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[Murkmire Celebration] What's your final score

  • tmbrinks
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    2 collectibles completed, used free tickets only
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    Tatanko wrote: »
    I went to PAX East and still managed to get the next Indrik berry and both collectibles with 3 extra tickets this morning before the event ends on top of it all.

    well you got lucky. That was no where near the norm as you can see

    it's 26% of the vote.... 30% got 1 completed with nothing extra. So 56% got one or both with no cash store.

    I'd say it's well within the "norm".

    (statistically relevant is <5% (or <1% if being extra precise))
    Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra Destroyer
    The Unchained - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger
    65,385 achievement points
  • pod88kk
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    No collectibles completed
    I didn't even go to the Impresario to see what was offer
  • PizzaCat82
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    1 collectible completed, used free tickets only
    They have experts with spreadsheets that will come in and determine whats the best RNG for getting people to buy tickets for events. If you think this one was bad, I'm positive this is a sign of things to come.

    I got 0 fragments the entire last week of the event. 5 days with nothing but plunder and crap. Its a waste of my time, and made me not want to do anything in Murkmire. Crafting nodes? I'd have to contend with 500 other farmers and hope to get lucky. Questing and dailies? There wasn't anything new to do.

    So in esssence they could have made this event fun and had better drop rates, the ability to sell fragments, and put boxes in rewards from dailies instead of making them random from any mob.

    But some guy with a spreadsheet said they'd get more ticket sales from the crown store if they only pissed off 25% of the playerbase. A fair trade, it seems.
  • GenjiraX
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    2 collectibles completed, used crown store tickets
    55 mins to go and I just need one more pet fragment to avoid having to buy two tickets.

    EDIT: Gave up, bought the tickets.
    Edited by GenjiraX on March 3, 2020 2:31PM
  • Brandathorbel
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    1 collectible completed, used free tickets only
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    Tatanko wrote: »
    I went to PAX East and still managed to get the next Indrik berry and both collectibles with 3 extra tickets this morning before the event ends on top of it all.

    well you got lucky. That was no where near the norm as you can see

    it's 26% of the vote.... 30% got 1 completed with nothing extra. So 56% got one or both with no cash store.

    I'd say it's well within the "norm".

    (statistically relevant is <5% (or <1% if being extra precise))

    it really isnt because in prior events most people got everything.
  • tomofhyrule
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    1 collectible completed, used free tickets only
    Got the flubber, but I did have to buy some parts from the Impresario. No crown tix, though.

    I'm still 3 fragments short for the stake, but not really that necessary for me. But now I have almost a full set of tickets for whatever she has next. Hope it's something fun.

    I know I'm probably gonna need them in the next event since she'll probably have a lot of fun stuff for anniversary.
  • Kahnak
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    No collectibles completed
    Didn't care about the pet or the memento. Used all my tickets to get all 3 berries and another Indrik feather.
    Tombstone Reads: "Forgot to get good"
  • DaveMoeDee
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    1 collectible completed, used free tickets only
    Spent 1 ticket on pet to complete it. Got 3 fragments for the memento, but I'm not going to waste tickets on a memento. Bought a few feathers instead for next nascent for Icebreath Indrik (I have 3/4 as of the end of the event). I already have nascent for spectral.

    I am ending event with 11 tickets.

    I consider my luck to have been pretty good with 9 fragments. I did spend a few hours trying to kill trash for another strongbox but that amounted to nothing.
  • Ingenon
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    1 collectible completed, used free tickets only
    Got the pet, the berry, and a feather using free tickets. My main/crafter is now a Hero of Murkmire and knows all the motif that drop from the WB and delve quests. Overall happy.
  • krachall
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    No collectibles completed
    I have no interest in either mementos or non-combat pets so I didn’t buy any fragments. But I did get a box every day, including this morning before the event closed. I got one extra box as well.

    Memento: 5 fragments
    Pet: 2 fragments.

  • Kahnak
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    Tatanko wrote: »
    I went to PAX East and still managed to get the next Indrik berry and both collectibles with 3 extra tickets this morning before the event ends on top of it all.

    well you got lucky. That was no where near the norm as you can see

    it's 26% of the vote.... 30% got 1 completed with nothing extra. So 56% got one or both with no cash store.

    I'd say it's well within the "norm".

