Having double dragon break per day event doesn't mean that we should have as much retcons.dcam86b14_ESO wrote: »Remember the Elder Scrolls allow multiple timelines and events to take place. ANYTHING is possible.
cyclonus11 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Er, Skyrim's dialogue heavily hints that Serana was entombed during the 1st Era, prior to the formation of an Empire in Cyrodiil.
So it might have the Volkihar, but Serana seems unlikely.
From Wiki...Her year of birth is unknown, but she was originally locked away in the mid-late Second Era, in between the rule of the Reman and Septim Empires
SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »Vamp might be the focus of one of the DLC's (like Wolfhunter was for furries), but I'm about 99% sure it won't be a Chapter-long theme the way dragons were for Elsweyr.
SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »Vamp might be the focus of one of the DLC's (like Wolfhunter was for furries), but I'm about 99% sure it won't be a Chapter-long theme the way dragons were for Elsweyr.
FlipFlopFrog wrote: »If these rumours are true then I'm pretty hyped for a dawnguard vs vampire type expac. Could be good fun. I remember a while ago the was that strange 'vampire lord' bug, maybe we'll get a vampire lord skill line?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njEwh9wxOGA
Skip to 3:07 for the glitch.
My Bosmers and Argonian all agree with this assessment.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »I’m sure they will twist things around to fit their narrative but I don’t think they really care about the lore anyways.
FlipFlopFrog wrote: »If these rumours are true then I'm pretty hyped for a dawnguard vs vampire type expac. Could be good fun. I remember a while ago the was that strange 'vampire lord' bug, maybe we'll get a vampire lord skill line?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njEwh9wxOGA
Skip to 3:07 for the glitch.
The intention was that Serana went to sleep in the late second era, between the Reman and Septim empires. Her initial dialogue is just her surprise that there’s an Empire in Cyrodiil, as there hadn't been when she went to sleep.
We have an age of strife, dragons have returned (although not to the realm of men... yet) so this makes the whole situation a lot more urgent for Valerica and Serana to keep it all hidden from Harkon. Even though Dexion hasn't read the scroll yet, we must assume Harkon learned of this prophecy somehow through another way. This doesn't break canon yet either as a professional Moth Priest would still be required to use the Elder Scroll to locate the bow and/or confirm that the prophecy is actually true and not just a rumour.Dexion Evicus wrote:"Among the night's children, a dread lord will rise. In an age of strife, when dragons return to the realm of men, darkness will mingle with light and the night and day will be as one."
madeeh91rwb17_ESO wrote: »What we know:
- Harkon was supposed to be a King of Haafingar region during or after the events of ESO.
- NPC dialogue hints Solitude as the destination.(For new chapter)
- ZOS loves milking nostalgia.
Therefore: Next chapter involves Molag Bal's Bussiness with Harkon, and Serana confirmed.
This topic again? Alright...
Yes, there is indeed some lore mess around.All of this points towards Serana being entombed prior to the 2nd era.
- Even during ESO's time and all of the second era, the Empire was never forgotten. The whole reason for the constant war is that everyone wants to be the next Empire.
- Also Serana is surprised that the Dwarven cities are so "run down" as if she doesn't know the Dwemer disappeared, which suggested a date of being entombed prior to 1E 700.
HOWEVER there is also plenty evidence supporting that Serana is actually from the 2nd era.Taking all of that into account, I think the 2nd Era, although late 2nd Era would be the most sensical for her entombment, as there hadn't been an Empire in Cyrodiil for a few hundred years at that point. Her surprise about the Dwemer cities being "run down" could also stem from an assumption of hers that Nords would move in and keep the empty cities running.
- Such as she never mentions any form of surprise to seeing the Chimer turned into grey-skinned Dunmer.
- Or Redguards don't weird her out at all, as they arrived at least a hundred years after her lastest possible entombment in the 1st era.
- Furthermore, author Matt "GStaff" Grandstaff said the following on the question of when she was entombed.
The intention was that Serana went to sleep in the late second era, between the Reman and Septim empires. Her initial dialogue is just her surprise that there’s an Empire in Cyrodiil, as there hadn't been when she went to sleep.- Also, the 1st Era obviously had an Empire in Cyrodiil too, the Alessian Empire which is already a human Empire.
Additionally and on an unrelated note, with the way the prophecy of the Tyranny of the Sun is worded, you could see how someone (Harkon) could get very excited over it...We have an age of strife, dragons have returned (although not to the realm of men... yet) so this makes the whole situation a lot more urgent for Valerica and Serana to keep it all hidden from Harkon. Even though Dexion hasn't read the scroll yet, we must assume Harkon learned of this prophecy somehow through another way. This doesn't break canon yet either as a professional Moth Priest would still be required to use the Elder Scroll to locate the bow and/or confirm that the prophecy is actually true and not just a rumour.Dexion Evicus wrote:"Among the night's children, a dread lord will rise. In an age of strife, when dragons return to the realm of men, darkness will mingle with light and the night and day will be as one."
TL;DR Bethesda made some continuity errors which ZOS can now use to give us more content involving fan favorite characters and nostalgia bait while fixing the timeline in the process through retcons.
RefLiberty wrote: »Not sure will be, but one thing I know for certain, and that it will cost me £59.99 for South part of map and month later £39.99 for North part of map.
madeeh91rwb17_ESO wrote: »What we know:
- Harkon was supposed to be a King of Haafingar region during or after the events of ESO.
- NPC dialogue hints Solitude as the destination.(For new chapter)
- ZOS loves milking nostalgia.
Therefore: Next chapter involves Molag Bal's Bussiness with Harkon, and Serana confirmed.
Hallothiel wrote: »Why are people so sure it is going to be vampires?
(Personally I really really hope it isn’t)
Hallothiel wrote: »Why are people so sure it is going to be vampires?
(Personally I really really hope it isn’t)
Why ?
madeeh91rwb17_ESO wrote: »What we know:
- Harkon was supposed to be a King of Haafingar region during or after the events of ESO.
- NPC dialogue hints Solitude as the destination.(For new chapter)
- ZOS loves milking nostalgia.
Therefore: Next chapter involves Molag Bal's Bussiness with Harkon, and Serana confirmed.
madeeh91rwb17_ESO wrote: »What we know:
- Harkon was supposed to be a King of Haafingar region during or after the events of ESO.
- NPC dialogue hints Solitude as the destination.(For new chapter)
- ZOS loves milking nostalgia.
Therefore: Next chapter involves Molag Bal's Bussiness with Harkon, and Serana confirmed.
you dont know that, you're assuming things.
havent played Skyrim for years. who's Harkon/Serana?