ESO Needs Better Motif.

Banana

I've given up collecting them as I only wear costumes

madeeh91rwb17_ESO

StormeReigns wrote: »

Dang. Was so hoping to make a Nord wearing a kilt with only greatsword. Can't now because it is terrible design to make skirts and something, something Final Fantasy and 2 handed swords are for weebs.

I don't have issue with your kilt.

Never said the thins I've mentioned shouldn't exist at all.
Rather that, those things shouldn't become most of what exists.

robpr

My only gripe is there so little long skirt style pants, so you can't make custom robe. Chest piece robe overrides the lower part. You can only use light Daedric and Sapiarch for that.

Faulgor

There has been at least one motif every year that I really liked, so it seems fine to me. Still need to get Meridian and Stags of Z'en.

What I miss are some proper mage robes, though. And more plain, high quality styles like the Knight of Circles.

danara

Actually, i think the lasts that came out lately are pretty good ! (Moongrave is incredible, i like Z'en, Dragonguard...)

Nemesis7884

the main challenge with motifs is simply that all individual pieces of all motifs need to work together with all other motif piecs without clipping and issues and this simply limits a lot what you can do...

ArchMikem

madeeh91rwb17_ESO wrote: »

StormeReigns wrote: »

Dang. Was so hoping to make a Nord wearing a kilt with only greatsword. Can't now because it is terrible design to make skirts and something, something Final Fantasy and 2 handed swords are for weebs.

I don't have issue with your kilt.

Never said the thins I've mentioned shouldn't exist at all.
Rather that, those things shouldn't become most of what exists.

What do you consider skirts? Knee length, or calf/ankle length? Cause as far as I know, the only actual skirt crafting style the game has is Mazzatun. Every other "skirt" goes to the mid calf or ankle like Dark Brotherhood light or Telvanni medium, and all of them have pants on underneath.

gepe87

I like base racial motifs, apostle, refabricated and mazzatun

zaria

ArchMikem wrote: »

madeeh91rwb17_ESO wrote: »

StormeReigns wrote: »

Dang. Was so hoping to make a Nord wearing a kilt with only greatsword. Can't now because it is terrible design to make skirts and something, something Final Fantasy and 2 handed swords are for weebs.

I don't have issue with your kilt.

Never said the thins I've mentioned shouldn't exist at all.
Rather that, those things shouldn't become most of what exists.

What do you consider skirts? Knee length, or calf/ankle length? Cause as far as I know, the only actual skirt crafting style the game has is Mazzatun. Every other "skirt" goes to the mid calf or ankle like Dark Brotherhood light or Telvanni medium, and all of them have pants on underneath.

quite a few more
https://eso-motifs.mmo-fashion.com/search/?f=search&ptb-search=1&appearance_leg[0]=skirt

But yes skirt + pants is more common
https://eso-motifs.mmo-fashion.com/search/?f=search&ptb-search=1&ptb_page=1&appearance_leg[]=skirt-pants

One issue here is that the skirt tend to be an copy of the bottom of robe making the bottom an bit irrelevant

bodge2372

What I think we really need is, like the head, hidden chest and shoulder slots. And the removal of those annoying hip flaps....

Bucky_13

What we need is to be able to hide those awful looking hip and butt flaps. And shoulders.

xXMeowMeowXx

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

It would be nice if they made more realistic looking gear.

You will have that option with PvP completing ‘The Knight of the Circle Armor’

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-tyFg0lrto8

Thnx to the content creator Tianlein that went to the effort to showcase it

Veinblood1965

I think we should have a Saucy Jack themed motif, just my opinion but love the outfit.

Netheniel

I would like to see more realistic and simplistic motifs. When it comes to armor, the Warden outfit is IMO the best looking of the bunch. It has a nice fit with good shaders. Other armors I find don't have a natural fit to the player (ex: floating arm/knee caps and belts), have metal parts that have dull shaders, or leather that appears wet. Weapons are also a bit on the flamboyant side. Often boasting large crossguards on the swords and very thick/large blades. I much prefer the swords used in the trailers. Nice, thin, and a lot more authentic. I'd love to see proper weapons and armor sets used in those trailers. And give those blades proper reflections and shininess.

preevious

FabresFour wrote: »

look at this,

By the gods .. that motif is AWESOME !

kind_hero

There are plenty of motifs with spikes, bones, or fur patches. There are loads of evil themed motifs. I want motifs which use different themes or expand some of the less represented ones.

My complaint with the ESO motifs is the presence of floating hip flaps on almost every motif. You can use the hand fingers to count the ones which don't have flaps. OK, I get it, someone in the art department likes flaps, but the way the hip flaps float and move while my char is running is annoying and immersion breaking for me. I would like more motifs without hip flaps and crotch rags. The light armor should not have flaps at all... it is just cloth. What is the function of these flaps anyway?

If you create a motif that has 3 variants... light, medium, heavy.. then make the light armor... light! Two of my chars are magicka based, so I want to make a proper mage outfit, and for that I have less options than if I want to make a brute warrior/assassin, evil dude dressed in black armor with spikes and fangs all over.

Also people keep asking for a hide shoulder option. Or just make a motif which has a cloth armband "shoulder piece" which can be hidden easy under chestpieces.

My favourite motifs include: Order of the Hour, Trinimac, Wood-Elf, Ebony, Silver Dawn, Mazzatun, Grim Harlequin, Refabricated. I would like Glass more if not those floating hip flaps.

ArchMikem

zaria wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

madeeh91rwb17_ESO wrote: »

StormeReigns wrote: »

Dang. Was so hoping to make a Nord wearing a kilt with only greatsword. Can't now because it is terrible design to make skirts and something, something Final Fantasy and 2 handed swords are for weebs.