    (statistically relevant is <5% (or <1% if being extra precise))

    Yeah, well, some people will cling desperately to their alleged personal victimization no matter what statistics are provided. A quick look at the numbers here really flies in the face of the "ZOS is forcing people to buy tickets" narrative. Even in the cases where people did spend crowns, most people only bought one or two additional tickets. I missed two days of the event and still managed to get exactly what I wanted, which didn't include the pet or the memento.
    Tombstone Reads: "Forgot to get good"
  • Vercingetorix
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    2 collectibles completed, used free tickets only
    Logged on earlier this morning to secure my last 3 tickets. My last strongbox gave me 1 of the last 3 pieces I needed for the pet. I bought the last 2 pieces with my tickets and got the pet. Managed to get memento earlier in the event through strongbox drops and accumulated tickets through the event. I think I got fairly lucky - had some days where I only got plunder or a motif page instead of a fragment. Didn't need to buy tickets from Crown Store.
    “Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
  • Grianasteri
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    Just an idea here... but I actually have enough tickets, from memory, to purchase the final Voriplasm piece, yet I wont be able to because the event is over... I wont get home today until 6pm ish, I understand the event ends at 3pm.

    I just ran out of time last night and had to log off :(

    Wouldnt it be better if the event trader remained post event, for at least a while, so that people in similar circumstances can actually use the tickets they got if they want to?

    No further ticket drops etc, but let me spend my tickets ZOS...
  • Kalik_Gold
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    No collectibles completed
    ended with 4/12 Tickets

    5/7 Voriplasm Pet
    4/7 Gravestone

    Used my tickets to complete a Nascent Indrik I needed, to use the Snow Indrik.
    Main: (PvP & PvE)
    Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige

    PvP:
    Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
    Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
    Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
    Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
    Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer

    PvP: (Specialty)
    Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
    Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
    Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
    Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden

    PvE:
    Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
    Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
    Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
    Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
    Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade

    Leveling...
    Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
    Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
    Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
    ======
    Passives of another race used. (RP)
    *Breton
    **Imperial




    __________________________Backstories:_________________________

    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

    Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
    PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion

  • PizzaCat82
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    1 collectible completed, used free tickets only
    Kahnak wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    Tatanko wrote: »
    I went to PAX East and still managed to get the next Indrik berry and both collectibles with 3 extra tickets this morning before the event ends on top of it all.

    well you got lucky. That was no where near the norm as you can see

    it's 26% of the vote.... 30% got 1 completed with nothing extra. So 56% got one or both with no cash store.

    I'd say it's well within the "norm".

    (statistically relevant is <5% (or <1% if being extra precise))

    Yeah, well, some people will cling desperately to their alleged personal victimization no matter what statistics are provided. A quick look at the numbers here really flies in the face of the "ZOS is forcing people to buy tickets" narrative. Even in the cases where people did spend crowns, most people only bought one or two additional tickets. I missed two days of the event and still managed to get exactly what I wanted, which didn't include the pet or the memento.

    The only acceptable outcome was everyone who "tried" to get the rewards would get them. Just because you're okay with nothing doesn't mean those who invested time in the event deserved the same.
  • kringled_1
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    1 collectible completed, used free tickets only
    My vote matches my main account on NA which didn't have great luck. 13 days, got 6 fragments, only 2 for the pet which I completed with free tickets. Fortunately this account is well ahead on tickets overall.
    On EU I did much better, I got 10 fragments in all, completed the pet with free tickets and completed the memento with drops. For my second NA account, luck was also reasonable, I got 9 fragments in 11 days (4 pet, 5 memento) and completed the pet with free tickets again.
  • theskymoves
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    2 collectibles completed, used free tickets only
    Started the event with 12 tickets, four feathers, and just needed the new berry, so spent tix on fragments to keep from 'losing' them... I'll never use the pet or memento, but at least they won't be nagging uncompleted at my OCD, from the Collections page. Ended the event with 11 tix; that will buy the final berry in the next(?) event.
  • huntgod_ESO
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    2 collectibles completed, used crown store tickets
    For the guys looking at the numbers in this admittedly small sample size...

    21% were unable to complete either the memento or pet, so 1 in 5.

    36% were only able to complete 1 of the memento or pet, so almost 2 in 5.

    So 57%, over half the participants were unable to complete all the rewards.

    Only 24% were able to complete all the rewards without spending real money, slightly more than those that couldn't complete any.

