tickets. I missed two days of the event and still managed to get exactly what I wanted, which didn't include the pet or the memento.
The only acceptable outcome was everyone who "tried" to get the rewards would get them. Just because you're okay with nothing doesn't mean those who invested time in the event deserved the same.
Everyone doesn't get a trophy simply for participating where I come from. Better luck next year.
for events, yes that is the way it is supposed to be. Its not suppose to be a competition, it is supposed to be a celebration. Its supposed to bring back players and keep them not push them away. Please, you may want to ask yourself why you feel the need to defend a company that does not care about you so much.
Christmas is a celebration. Have you gotten everything you've ever wanted for Christmas? Better luck next year, Bob.
You're just making yourself sound like you started playing yesterday and don't have a clue about anything ESO-related.
Is that your intention?
You're just making yourself sound like you're so intent on dismissing people with a different opinion that you have to convince yourself that I can't possibly know anything about ESO. I mean, the alternative is that you're not being victimized and god forbid anyone even consider that.
I never said, or implied, anything about myself being victimised.
Just to clarify, I am not a victim and I do not feel victimised.
You, on the other hand, don't seem to be able to comprehend that a change has taken place, event-wise, and that has, inevitably, upset the proverbial apple cart.
You don't seem to be able to comprehend that the reason that a change has taken place, event-wise, is because people have been screeching on this forum and not because ZOS is predatory.
You don't want your inventory filled with useless memento pieces? Solved
You don't want FPS drops because of player concentration? Solved
You want more to spend your tickets on besides the Indrik mount? Solved
Now, you can acknowledge that, or you can continue to push this idea that it just got randomly changed on a whim simply because someone wanted to make more money. ZOS gave in to the screechers and made a heavy handed change - what else is new?
I give up.
It's like talking to a brick wall.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***
PizzaCat82 wrote: »
it's 26% of the vote.... 30% got 1 completed with nothing extra. So 56% got one or both with no cash store.
I'd say it's well within the "norm".
(statistically relevant is <5% (or <1% if being extra precise))
Yeah, well, some people will cling desperately to their alleged personal victimization no matter what statistics are provided. A quick look at the numbers here really flies in the face of the "ZOS is forcing people to buy tickets" narrative. Even in the cases where people did spend crowns, most people only bought one or two additional tickets. I missed two days of the event and still managed to get exactly what I wanted, which didn't include the pet or the memento.
The only acceptable outcome was everyone who "tried" to get the rewards would get them. Just because you're okay with nothing doesn't mean those who invested time in the event deserved the same.
Everyone doesn't get a trophy simply for participating where I come from. Better luck next year.
for events, yes that is the way it is supposed to be. Its not suppose to be a competition, it is supposed to be a celebration. Its supposed to bring back players and keep them not push them away. Please, you may want to ask yourself why you feel the need to defend a company that does not care about you so much.
Christmas is a celebration. Have you gotten everything you've ever wanted for Christmas? Better luck next year, Bob.
You're just making yourself sound like you started playing yesterday and don't have a clue about anything ESO-related.
Is that your intention?
You're just making yourself sound like you're so intent on dismissing people with a different opinion that you have to convince yourself that I can't possibly know anything about ESO. I mean, the alternative is that you're not being victimized and god forbid anyone even consider that.
I never said, or implied, anything about myself being victimised.
Just to clarify, I am not a victim and I do not feel victimised.
You, on the other hand, don't seem to be able to comprehend that a change has taken place, event-wise, and that has, inevitably, upset the proverbial apple cart.
You don't seem to be able to comprehend that the reason that a change has taken place, event-wise, is because people have been screeching on this forum and not because ZOS is predatory.
You don't want your inventory filled with useless memento pieces? Solved
You don't want FPS drops because of player concentration? Solved
You want more to spend your tickets on besides the Indrik mount? Solved
Now, you can acknowledge that, or you can continue to push this idea that it just got randomly changed on a whim simply because someone wanted to make more money. ZOS gave in to the screechers and made a heavy handed change - what else is new?
I thought you could get 39 tickets during the Murkmire event? I know I missed two event days due to traveling. Didn't Murkmire start on the 20th and end on the 3rd?
and before they try to defend their lie. 33 event tickets plus maximum of 12 going into event. each feather and berry cost 10 tickets, so they would need 50, while by their own admission they only got best case scenario 33+12=45.
Ye_Olde_Crowe wrote: »I thought you could get 39 tickets during the Murkmire event? I know I missed two event days due to traveling. Didn't Murkmire start on the 20th and end on the 3rd?
and before they try to defend their lie. 33 event tickets plus maximum of 12 going into event. each feather and berry cost 10 tickets, so they would need 50, while by their own admission they only got best case scenario 33+12=45.
I got 3 berries and 2 feathers from this event, which was exactly what I was looking for. … And I missed two days.
I've puzzled about this, too, because the maths don't add up for me either. I failed to get the final pet fragment on the last day so I bought two crown store tickets and used my last three 'earned' tickets to get the final fragment. That means I earned another 36 tickets during the event (I didn't miss any days). I'm sure I came into the event with only a handful of leftover tickets but, even if I had the maximum twelve, it would still only give me 48 tickets.
I bought four feathers (and summoned the Nascent Indrik) and two pet fragments (in addition to the final day one) = 50 tickets.
I know I must be mistaken somehow but I don't understand how.
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