I don't have issue with your kilt.

Never said the thins I've mentioned shouldn't exist at all.
Rather that, those things shouldn't become most of what exists.

What do you consider skirts? Knee length, or calf/ankle length? Cause as far as I know, the only actual skirt crafting style the game has is Mazzatun. Every other "skirt" goes to the mid calf or ankle like Dark Brotherhood light or Telvanni medium, and all of them have pants on underneath.

quite a few more
https://eso-motifs.mmo-fashion.com/search/?f=search&ptb-search=1&appearance_leg[0]=skirt

But yes skirt + pants is more common. One issue here is that the skirt tend to be an copy of the bottom of robe making the bottom an bit irrelevant

So there are 9 styles that have skirt-like legs. Though Mazzatun remains the only style to have the most commonly known design of a skirt, which is knee length or higher and has nothing underneath. Well actually no, I guess Elder Argonian counts as well.

craybest

I like the sunspire ones and a newer one I forgot the name (it's right before sunspire one in the previews)

sh_shatter

I second the crotch flap and tasset guy, it looks terrible. You know what else looks terrible? God damn boobie armor, like pyandonean, or moongrave. Why does male armor look ok and ladies have these additional exoskeleton bras

wild_kmacdb16_ESO

Yeah I'm definitely a 'more is less' kind of person; most of my outfits revolve around the base racial styles available since launch. Boring to some I'm sure but I will take it over looking like a 'Power Rangers' villain or some derivative.

madeeh91rwb17_ESO

sh_shatter wrote: »

I second the crotch flap and tasset guy, it looks terrible. You know what else looks terrible? God damn boobie armor, like pyandonean, or moongrave. Why does male armor look ok and ladies have these additional exoskeleton bras

Allow me to introduce: "Codpiece"

If more women fought in History, booby armor would probably be a thing. Probably

Grianasteri

madeeh91rwb17_ESO wrote: »

DLC after DLC, including motif after motif.(that's not my complain btw)...
And yet feels like its been an eternity, since I last saw a proper awesome looking motif.(plenty of meh ones tough)

I am TIRED of skirt-looking leg motifs, and "final fantasy/grim reaper" looking impractical GreatSwords.
It's been years, and most of my chars are still rocking the darkbrotherhood legs and ebony GreatSword motifs.

ZOS need to come up with some proper new designs that fit in the universe and don't look outright ridiculous.

Instead we have [snip] legion zero type stuff.
Even friggin Skyrim had better looking options

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I am absolutely with you on the need for more variety and higher quality looking gear.

However I also acknowledge that in actual fact ESO has a quite ridiculous level of variety already! So the issue is not nearly as pronounced as some claim. What is more of an issue, is actually unlocking that variety and perhaps some reworking could be considered in that respect to make the aesthetics more easily accessible.

I also agree that of late, for some time now actually, the gear has been getting more outlandish and cartoony unrealistic. Yes this is a fantasy game, but one of the key strengths ESO has over other alternatives is the realistic high quality aesthetics, and the absense of ridiculous cartoony aesthetics. Skins in particular have gotten stupid. I accept this is just my personal opinion, its just how I feel.

I certainly do not agree with the criticism of "skirt-looking leg motifs", I love them and there are no where near enough available in game! Though when I think back 4+ years, that issue really was extreme, it was mostly trouser style leg motifs and very few viable "skirt-like" options. I have 18 characters, off the top of my head I think only 2 or 3 are not in some form of skirt, be it short or long.

Septimus_Magna

I think there are many great motifs nowadays, I remember having to craft a new set if you wanted to change your look.

My main issue is with the dye system, often I feel like I dont have any control over what color actually appears. This is really annoying when you want to combine different motifs. For example, on one piece Daedric Red turns out mat dark red, on another piece its shiny bright red which ruins the chance to match pieces.

It would be awesome if we could have an option to apply a surface texture (shiny, mat, weathered etc) besides the color.

GalexPK

I would love an option to get rid of the tassets from chest, and shoulders

luizpaulom17

ZOS cant even make mounts to look unique and cool lol... most of the clown store mounts are recolors of the same mounts they made 5 years ago... Its hard and expensive to look good on this game, no wonder most people end up using costumes and hats... Also, costumes give them more money!

Parasaurolophus

Most staves have recently looked something like this. Please make more varied staves.

max_only

What is that?

CynicK

I think that the problem is that there is more than 70 and a sword keeps being an edged long stick, there are some that are cool, some bows look a bit like those modern day bows and well as a crafter I would say that there is a lack of nice legs for jerkins I mean there is the jerkin and then there is a lot of light pants that are supposed to not be seen and be under the long robe. I miss how cool is daedric style or glass in skyrim and here is true that the motifs don't look so good but there are some that are very nice.
Well it is difficult to do something beautiful with a jerkin and breeches.
I mean it is the details, welkynar chest for example, the feathers, you cannot change the color of the feathers at the outfit station and they look like they were taken from a harpy instead of a gryphon, many have this like if they were a little cheap.

Ozby

My complaints would be, get rid of hip flaps, let us hide shoulders and more dye channels please.

AcadianPaladin

I join those who, as a mage, hate crotch flaps, butt flaps, hip flaps and shoulder flappers. Despite all the new motifs, there is almost no relief for mages.

More flapperless chests for mages and the ability to hide any armor pieces would help a lot. Absent the ability to hide armor slots, at least make some designs that are extremely unobtrusive. Like shoulders that are simple, slender armbands. And bracelet hands pieces that don't clip with long sleeves like the ones we have now do.