    2%, like myself, used real money to buy tickets to make up the RNG shortfall.

    These numbers are actually worse when you take into account, 11% indicated they didn't participate.

    These numbers should not be skewing toward even distribution, if they are, then that is pretty specious on Zeni's part.

    The number should load toward the 24% that were able to complete both without buying tickets.

    I would expect a distribution where those that got everything using the daily tickets and drops should be in the 80% or higher range, with 10-15% in the able to get 1 and the unable to complete any should be an outlier in the 2% range, where those who spent money currently exist.

    Though of course ideally, no one should have been put in a position to have to purchase tickets to receive the even rewards.
    --- HuntGod ---
    Officer of the Unrepentant
    www.unrepentantgaming.com
  • Kahnak
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    No collectibles completed
    PizzaCat82 wrote: »
    Kahnak wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    Tatanko wrote: »
    I went to PAX East and still managed to get the next Indrik berry and both collectibles with 3 extra tickets this morning before the event ends on top of it all.

    well you got lucky. That was no where near the norm as you can see

    it's 26% of the vote.... 30% got 1 completed with nothing extra. So 56% got one or both with no cash store.

    I'd say it's well within the "norm".

    (statistically relevant is <5% (or <1% if being extra precise))

    Yeah, well, some people will cling desperately to their alleged personal victimization no matter what statistics are provided. A quick look at the numbers here really flies in the face of the "ZOS is forcing people to buy tickets" narrative. Even in the cases where people did spend crowns, most people only bought one or two additional tickets. I missed two days of the event and still managed to get exactly what I wanted, which didn't include the pet or the memento.

    The only acceptable outcome was everyone who "tried" to get the rewards would get them. Just because you're okay with nothing doesn't mean those who invested time in the event deserved the same.

    Everyone doesn't get a trophy simply for participating where I come from. Better luck next year.
    Tombstone Reads: "Forgot to get good"
  • Thrasher91604
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    2 collectibles completed, used free tickets only
    With fragment drops from the daily crates and the free daily tix got both collectibles with 9 tix to spare. I only got 2 extra crates during the event. But neither had fragments. Didn’t spend extra time farming crates, just did about 5 daily quests a day.
  • Narvuntien
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    1 collectible completed, used free tickets only
    I could have done it but I had a busy weekend, real life is more important.
  • Starlock
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    1 collectible completed, used free tickets only
    While I expected a ratcheting up of predatory monetization in this game, I didn't expect blatant coercion.

    As much as I find offering event tickets in the cash shop to be objectionable in of itself, I can grant a reluctant pass to offering them provided their purchase is genuinely optional to complete an event. To put this another way, it is begrudgingly acceptable (though hardly ideal) to offer event tickets in the cash shop provided it is possible for ALL players to complete event rewards by simply playing the game for a reasonable amount of time.

    This event was something different. It was NOT possible for ALL players to complete event rewards by simply playing the game for a reasonable amount of time. This is a blatantly coercive attempt to force customers into the cash shop to win event rewards. This is about the WORST form of predatory monetization a video game can have in it. Deliberate coercion of a customer like this is straight up a con game and if it isn't already illegal, should be.
  • Cage_Lizardman
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    No collectibles completed
    Missing two on the grave stake and three on the pet. Got boxes all days I think, even two on a few days. I used no tickets for parts since I didn't care that much.

    Also got 10 scuttleblooms, which was the main thing I spent time farming for :)
  • Brandathorbel
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    1 collectible completed, used free tickets only
    Kahnak wrote: »
    PizzaCat82 wrote: »
    Kahnak wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    Tatanko wrote: »
    I went to PAX East and still managed to get the next Indrik berry and both collectibles with 3 extra tickets this morning before the event ends on top of it all.

    well you got lucky. That was no where near the norm as you can see

    it's 26% of the vote.... 30% got 1 completed with nothing extra. So 56% got one or both with no cash store.

    I'd say it's well within the "norm".

    (statistically relevant is <5% (or <1% if being extra precise))

    Yeah, well, some people will cling desperately to their alleged personal victimization no matter what statistics are provided. A quick look at the numbers here really flies in the face of the "ZOS is forcing people to buy tickets" narrative. Even in the cases where people did spend crowns, most people only bought one or two additional tickets. I missed two days of the event and still managed to get exactly what I wanted, which didn't include the pet or the memento.

    The only acceptable outcome was everyone who "tried" to get the rewards would get them. Just because you're okay with nothing doesn't mean those who invested time in the event deserved the same.

    Everyone doesn't get a trophy simply for participating where I come from. Better luck next year.

    for events, yes that is the way it is supposed to be. Its not suppose to be a competition, it is supposed to be a celebration. Its supposed to bring back players and keep them not push them away. Please, you may want to ask yourself why you feel the need to defend a company that does not care about you so much.
  • Enemy-of-Coldharbour
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    Voriplasm pet completed, 50% from tickets/50% from crates

    Grave Stake (not completed) - bought one piece with tickets, found all but last two pieces in crates

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  • Neoealth
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    Needed 2 parts of the slime pet. So spent 10 free tickets to get them before the event was finished. Also bought a feather to make another basic indrik, but not sure if you meant that to be a collectable in your poll.
  • freespirit
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    I ended up with 4 parts of each, got my berry, made sure I have 10 tickets for 4th berry, and have nascent ready for conversion.

    Next event I will make sure I get the Spectral pet too......

    Next year I may get the remaining parts, I refuse to spend my crowns on stuff I feel should be earnable in game! :(
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  • Kahnak
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    xbobx15 wrote: »
    Kahnak wrote: »
    PizzaCat82 wrote: »
    Kahnak wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    Tatanko wrote: »
    I went to PAX East and still managed to get the next Indrik berry and both collectibles with 3 extra tickets this morning before the event ends on top of it all.

    well you got lucky. That was no where near the norm as you can see

    it's 26% of the vote.... 30% got 1 completed with nothing extra. So 56% got one or both with no cash store.

    I'd say it's well within the "norm".

    (statistically relevant is <5% (or <1% if being extra precise))

    Yeah, well, some people will cling desperately to their alleged personal victimization no matter what statistics are provided. A quick look at the numbers here really flies in the face of the "ZOS is forcing people to buy tickets" narrative. Even in the cases where people did spend crowns, most people only bought one or two additional tickets. I missed two days of the event and still managed to get exactly what I wanted, which didn't include the pet or the memento.

    The only acceptable outcome was everyone who "tried" to get the rewards would get them. Just because you're okay with nothing doesn't mean those who invested time in the event deserved the same.

    Everyone doesn't get a trophy simply for participating where I come from. Better luck next year.

    for events, yes that is the way it is supposed to be. Its not suppose to be a competition, it is supposed to be a celebration. Its supposed to bring back players and keep them not push them away. Please, you may want to ask yourself why you feel the need to defend a company that does not care about you so much.

    Christmas is a celebration. Have you gotten everything you've ever wanted for Christmas? Better luck next year, Bob.
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  • driosketch
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    I bought the berry and a 4th feather, and used my remaining tickets to buy three fragments. I think I got 3-4 second crates, though I didn't really farm for them. I ran different characters to collect sky shards and got lucky a few times. However, after I completed the blob pet, I got no more fragments, and so was two shy of getting the memento.

    Additional quirk with this event. A few days I had to kill a bunch of enemies before I could even get loot to drop, let alone my daily tickets. There are 7 NPCs near the SE sky shard who wouldn't leave a yellow outline between them.
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  • Kahnak
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    Starlock wrote: »
    While I expected a ratcheting up of predatory monetization in this game, I didn't expect blatant coercion.

    As much as I find offering event tickets in the cash shop to be objectionable in of itself, I can grant a reluctant pass to offering them provided their purchase is genuinely optional to complete an event. To put this another way, it is begrudgingly acceptable (though hardly ideal) to offer event tickets in the cash shop provided it is possible for ALL players to complete event rewards by simply playing the game for a reasonable amount of time.

    This event was something different. It was NOT possible for ALL players to complete event rewards by simply playing the game for a reasonable amount of time. This is a blatantly coercive attempt to force customers into the cash shop to win event rewards. This is about the WORST form of predatory monetization a video game can have in it. Deliberate coercion of a customer like this is straight up a con game and if it isn't already illegal, should be.

    Coercion
    noun
    1.the act of coercing; use of force or intimidation to obtain compliance.

    2.force or the power to use force in gaining compliance, as by a government or police force.

    Coercion, huh? Ok.
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